Revival 2025

[RichB]

andyj007 said:

jimmsy said:

I'm certain that previous years there was more racing than this year...although that might just be bad memory.

no your right,, im sure too will have to dig an old programme out , not two hour blank no races where they have procession or something .. we had that ve day thing. why? , alfa romeo , jim clark this year .. the peddle car always gets in the way of racing, especially if you are out the back circuit ...

There were 16 races over the weekend. In 2000 there were 14 races. We've been to every Revival bar the first in '98 (26 times with the gap fr covid year) so I have all the race cards going back.
What has changed the feel is i) no air displays at lunchtime (or at all during the day) so now there's a long break with no action ii) the pedal cars break up the action and are only visible from the main straight and iii) there is a much longer gap between the motor bikes at around 12:30 and the RAC TT at 2:30 meaning 2 hours with nothing happening. I am sure this is to encourage people to visit the traders. As people have said it's moving the emphasis away from motor racing.

Edited by RichB on Tuesday 16th September 12:42

[Inspire]

RichB said:

andyj007 said:

jimmsy said:

I'm certain that previous years there was more racing than this year...although that might just be bad memory.

no your right,, im sure too will have to dig an old programme out , not two hour blank no races where they have procession or something .. we had that ve day thing. why? , alfa romeo , jim clark this year .. the peddle car always gets in the way of racing, especially if you are out the back circuit ...

There were 16 races over the weekend. In 2000 there were 14 races. We've been to every Revival bar the first in '98 (26 times with the gap fr covid year) so I have all the race cards going back.
What has changed the feel is i) no air displays at lunchtime (or at all during the day) so now there's a long break with no action ii) the pedal cars break up the action and are only visible from the main straight and iii) there is a much longer gap between the motor bikes at around 12:30 and the RAC TT at 2:30 meaning 2 hours with nothing happening. I am sure this is to encourage people to visit the traders. As people have said it's moving the emphasis away from motor racing.

Edited by RichB on Tuesday 16th September 12:42

The move away from the motor racing is a real shame for me.

[aeropilot]

RichB said:

....... and iii) there is a much longer gap between the motor bikes at around 12:30 and the RAC TT at 2:30 meaning 2 hours with nothing happening. I am sure this is to encourage people to visit the traders.

I suspect, it's more to create a longer lunchtime 'window' between races for the hospitality venues, allowing the wealthy and corporate to nosebag fully without missing any track action while doing so.

[RichB]

aeropilot said:

RichB said:

....... and iii) there is a much longer gap between the motor bikes at around 12:30 and the RAC TT at 2:30 meaning 2 hours with nothing happening. I am sure this is to encourage people to visit the traders.

I suspect, it's more to create a longer lunchtime 'window' between races for the hospitality venues, allowing the wealthy and corporate to nosebag fully without missing any track action while doing so

Quite possibly. Anyway, I noticed tickets are already on sale for members (I assume that's Fellows and Members) and for the first time in over 25 years I've not dived in to book our favourite seats in Chicane Grandstand. I may pick up a day ticket close to the event because there's always people selling them but as we left yesterday I said to my wife we'll give it a miss next year and although that's a bit sad, I'm going to stick to that decision.

Edited by RichB on Tuesday 16th September 14:25

[andyj007]

Sunday is turning into a debacle with just two 4 wheel races between circuit opening and 2pm when the TT kicks off. And don t even get me on to the Settrington Cup. Surely to god that has run its course by now? It s utterly excruciating and just means the Dukes rich friends and their children in Ralph Lauren overalls can indulge themselves for 20 mins in front of the paying public.



1000% agree with this .. 2 races and utter rubbish in between .. if you were out the back you had 2hr 30 almost with no track action .. they settring cup is just a total waste of track time make me cringe to be honest ..just have. aprivate party for your rich buddies and t children dont male the rest of us suffer , the VE celebrations was more waste of track time .. i can put up with the rolling display although at times over the years these are a bit tedious when they dont let the cars go fast... just stock to racing , run races twice use the track for racing .. your charging us enough to get in . thats what we wanna see

[aeropilot]

andyj007 said:

1000% agree with this .. 2 races and utter rubbish in between .. if you were out the back you had 2hr 30 almost with no track action .. they settring cup is just a total waste of track time make me cringe to be honest ..just have. aprivate party for your rich buddies and t children dont male the rest of us suffer , the VE celebrations was more waste of track time .. i can put up with the rolling display although at times over the years these are a bit tedious when they dont let the cars go fast... just stock to racing , run races twice use the track for racing .. your charging us enough to get in . thats what we wanna see

Which is why Sunday's are now no longer a sell out, of the 3 days of Revival, and haven't been for a few years now.

