Discussion
andyj007 said:
Sunday is turning into a debacle with just two 4 wheel races between circuit opening and 2pm when the TT kicks off. And don t even get me on to the Settrington Cup. Surely to god that has run its course by now? It s utterly excruciating and just means the Dukes rich friends and their children in Ralph Lauren overalls can indulge themselves for 20 mins in front of the paying public.
1000% agree with this .. 2 races and utter rubbish in between .. if you were out the back you had 2hr 30 almost with no track action .. they settring cup is just a total waste of track time make me cringe to be honest ..just have. aprivate party for your rich buddies and t children dont male the rest of us suffer , the VE celebrations was more waste of track time .. i can put up with the rolling display although at times over the years these are a bit tedious when they dont let the cars go fast... just stock to racing , run races twice use the track for racing .. your charging us enough to get in . thats what we wanna see
Yep I gave up on it not worth the money for the general public, far too little action1000% agree with this .. 2 races and utter rubbish in between .. if you were out the back you had 2hr 30 almost with no track action .. they settring cup is just a total waste of track time make me cringe to be honest ..just have. aprivate party for your rich buddies and t children dont male the rest of us suffer , the VE celebrations was more waste of track time .. i can put up with the rolling display although at times over the years these are a bit tedious when they dont let the cars go fast... just stock to racing , run races twice use the track for racing .. your charging us enough to get in . thats what we wanna see
Inspire said:
The move away from the motor racing is a real shame for me.
I like to have some decent gaps. I skip the bikes and the parades. Friday was tricky, no real lunch break. Sat & Sun were better, time to go back to the car (pre-66) and eat our picnic and have a good look round. In three days we just about managed to see everything.What did annoy me on Sun was bringing forward the start of races. Later I could understand, early not so much. And why does the not-so-big screen opposite the Chicane vanish at 1630h? It did that last year as well.
It's a shame one can't book the Woodcote stand any more, altho we went in there Friday.
I booked the Chicane last night, got good seats - depending on wind direction - so that's all the tickets in the bag.
Except that it isn't as we don't do smartphones. I emaiied the ticket office and am waiting to hear what arrangements there are for those of us who refuse to be a slave to the so-called smartphone.
I'll miss the paper tickets and the little bits of dangly cardboard, they were a retro feature that lent something special to the event although I'm sure they cost a mint to produce.
Hope they do something about the mud (some hope) and the loos for next year.
andylaight said:
wonder if he'll be invited back, David Cooke got caught and it was years before he raced at goodwood again
The Bryant’s have been racing at GW for years. They bring multiple cars to the Revival and MM and are nailed on attendees every year. I would be amazed if they weren’t there for the next MM. Furthermore we don’t know (unless someone can elaborate) as to the nature of the scrutineering ‘failure’.
Mk2Jag said:
andylaight said:
wonder if he'll be invited back, David Cooke got caught and it was years before he raced at goodwood again
The Bryant s have been racing at GW for years. They bring multiple cars to the Revival and MM and are nailed on attendees every year. I would be amazed if they weren t there for the next MM. Furthermore we don t know (unless someone can elaborate) as to the nature of the scrutineering failure .
Mk2Jag said:
andylaight said:
wonder if he'll be invited back, David Cooke got caught and it was years before he raced at goodwood again
The Bryant s have been racing at GW for years. They bring multiple cars to the Revival and MM and are nailed on attendees every year. I would be amazed if they weren t there for the next MM. Furthermore we don t know (unless someone can elaborate) as to the nature of the scrutineering failure .
I was amazed that AMR could get away with racing that '57 Fairlane with the engine it had in it......but I guess having Ford - Experimental written on the front of it made it all OK
Mk2Jag said:
andylaight said:
wonder if he'll be invited back, David Cooke got caught and it was years before he raced at goodwood again
The Bryant s have been racing at GW for years. They bring multiple cars to the Revival and MM and are nailed on attendees every year. I would be amazed if they weren t there for the next MM. Furthermore we don t know (unless someone can elaborate) as to the nature of the scrutineering failure .
aeropilot said:
Given how 'loose' the regs must be for stuff, I'm surprised they bother to exclude anyone, unless 'nudged' by a fellow competitor?
I was amazed that AMR could get away with racing that '57 Fairlane with the engine it had in it......but I guess having Ford - Experimental written on the front of it made it all OK
Remember the Alvis Grey Lady…I was amazed that AMR could get away with racing that '57 Fairlane with the engine it had in it......but I guess having Ford - Experimental written on the front of it made it all OK
Stick Legs said:
I said it before & I ll say it again:
Cheating at history racing is the equivalent of doping for a club bike ride.
No financial gain, risk your reputation for bragging rights.
The most piccolo (as our Italian friends would say) activity I can think of.
