FoS 2020

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ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Sunday 23rd May 2021
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Yes got my ticket the other day too. I noticed they were still fishing for exhibitors a while back, I think this years event will - understandably - feel very different and quite low key compared to a normal year.

Fortunately we have have huge depth of cars and drivers right here in the UK, but I'm assuming we will have very little / nothing in terms of foreign support.

nordboy

1,463 posts

50 months

Sunday 23rd May 2021
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ch37 said:
Yes got my ticket the other day too. I noticed they were still fishing for exhibitors a while back, I think this years event will - understandably - feel very different and quite low key compared to a normal year.

Fortunately we have have huge depth of cars and drivers right here in the UK, but I'm assuming we will have very little / nothing in terms of foreign support.
I'm really hoping there's going to be enough going on to keep us entertained for four days!!!!

MarkJames1

26 posts

35 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Hi just tried to buy 2 4 day passes but seems sold out.

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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MarkJames1 said:
Hi just tried to buy 2 4 day passes but seems sold out.
Saturday tickets have been sold out for a while so the only way you could do it is to buy 3 individual tickets excluding the Saturday.

RichB

51,571 posts

284 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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It's not surprising it's 'sold out' - ticket holders from last year will have tickets rolled over and I assume with distancing measures in place they want fewer people. I'm looking forward to the GRRC day on Thursday.

ecsrobin

17,118 posts

165 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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RichB said:
It's not surprising it's 'sold out' - ticket holders from last year will have tickets rolled over and I assume with distancing measures in place they want fewer people. I'm looking forward to the GRRC day on Thursday.
Although the Saturday generally is sold out by April/May.

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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I know they released another round of tickets a while back but I thought with pent-up demand and rolled over tickets this would be crazy popular this year, strange, I guess not everyone is confident it will go ahead (or wants to mingle with thousands). I know they usually get a fair few overseas spectators as well which I guess won't really be happening either.

Weekend tickets for the Revival still available too.

Dr Interceptor

7,786 posts

196 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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I'm not surprised its not a total sell out... My tickets will be rolled over from last year, but I'm in two minds about going.

I suspect a lot of people have written off entirely the idea of attending concerts / festivals / events / overseas holidays in their minds this year.

We have a retail shop, and a large proportion of our customer base are (relatively) well off people aged 55+. Many of them, particularly when you get to 65+ still don't want to step foot in the shop, even though we are operating a one at a time basis.

mk1coopers

1,205 posts

152 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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Just going to the Thursday this year as it should be quieter, MM and Revival booked for one day of each only

Lynchie999

3,422 posts

153 months

Tuesday 25th May 2021
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seen on the instagram "build up" has started today!


Ian Wegg

652 posts

140 months

Wednesday 26th May 2021
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ch37 said:
Weekend tickets for the Revival still available too.
They were yesterday but Saturday, and therefore weekend, tickets sold out this morning.

Saturday tickets for the last two Revivals sold out in May so I think the situation is pretty normal.

dogbucket

1,204 posts

201 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Is FOS reliant on the 21 June easing, or can it proceed under current restrictions?

Jules Sunley

3,933 posts

93 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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My understanding is it's fine now, with outdoor events just limited to numbers the location can cope with and maintain social distancing and I'm sure the said they had capped the number of tickets compared to previous years.

I hope so anyway, booked for the Saturday!

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Jules Sunley said:
My understanding is it's fine now, with outdoor events just limited to numbers the location can cope with and maintain social distancing and I'm sure the said they had capped the number of tickets compared to previous years.
The current rule is 4000 people unless it's a specifically designated test event, so there is no way FoS can practically go ahead if the June 21st lift of restrictions does not happen before July 8th, I would imagine Goodwood have sold 8-10 times more tickets than that per day (they did have a cap on tickets, but lifted it further a while back).

There is a separate rule that can be employed for mixed seating/standing events, but the specific rules for that are no good for an open event like FoS (i.e. seated and standing spectators not mixing) and it wouldn't appear to offer any increase in capacity anyway.


