78th Members Meeting
Discussion
ukaskew said:
Especially so as they are happy to take ticket money from Fellows but apparently not for us to discuss things?!
Diverging from the original thread title, but...I can sort of see it both ways, I can't see why Fellows (AKA Associates) shouldn't have access to Facebook - hardly a benefit as far as I can see.
The original mail said it was a closed GRRC group - and you needed your membership to join. If Fellows have a membership number then it was implied that they could join... I believe it has been changed later.
However, no downer on Fellows, but there has been a constant erosion of 'benefits' of being a member. Members at several hundred pounds per annum seem to get little different than Fellows at £39. That is more of a problem for Members than Fellows.
Good luck for what Fellows get, but members do seem to take more of a hammering.
If 1000 members got fed up and left, there would be more than 1000 in the Fellowship wanting to take their place. Goodwood can't lose.
No ideas for a name said:
I can sort of see it both ways, I can't see why Fellows (AKA Associates) shouldn't have access to Facebook - hardly a benefit as far as I can see.
I perhaps wrongly assumed there was info re: 78MM on some closed group. They have form in that area, on the snowy year they were publishing information directly on the Member forum (and nowhere else), us lowly Fellows had to rely on people re-posting what was kinda critical information here on PH.
RichB said:
ecsrobin said:
tonymor said:
Not M M but noting revival tickets are on sale so confidence or hope is on the horizon?
They just never took them off sale. The time and effort that needs to go in to the planning, the invites for the teams and drivers etc., just can't happen without them having certainty that it will allowed to take place.
I don't have tickets, nor a hotel booked - all of which I would normally have by now.
I also probably don't have the cash to invest in it right now either. I suspect quite a few attendees won't be having a thousand pounds spare to blow on a weekend.
A bit disapointing, but then again it is only a bit of motor sport - there are more important things going on in the world.
I posted before about last years event feeling a bit flat - maybe a year off for the event will actually turn out to be a useful 'reset'.
We then move on to the 'problem' that Members have spent at least £240 on basically a badge and a yearbook. Even if you are local, I guess The Kennels is shutdown so you can't even have that benefit. If this was just a 'club' then I don't actually mind them keeping my £240 if it helps keep the events running in to the future even though I get nothing this year... however, it is a multi-million pound business which makes things slightly different.
I hope Goodwood will recognise this and do something for us next year.
No ideas for a name said:
I have pretty well resigned myself to the likelyhood that there won't be anything going on at Goodwood this year.
The time and effort that needs to go in to the planning, the invites for the teams and drivers etc., just can't happen without them having certainty that it will allowed to take place.
I don't have tickets, nor a hotel booked - all of which I would normally have by now.
I also probably don't have the cash to invest in it right now either. I suspect quite a few attendees won't be having a thousand pounds spare to blow on a weekend.
A bit disapointing, but then again it is only a bit of motor sport - there are more important things going on in the world.
I posted before about last years event feeling a bit flat - maybe a year off for the event will actually turn out to be a useful 'reset'.
We then move on to the 'problem' that Members have spent at least £240 on basically a badge and a yearbook. Even if you are local, I guess The Kennels is shutdown so you can't even have that benefit. If this was just a 'club' then I don't actually mind them keeping my £240 if it helps keep the events running in to the future even though I get nothing this year... however, it is a multi-million pound business which makes things slightly different.
I hope Goodwood will recognise this and do something for us next year.
Excellent post, you make a very good point. I was a late starter regarding the MM but have been to the last 3 but have managed to attend every Revival since it started ,holidays,wedding invites,birthdays in fact any family or friends celebrations mentioned around the beginning or middle of September made me a little nervous, Somehow i've managed to duck and dive all these years and keeping her indoors happy with a bribe or two,weekend away,new wardrobe care of a trip to London ect. Unfortunately my luck run out last year involving a wedding abroad , living quite local to Goodwood i couldn't even do my usual trick and turn up late for said occasions. This was my life long friend not just my wife i would be upsetting.So for the first time in 21 years i missed the Rivival, so as you said by not attending last year this coming one should be more enjoyable especially as there was no MM this year. Lets hope the event will take place but with more important things going on in the world i'm sure we can wait another year . The time and effort that needs to go in to the planning, the invites for the teams and drivers etc., just can't happen without them having certainty that it will allowed to take place.
I don't have tickets, nor a hotel booked - all of which I would normally have by now.
I also probably don't have the cash to invest in it right now either. I suspect quite a few attendees won't be having a thousand pounds spare to blow on a weekend.
A bit disapointing, but then again it is only a bit of motor sport - there are more important things going on in the world.
I posted before about last years event feeling a bit flat - maybe a year off for the event will actually turn out to be a useful 'reset'.
