Ultegra di2 vs duraace 9000 mech
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Rich_W said:
If you're a pro. Then yep. Di2
If you are a poser that rides once a week. Then Yep Di2
If you ride multiple times a week. Mechanical.
I guarantee if you are a frequent rider you'll run out of charge at least once and be stuck in a suboptimal gear for the remainder of your ride
What about when you factor in cable and cable guide degradation? A once every 2 month battery charge + might run out once every couple of years if you forget vs endlessly changing cables and fighting with sub-optimal shifting.If you are a poser that rides once a week. Then Yep Di2
If you ride multiple times a week. Mechanical.
I guarantee if you are a frequent rider you'll run out of charge at least once and be stuck in a suboptimal gear for the remainder of your ride
Rich_W said:
If you ride multiple times a week. Mechanical.
I guarantee if you are a frequent rider you'll run out of charge at least once and be stuck in a suboptimal gear for the remainder of your ride
Really, at the end of every ride I quickly check the level of charge anything other than solid green I plug it in!I guarantee if you are a frequent rider you'll run out of charge at least once and be stuck in a suboptimal gear for the remainder of your ride
BMWBen said:
Rich_W said:
If you're a pro. Then yep. Di2
If you are a poser that rides once a week. Then Yep Di2
If you ride multiple times a week. Mechanical.
I guarantee if you are a frequent rider you'll run out of charge at least once and be stuck in a suboptimal gear for the remainder of your ride
What about when you factor in cable and cable guide degradation? A once every 2 month battery charge + might run out once every couple of years if you forget vs endlessly changing cables and fighting with sub-optimal shifting.If you are a poser that rides once a week. Then Yep Di2
If you ride multiple times a week. Mechanical.
I guarantee if you are a frequent rider you'll run out of charge at least once and be stuck in a suboptimal gear for the remainder of your ride
But how many cables have you had fail in years of riding? I'm on a handful I would suggest in the last 20 years. And a new set of cables is a lot less than a Di2 battery pack!
okgo said:
Wrong on all counts. Weather makes little odds, I'll do 250 miles over 3 days this week and I bet it won't move off of the current solid green indication.
I plug mine in and charge it every couple of months or so. Not because i've checked it and it's run down, just because it's quick and easy and only takes half an hour or so :-) and i do lots of miles..... in all weathers....... Rich_W said:
BMWBen said:
Rich_W said:
If you're a pro. Then yep. Di2
If you are a poser that rides once a week. Then Yep Di2
If you ride multiple times a week. Mechanical.
I guarantee if you are a frequent rider you'll run out of charge at least once and be stuck in a suboptimal gear for the remainder of your ride
What about when you factor in cable and cable guide degradation? A once every 2 month battery charge + might run out once every couple of years if you forget vs endlessly changing cables and fighting with sub-optimal shifting.If you are a poser that rides once a week. Then Yep Di2
If you ride multiple times a week. Mechanical.
I guarantee if you are a frequent rider you'll run out of charge at least once and be stuck in a suboptimal gear for the remainder of your ride
But how many cables have you had fail in years of riding? I'm on a handful I would suggest in the last 20 years. And a new set of cables is a lot less than a Di2 battery pack!
All batteries can be affected by cold temps, car batteries have been known to fail when the ambient temp drops, but that is usually the final sign that something else was failing.
SomersetWestie said:
okgo said:
Wrong on all counts. Weather makes little odds, I'll do 250 miles over 3 days this week and I bet it won't move off of the current solid green indication.
I plug mine in and charge it every couple of months or so. Not because i've checked it and it's run down, just because it's quick and easy and only takes half an hour or so :-) and i do lots of miles..... in all weathers....... How much of a pain is it to carry a spare battery in a pocket/saddle bag?
mikecassie said:
You're obviously very anti Di2 and will have no good to say about it.
All batteries can be affected by cold temps, car batteries have been known to fail when the ambient temp drops, but that is usually the final sign that something else was failing.
I'm not anti, so much as unconvinced of a need. Seems an additional complexity for very little benefit. Plus the fact that more than once I've had a flat mobile phone when I need it, so what hope when I forget to charge the Di2 battery. All batteries can be affected by cold temps, car batteries have been known to fail when the ambient temp drops, but that is usually the final sign that something else was failing.
And the fact that when it does run out, there appears to be no failsafe option to manually put it into a middling gear to get you home.
I see WHY people like it, but do I as a reasonable rider NEED it and the added costs?
Edited by Rich_W on Friday 14th April 17:40
Rich_W said:
I'm not anti, so much as unconvinced of a need. Seems an additional complexity for very little benefit. Plus the fact that more than once I've had a flat mobile phone when I need it, so what hope when I forget to charge the Di2 battery.
And the fact that when it does run out, there appears to be no failsafe option to manually put it into a middling gear to get you home.
I see WHY people like it, but do I as a reasonable rider NEED it and the added costs?
No Rich, you definitely don't need it. It's great to have, but so's a good 105 or Ultegra set up :-) I have all three on various bikes, and riding the Di2 bike never ceases to put a smile on my face..... and life's far too short not to enjoy whatever you want to, right ?!And the fact that when it does run out, there appears to be no failsafe option to manually put it into a middling gear to get you home.
I see WHY people like it, but do I as a reasonable rider NEED it and the added costs?
Edited by Rich_W on Friday 14th April 17:40
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