The problem there is that when professional car preparers ‘cheat’ (legal exclusion here!), there actually is a financial gain as they attract other owners who think they must be the best.Cheating at history racing is the equivalent of doping for a club bike ride.
No financial gain, risk your reputation for bragging rights.
The most piccolo (as our Italian friends would say) activity I can think of.
aeropilot said:
RichB said:
....... and iii) there is a much longer gap between the motor bikes at around 12:30 and the RAC TT at 2:30 meaning 2 hours with nothing happening. I am sure this is to encourage people to visit the traders.
I suspect, it's more to create a longer lunchtime 'window' between races for the hospitality venues, allowing the wealthy and corporate to nosebag fully without missing any track action while doing so.ChevronB19 said:
Stick Legs said:
I said it before & I ll say it again:
Cheating at history racing is the equivalent of doping for a club bike ride.
No financial gain, risk your reputation for bragging rights.
The most piccolo (as our Italian friends would say) activity I can think of.
The problem there is that when professional car preparers cheat (legal exclusion here!), there actually is a financial gain as they attract other owners who think they must be the best.Cheating at history racing is the equivalent of doping for a club bike ride.
No financial gain, risk your reputation for bragging rights.
The most piccolo (as our Italian friends would say) activity I can think of.
It’s still a sad thing to do.
Newey, looking at you.
Stick Legs said:
ChevronB19 said:
Stick Legs said:
I said it before & I ll say it again:
Cheating at history racing is the equivalent of doping for a club bike ride.
No financial gain, risk your reputation for bragging rights.
The most piccolo (as our Italian friends would say) activity I can think of.
The problem there is that when professional car preparers cheat (legal exclusion here!), there actually is a financial gain as they attract other owners who think they must be the best.Cheating at history racing is the equivalent of doping for a club bike ride.
No financial gain, risk your reputation for bragging rights.
The most piccolo (as our Italian friends would say) activity I can think of.
It s still a sad thing to do.
Newey, looking at you.
Has the discussion subject influenced this?
It'a pity because it was a major draw for me.
I looked farther afield and discovered the Spa Six Hours last year and the race was utterly epic.
RGG said:
I can't help thinking about the GT40 entries that seem to have taken a nose dive over the past two years - 4 I think this year.
Has the discussion subject influenced this?
It'a pity because it was a major draw for me.
I looked farther afield and discovered the Spa Six Hours last year and the race was utterly epic.
The GT40 with the illegal engine was 18 years ago.Has the discussion subject influenced this?
It'a pity because it was a major draw for me.
I looked farther afield and discovered the Spa Six Hours last year and the race was utterly epic.
A GT40 against a period spec CanAm car doesn't stand a chance, but the CanAm cars have had their performance pegged back by Goodwood to bring them closer. It's not really the right race for a GT40, Spa and Le Mans classic are more suitable.
RGG said:
I can't help thinking about the GT40 entries that seem to have taken a nose dive over the past two years - 4 I think this year.
Has the discussion subject influenced this?
It'a pity because it was a major draw for me.
I looked farther afield and discovered the Spa Six Hours last year and the race was utterly epic.
You needed to be there for the Whitsun Trophy in 2013. Has the discussion subject influenced this?
It'a pity because it was a major draw for me.
I looked farther afield and discovered the Spa Six Hours last year and the race was utterly epic.
Sway said:
Wasn't there a near revolt and breakout of parc ferme a little while ago where 'a few' GT40s were found to have roller rockers?
There was no attempt to hide it or break out of parc ferme for the GT40 with the roller rockers, the roller rockers were seen during the post race capacity test where you have to remove the rocker covers to disable the tested cylinders valves from opening to do the test.It was in the St Mary's saloons the same year that the owner took their car out of parc ferme, not complying with the scrutineers request for the same capacity check test.
Both cars kept their result.
These were 18 years ago. I'm not aware of any other GT40 or removal from parc ferme related issue at Goodwood.
732NM said:
RGG said:
I can't help thinking about the GT40 entries that seem to have taken a nose dive over the past two years - 4 I think this year.
Has the discussion subject influenced this?
It'a pity because it was a major draw for me.
I looked farther afield and discovered the Spa Six Hours last year and the race was utterly epic.
The GT40 with the illegal engine was 18 years ago.Has the discussion subject influenced this?
It'a pity because it was a major draw for me.
I looked farther afield and discovered the Spa Six Hours last year and the race was utterly epic.
A GT40 against a period spec CanAm car doesn't stand a chance, but the CanAm cars have had their performance pegged back by Goodwood to bring them closer. It's not really the right race for a GT40, Spa and Le Mans classic are more suitable.
One owner has told me that he prefers to leave his car set up for the longer circuits that you mention, rather than change it for the one short race at Goodwood.
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