We then move on to the 'problem' that Members have spent at least £240 on basically a badge and a yearbook. Even if you are local, I guess The Kennels is shutdown so you can't even have that benefit. If this was just a 'club' then I don't actually mind them keeping my £240 if it helps keep the events running in to the future even though I get nothing this year... however, it is a multi-million pound business which makes things slightly different.
I hope Goodwood will recognise this and do something for us next year.
ukaskew said:
Officially postponed until April 10/11 2021 now, that's 'cancelled' in any other language but there you go!
Tickets automatically rolled over, and as always date is TBC, presumably dependent on motorsport schedule for 2021.
Not surprised, but at least we have clarity.Tickets automatically rolled over, and as always date is TBC, presumably dependent on motorsport schedule for 2021.
It is still the 78th Members' Meeting even though it misses a year.
I really wouldn't bank on that date not moving. As you say stated as "provisional".
I expect similar announcements for FoS and Revival.
Adrian250 said:
Hoping festival of speed is announced for early september
Can't see it happening this year...a) they'd need to be well into planning now with no guarentee it can go ahead
b) we could have a packed motorsport schedule by then, which would mean no current F1 support amongst many others.
c) lots of cars and drivers from abroad typically, that feels very unlikely to be an option this year.
d) marketing budgets are being slashed so I can't imagine a large manufacturer presence, particularly as very few people will be buying cars for a while.
To be honest it sounds like the sort of back to basics hill climb event I'd love, but that's not really the way Goodwood do things.
No ideas for a name said:
ukaskew said:
Officially postponed until April 10/11 2021 now, that's 'cancelled' in any other language but there you go!
Tickets automatically rolled over, and as always date is TBC, presumably dependent on motorsport schedule for 2021.
Not surprised, but at least we have clarity.Tickets automatically rolled over, and as always date is TBC, presumably dependent on motorsport schedule for 2021.
It is still the 78th Members' Meeting even though it misses a year.
I really wouldn't bank on that date not moving. As you say stated as "provisional".
I expect similar announcements for FoS and Revival.
anyone heard anything about this discontinuity ?
Roundm said:
spotted this - which raises a question, if this is the 78MM (for which I have tickets) what happens to the GRRC membership itself? MM is meant to be a Members Meeting - which implies membership, but I now have tickets (along with many other people of course!) for a restricted access event on a date that I may not be a member for !
anyone heard anything about this discontinuity ?
That's not unique to 78MM though, that is true every year. MM ticket sales start in August. If you buy tickets and then decide not to renew your membership I suppose they could ask for them back or cancel them, but I doubt very much if they do. You don't, of course, have to be a member to attend. Members can buy as many tickets as they like for their non-member friends.anyone heard anything about this discontinuity ?
Incidentally, it occurred to me the other day that next year's Members Meeting is already a sell-out. Assuming it does go ahead as scheduled I think those of us with tickets could have some very valuable property!
Edited by Ian Wegg on Friday 5th June 18:38
Roundm said:
spotted this - which raises a question, if this is the 78MM (for which I have tickets) what happens to the GRRC membership itself? MM is meant to be a Members Meeting - which implies membership, but I now have tickets (along with many other people of course!) for a restricted access event on a date that I may not be a member for !
anyone heard anything about this discontinuity ?
It's a bit cheeky but as literally the only benefit I use from my Fellowship is to buy MM tickets I make sure I buy my membership at a time that will cover two years worth of tickets. Therefore, at every other MM I'm no longer a member. I can't imagine for a second anyone would care though, as it's otherwise easy enough for a non-member to get a ticket via a member or on the secondary market (including PH) without paying for a Fellowship, at least they are getting an extra £45 or whatever from me every 2 years!anyone heard anything about this discontinuity ?
i.e. buy Fellowship in January 2019, order ticket for 2019 MM, then in January 2020 shortly before my membership runs out, buy a ticket for 2020 MM. I can then cancel for an entire year and start again the next year.
Obviously that's not quite worked out this year as I'll only get one ticket out of a year, but a minor inconvenience in the grand scheme of things.
Edited by ukaskew on Wednesday 10th June 14:35
Has anyone actually managed to get any money back from Goodwood? They sent me a boilerplate email a month ago saying they are really busy so processing refunds will take a while, and haven’t responded to anything since. Interestingly, however, Goodwood horse racing is back on, so they have enough staff at Goodwood to organise that, and to take my money, but not to give it back.
I’ve been a member for 20 years, and absolutely love the GRRC, and as I only live about 7 miles from Goodwood I go there a lot, but they have not handled this well. It was very clear the MM was going to be cancelled, and saying it has been “reschedule” to next year is just a cynical way of delaying refunds. Not happy with how the GRRC have handled this.
I’ve been a member for 20 years, and absolutely love the GRRC, and as I only live about 7 miles from Goodwood I go there a lot, but they have not handled this well. It was very clear the MM was going to be cancelled, and saying it has been “reschedule” to next year is just a cynical way of delaying refunds. Not happy with how the GRRC have handled this.
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