How England Won the Ashes in Australia - 2010/11
Discussion
webbyst said:
Where did Doug the Rug get his hair from ?
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Well, well, well.
Amazing how mouthy you poms get once you get a few South Africans in your team.
Still, if my country had been on the receiving end of 15 years of domination I'd probably make hay while the sun shines too.
I think it will be much closer than the last time when we won 5 and you won none.
Surprised Collingwood is still in the side. He's a bit of a backward thinking selection.
Your bowling attack looks handy - but won't be as tasty as they are in the overcast, swinging conditions they feast on here in the UK.
The winning, aggressive attitude of your South Africans has rubbed off on the rest of the team - they seem to have a belief previous sides never had.
I think Australia's bowling attack, while not in the same league as yesteryear will be more than capable of taking 20 wickets in a match. I expect they will bowl better at home than they did on tour last year.
I think the success of your side will hinge on whether your players can time their contributions like they did in the last series. Headingley was the only test where nobody chipped it. In every other test you were carried by an extroadinary performance - Broad at the Oval, for example.
I hope it is closer than when we whitewashed you last time - bragging rights for a 5-0 are great, but can ruin a series' drama. I am predicting a comfortable 3-1 to the Aussies.
Amazing how mouthy you poms get once you get a few South Africans in your team.
Still, if my country had been on the receiving end of 15 years of domination I'd probably make hay while the sun shines too.
I think it will be much closer than the last time when we won 5 and you won none.
Surprised Collingwood is still in the side. He's a bit of a backward thinking selection.
Your bowling attack looks handy - but won't be as tasty as they are in the overcast, swinging conditions they feast on here in the UK.
The winning, aggressive attitude of your South Africans has rubbed off on the rest of the team - they seem to have a belief previous sides never had.
I think Australia's bowling attack, while not in the same league as yesteryear will be more than capable of taking 20 wickets in a match. I expect they will bowl better at home than they did on tour last year.
I think the success of your side will hinge on whether your players can time their contributions like they did in the last series. Headingley was the only test where nobody chipped it. In every other test you were carried by an extroadinary performance - Broad at the Oval, for example.
I hope it is closer than when we whitewashed you last time - bragging rights for a 5-0 are great, but can ruin a series' drama. I am predicting a comfortable 3-1 to the Aussies.
DJC, it's a puzzle isn't it - why are some colonists so touchy about other colonists? Do they feel jilted in some way perhaps? Maybe we should introduce a fast track scheme for Australians to qualify for the English cricket team - might be the best way for some of them see success over the next few years....
They also don't half get their knickers in a twist about immigration if you believe what you read in the papers. Given that, it's curious why we aren't seeing many indigenous Australians playing with the red ball. You'd think that might be really important to them given how much they bleat about other sides ethnicity.
Probably just simple old insecurity. Similar to the yanks in so many ways.
They also don't half get their knickers in a twist about immigration if you believe what you read in the papers. Given that, it's curious why we aren't seeing many indigenous Australians playing with the red ball. You'd think that might be really important to them given how much they bleat about other sides ethnicity.
Probably just simple old insecurity. Similar to the yanks in so many ways.
Good point Leithen. All the real Australians (they are the darker looking ones) are in prison in Queensland or drunk in a park somewhere.
This obsessive Australian focus on sport all stems back from the grubby colonials wanting to rid themselves of their feelings of inferiority. They thought (wrongly of course) that by being good at sport they could depict themselves as a super new race of people and not just as convicts and ne'er do wells that couldn't make it back in Great Britain.
The spent all their time and money building sport academies and cricket ovals and getting sun tans at the expense of their economy/culture/whatever just to have bragging rights over Great Britain.
You are right though, like the Saffers have, it's about time the Australians let some proper Australians play cricket.
This obsessive Australian focus on sport all stems back from the grubby colonials wanting to rid themselves of their feelings of inferiority. They thought (wrongly of course) that by being good at sport they could depict themselves as a super new race of people and not just as convicts and ne'er do wells that couldn't make it back in Great Britain.
The spent all their time and money building sport academies and cricket ovals and getting sun tans at the expense of their economy/culture/whatever just to have bragging rights over Great Britain.
You are right though, like the Saffers have, it's about time the Australians let some proper Australians play cricket.
el stovey said:
Good point Leithen. All the real Australians (they are the darker looking ones) are in prison in Queensland or drunk in a park somewhere.
This obsessive Australian focus on sport all stems back from the grubby colonials wanting to rid themselves of their feelings of inferiority. They thought (wrongly of course) that by being good at sport they could depict themselves as a super new race of people and not just as convicts and ne'er do wells that couldn't make it back in Great Britain.
The spent all their time and money building sport academies and cricket ovals and getting sun tans at the expense of their economy/culture/whatever just to have bragging rights over Great Britain.
You are right though, like the Saffers have, it's about time the Australians let some proper Australians play cricket.