It did seem to be an especially long break between track action this year though.

[732NM]

They'll never allow the value of Austin J40's to crash by ending the race for the kids.

[ettore]

Inspire said:

The move away from the motor racing is a real shame for me.

I don't think there is a move away from the racing - it's still of a quality not seen elsewhere and the paddock remains a fabulous and favourite spot.

There's just a lot more going on elsewhere now. Its very easy to sideline if you want to concentrate on the motoring content but it's also great fun if you have partners/friends that aren't enthusiasts. Like others, I have a day that I go with my wife and whole family where I indulge the wider event and then I have a day with chums where I focus wholly on the bit I love.

People moan about the same stuff every year but i think they're often those that moan anyway. It remains an absolute world class event that we would miss terribly if it didn't happen.There remains no other equivalent, either in club racing or even Laguna Seca/LMC/Monaco etc, all of which I've been to.

The only bit that is materially worse in my view is the aviation content. This used to be fabulous but is of course deeply restricted now - not Goodwood's fault though. Oh, and the weather needs sorting out again.

[RichB]

ettore said:

<clip> People moan about the same stuff every year but i think they're often those that moan anyway. It remains an absolute world class event... etc.

I'm not one to moan, indeed I have been very supportive of Goodwood over the past 26 years but the fact remains the lack of track action and a 2 hour gap on Sunday with nothing going on was not good.

[ettore]

RichB said:

ettore said:

<clip> People moan about the same stuff every year but i think they're often those that moan anyway. It remains an absolute world class event... etc.

I'm not one to moan, indeed I have been very supportive of Goodwood over the past 26 years but the fact remains the lack of track action and a 2 hour gap on Sunday with nothing going on was not good.

..time to look round the paddock.

[nicanary]

ettore said:

RichB said:

ettore said:

<clip> People moan about the same stuff every year but i think they're often those that moan anyway. It remains an absolute world class event... etc.

I'm not one to moan, indeed I have been very supportive of Goodwood over the past 26 years but the fact remains the lack of track action and a 2 hour gap on Sunday with nothing going on was not good.

..time to look round the paddock.

That only works for members.

I occasionally have a gripe about the sameness of it all - every year the same cars, same drivers, same events. I suppose the rich owners/entrants have supported the event for so many years that they now expect to get invited back and would get a bit huffy if His Grace decided otherwise. It's now almost a closed club. I'd love to see the variety of a 50s clubbie with 1172 Formula cars, maybe even some handicap races although I think I'd draw the line at a Ladies Invitation.

Plus why have the organisers never thought to have a John Bolster lookalike patrolling the pitlane with a radio pack on his back and a ginormous microphone ?

[RichB]

ettore said:

RichB said:

ettore said:

<clip> People moan about the same stuff every year but i think they're often those that moan anyway. It remains an absolute world class event... etc.

I'm not one to moan, indeed I have been very supportive of Goodwood over the past 26 years but the fact remains the lack of track action and a 2 hour gap on Sunday with nothing going on was not good.

..time to look round the paddock.

We do that on Friday, that's our walking around day so we see everything. Sat & Sun are for watching the racing.

[timbo999]

nicanary said:

That only works for members.

I occasionally have a gripe about the sameness of it all - every year the same cars, same drivers, same events. I suppose the rich owners/entrants have supported the event for so many years that they now expect to get invited back and would get a bit huffy if His Grace decided otherwise. It's now almost a closed club. I'd love to see the variety of a 50s clubbie with 1172 Formula cars, maybe even some handicap races although I think I'd draw the line at a Ladies Invitation.

Plus why have the organisers never thought to have a John Bolster lookalike patrolling the pitlane with a radio pack on his back and a ginormous microphone ?