Edited by ch37 on Friday 28th May 10:02

Ian Wegg

652 posts

140 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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FoS is not a sporting "stadium" event of any kind so the 4000 rule doesn't, and never has, applied.

Goodwood has to comply with any measures required by the local authority with whom, I am quite sure, they are in regular discussions.

Jules Sunley

3,933 posts

93 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Ian Wegg said:
FoS is not a sporting "stadium" event of any kind so the 4000 rule doesn't, and never has, applied.

Goodwood has to comply with any measures required by the local authority with whom, I am quite sure, they are in regular discussions.
This is my understanding too.

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Ian Wegg said:
FoS is not a sporting "stadium" event of any kind so the 4000 rule doesn't, and never has, applied.

Goodwood has to comply with any measures required by the local authority with whom, I am quite sure, they are in regular discussions.
The 4000 limit covers everything from air shows to exhibitions to circuses to sporting events. I'm not sure how it wouldn't fall under those rules. Which rules would they otherwise be following? As far as I'm aware FoS runs under a typical Motorsport UK permit in much the same way that a club event at Thruxton would have, for example.

Hopefully a moot point as long as the restrictions lift before July 8th, anyway.


Edited by ch37 on Friday 28th May 11:58

Jules Sunley

3,933 posts

93 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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From the gov.uk site (Step 2 being 12th April onwards): -

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronav...

Events that are able to commence from Step 2 are not subject to a capacity cap on attendees. However, we expect these events to have fewer than 4,000 attendees per day. Organisers of events that are likely to have more than 4,000 attendees should notify the local authority and should only take place if the event organisers can assure the local authority that attendees will be dispersed across a sufficiently large geographic area or will be sufficiently distributed throughout the day, so as to mitigate the risk of crowding at the venue (including entry and exit points; toilet facilities; and food and drink facilities) and on public transport. Event organisers should follow COVID-secure guidance and must adhere to legal requirements.



I expect Goodwood as a huge site will be able to 'assure the local authority that attendees will be dispersed across a sufficiently large geographic area or will be sufficiently distributed throughout the day, so as to mitigate the risk of crowding at the venue ' and will have discussed this already with them.

ch37

10,642 posts

221 months

Friday 28th May 2021
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Jules Sunley said:
From the gov.uk site (Step 2 being 12th April onwards): -

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronav...

I expect Goodwood as a huge site will be able to 'assure the local authority that attendees will be dispersed across a sufficiently large geographic area or will be sufficiently distributed throughout the day, so as to mitigate the risk of crowding at the venue ' and will have discussed this already with them.
Also, only if:

"b) Attendees are expected to arrive and leave the event in a staggered manner throughout the day

c) It does not involve attendees converging on and congregating in a site for a specific discrete performance or activity, such as a theatre or music performance"

There is absolutely nothing that suggests to me FoS could run under that guidance, particularly knowing the hoops other motorsport venues are having to jump through to run events right now with less than 1/10th of the attendance of a day at FoS (4000 cap, segregation of competitors and spectators etc).

Unless Goodwood have capped each day drastically below their typical limit, no authority is going to accept that they can mitigate crowding.

Maximus_Meridius101

1,222 posts

37 months

Monday 31st May 2021
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ch37 said:
Also, only if:

"b) Attendees are expected to arrive and leave the event in a staggered manner throughout the day

c) It does not involve attendees converging on and congregating in a site for a specific discrete performance or activity, such as a theatre or music performance"

There is absolutely nothing that suggests to me FoS could run under that guidance, particularly knowing the hoops other motorsport venues are having to jump through to run events right now with less than 1/10th of the attendance of a day at FoS (4000 cap, segregation of competitors and spectators etc).

Unless Goodwood have capped each day drastically below their typical limit, no authority is going to accept that they can mitigate crowding.
I’m sure the metaphorical fingers are poised over the metaphorical kill switch, and I for one, would not want to be the one to have to make the call.