The chucked the only decent one they had out of the team for being too pissed all the time.This obsessive Australian focus on sport all stems back from the grubby colonials wanting to rid themselves of their feelings of inferiority. They thought (wrongly of course) that by being good at sport they could depict themselves as a super new race of people and not just as convicts and ne'er do wells that couldn't make it back in Great Britain.
The spent all their time and money building sport academies and cricket ovals and getting sun tans at the expense of their economy/culture/whatever just to have bragging rights over Great Britain.
You are right though, like the Saffers have, it's about time the Australians let some proper Australians play cricket.
Oh wait, that was the half West Indian Andrew Symonds.
The strange thing is, the first Australian team to tour England was made up of entirely indigenous Australians.
Leithen said:
The strange thing is, the first Australian team to tour England was made up of entirely indigenous Australians.
That's the way it should be really. We ought to be playing proper Australians not all these imports.johnfm said:
I think it will be a reverse of the last time when we won 5 and you won none.
Your bowling attack looks handy - I really fear that Steven Finn will tear us apart.
I think Australia's bowling attack, is no longer capable compared to the glory days. We even asked Warne to come back for the series.
I hope it is closer than when we got beat last time - but can ruin a series' drama. I am predicting a comfortable 3-1 to England in our own backyard !.
EFAYour bowling attack looks handy - I really fear that Steven Finn will tear us apart.
I think Australia's bowling attack, is no longer capable compared to the glory days. We even asked Warne to come back for the series.
I hope it is closer than when we got beat last time - but can ruin a series' drama. I am predicting a comfortable 3-1 to England in our own backyard !.
Reckon this will be a close series. You aussies are not the force you were, so get used to it. We have a much more balanced side and are much stronger as a unit. So all in all this should be close and I would not be surprised if we come away with the urn. Now that would make my xmas. 
PS give over b
hin' about the saffers it's boring
PS give over b
hin' about the saffers it's boring To be quite honest I won't be that unhappy to see Australia lose, if it means the end of Ponting.
There have been too many people getting picked on reputations, as I said after the end of the Ashes series in 2009, I would dump Nielsen (coach) and Ponting. Send Hussey, Clarke and North back to the Sheffield Shield to get some form. Clarke is being touted as a future captain, he doesn't deserve to be in the side on his current form, imo.
Once again North showed his class in the recent test in India, 0 and 10 wasn't it? He got a hundred in the warm up game and apparently is safe for the second test.
Hussey was really unlucky in the second innings, he got an absolute shocker of a decision.
Some of these guys make lots of runs in soft situations, but honestly I don't think they can cut it when the pressure is really on.
England won't have it all their own way though, there are still some good cricketers out there, one to watch in particular is Callum Ferguson.
I've always said it is harder to get out of the Australian team than it is to get into it.
There have been too many people getting picked on reputations, as I said after the end of the Ashes series in 2009, I would dump Nielsen (coach) and Ponting. Send Hussey, Clarke and North back to the Sheffield Shield to get some form. Clarke is being touted as a future captain, he doesn't deserve to be in the side on his current form, imo.
Once again North showed his class in the recent test in India, 0 and 10 wasn't it? He got a hundred in the warm up game and apparently is safe for the second test.
Hussey was really unlucky in the second innings, he got an absolute shocker of a decision.
Some of these guys make lots of runs in soft situations, but honestly I don't think they can cut it when the pressure is really on.
England won't have it all their own way though, there are still some good cricketers out there, one to watch in particular is Callum Ferguson.
I've always said it is harder to get out of the Australian team than it is to get into it.
Oh it will be a close contest I think because simply put neither side has a fully balanced and in form team. England are the marginally stronger outfit, but winning in Aus is a notoriously hard ask even when against a mediocre team. If and its a big if, the English bowlers can produce performances on simple hard, fast non swinging tracks then the contest will be much more heavily weighted towards England.
Looking forward to it.
Looking forward to it.
The last time England won an ashes series in Australia was in 1986-7. The score in the last ashes series in Australia ?
I think it would be a close in England, I hope I'm wrong but I can't see England winning a series in Australia yet. This is certainly England's best chance in years though.
I think it would be a close in England, I hope I'm wrong but I can't see England winning a series in Australia yet. This is certainly England's best chance in years though.
Anyone else think the upcoming Ashes series is going to be a bit of a disappointment?
I don't see Anderson and co doing so well with the Kookaburra ball in Aussie conditions and the Australian attack looks piss poor too.
Think we'll see lots of high scores and more draws than usual. Both sides will resort to bowling a foot outside off stump with a 7-2 field and bore us to death (much like what the Indian captain has done in the current series).
I don't see Anderson and co doing so well with the Kookaburra ball in Aussie conditions and the Australian attack looks piss poor too.
Think we'll see lots of high scores and more draws than usual. Both sides will resort to bowling a foot outside off stump with a 7-2 field and bore us to death (much like what the Indian captain has done in the current series).
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