Aren't there more paddocks open to all than there are only open to members?

[nicanary]

timbo999 said:

nicanary said:

That only works for members.

I occasionally have a gripe about the sameness of it all - every year the same cars, same drivers, same events. I suppose the rich owners/entrants have supported the event for so many years that they now expect to get invited back and would get a bit huffy if His Grace decided otherwise. It's now almost a closed club. I'd love to see the variety of a 50s clubbie with 1172 Formula cars, maybe even some handicap races although I think I'd draw the line at a Ladies Invitation.

Plus why have the organisers never thought to have a John Bolster lookalike patrolling the pitlane with a radio pack on his back and a ginormous microphone ?

Aren't there more paddocks open to all than there are only open to members?

Yes, I'd forgotten about the overflow paddock round behind the Earls Court building, plus of course you can see into part of the main paddock from the infield path. However, in theory the paddock is members only, and sometimes contains good static exhibits, like the Ecosse transporter, and once the 1920s Delage team which didn't take part in a race or parade. The plebs don't get a chance to see these.

[timbo999]

nicanary said:

Yes, I'd forgotten about the overflow paddock round behind the Earls Court building, plus of course you can see into part of the main paddock from the infield path. However, in theory the paddock is members only, and sometimes contains good static exhibits, like the Ecosse transporter, and once the 1920s Delage team which didn't take part in a race or parade. The plebs don't get a chance to see these.

And the bikes, and the paddock opposite the bikes and the saloon car paddock as well.

[A993LAD]

aeropilot said:

I suspect, it's more to create a longer lunchtime 'window' between races for the hospitality venues, allowing the wealthy and corporate to nosebag fully without missing any track action while doing so.

probably this. a friend of ours was there in a hospitality package deal which included lunch at the Goodwood hotel. she claims that the total time elapsed from leaving the circuit for lunch to getting back on circuit was 4 hours!! apparently the lunch itself was pretty mediocre and they were a bit pissed off to miss so much of the track action.

[Inspire]

RichB said:

ettore said:

<clip> People moan about the same stuff every year but i think they're often those that moan anyway. It remains an absolute world class event... etc.

I'm not one to moan, indeed I have been very supportive of Goodwood over the past 26 years but the fact remains the lack of track action and a 2 hour gap on Sunday with nothing going on was not good.

Hear Hear

[ettore]

RichB said:

We do that on Friday, that's our walking around day so we see everything. Sat & Sun are for watching the racing.

There’s your answer - 2 days not 3!

[ettore]

A993LAD said:

probably this. a friend of ours was there in a hospitality package deal which included lunch at the Goodwood hotel. she claims that the total time elapsed from leaving the circuit for lunch to getting back on circuit was 4 hours!! apparently the lunch itself was pretty mediocre and they were a bit pissed off to miss so much of the track action.

Did they walk?

I have lunch at the kennels so you can get a vintage taxi to the house, the hotel, and the kennels as part of your £. They travel via the house, so miss most of the traffic and it generally takes about 15 mins.

Also, most of the paddock is also open to all, the inner paddock - the restricted part - is actually the smaller part by far.

[Simes205]

nicanary said:

timbo999 said:

nicanary said:

That only works for members.

I occasionally have a gripe about the sameness of it all - every year the same cars, same drivers, same events. I suppose the rich owners/entrants have supported the event for so many years that they now expect to get invited back and would get a bit huffy if His Grace decided otherwise. It's now almost a closed club. I'd love to see the variety of a 50s clubbie with 1172 Formula cars, maybe even some handicap races although I think I'd draw the line at a Ladies Invitation.

Plus why have the organisers never thought to have a John Bolster lookalike patrolling the pitlane with a radio pack on his back and a ginormous microphone ?

Aren't there more paddocks open to all than there are only open to members?

Yes, I'd forgotten about the overflow paddock round behind the Earls Court building, plus of course you can see into part of the main paddock from the infield path. However, in theory the paddock is members only, and sometimes contains good static exhibits, like the Ecosse transporter, and once the 1920s Delage team which didn't take part in a race or parade. The plebs don't get a chance to see these.

We need something for our membership fee!
By Sunday afternoon anyone who was still out there was being let in.