Before I pull the trigger on this bike.......

Before I pull the trigger on this bike.......

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astroarcadia

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1,710 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/mtb/grand-canyon/gran...

Is there anything else I should consider?

Want to get back into the MTB and am looking for a hardtail for the locals trails/woods. Don't want carbon or full-sus.

This bike is top of my price range but still looks good value, I would be more comfortable spending around £1500 to be honest but budget creep etc. My road bike is a Canyon which has been faultless - when it turned up! This model looks to be in stock also which is a bonus.


gazza285

9,781 posts

207 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Cube Reaction HPA

Cube Reaction? Mainly for the Shimano groupset and lower maintenance Reba forks.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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That's a great spec. Fox 34's and Eagle drivetrain for that money is a steal.

yellowjack

17,065 posts

165 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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With the sort of budget you seem to be looking at, I'd have a gander at Bird bikes...

Main website... https://www.bird.bike/

"All Mountain" hoonier Zero AM-XT11... https://www.bird.bike/product/zero-am-xt11/#config... ...from £1623.00

Light "Trail Focused" ZERO TR-SLX11 with SLX group... https://www.bird.bike/product/zero-tr-slx11/#confi... ...from £1429.00

Light "Trail Focused" ZERO TR-XT11 with upgrades including XT M8000 11-speed group... https://www.bird.bike/product/zero-tr-xt11/#config... ...from £1587.00


Have a dig around the main site, there's lots of different options if you want to trim or extend your budget, and all of the builds have some degree of freedom to chop and change elements of the spec. I very nearly bought a Zero before I got a Giant Anthem (full sus) at a massive reduction, making it an absolute bargain. I'm currently without a hard tail, but Bird would be my first port of call if I had the cash to buy one...

Fluffsri

3,161 posts

195 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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astroarcadia said:
https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/mtb/grand-canyon/gran...

Is there anything else I should consider?

Want to get back into the MTB and am looking for a hardtail for the locals trails/woods. Don't want carbon or full-sus.

This bike is top of my price range but still looks good value, I would be more comfortable spending around £1500 to be honest but budget creep etc. My road bike is a Canyon which has been faultless - when it turned up! This model looks to be in stock also which is a bonus.
I really like that, nice choice!

The_Jackal

4,854 posts

196 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Considering the shock and the groupset would cost you £1300 alone the canyon is a good deal.
If you believe in getting the best bike you can with the best value for money then the Canyon is it.

andySC

1,187 posts

157 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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I have got a Grand Canyon SLX 9.9 but the 2016 version. It is equipped with XT & has the fancy Terralogic Fox forks (these are mega). The frames are identical. Overall it's a rapid XC bike, it's not shy of getting stuck into the rougher terrain. According to Strava I'm quicker on the GC than my other hard tail although the Canyon is a kilo & a bit heavier. The canyon was my 1st 29er & I like it a lot. Definitely not the slow steering barge they can sometimes be labelled, I find it very nimble & precise. It's quite low at the front (moreso than my Mrs Scott Scale) & feels longer, I like this, feels purposeful & quite "racey". Great bikes although Canyon after sales can (or at least used to) be quite wanting.

Sa Calobra

37,013 posts

210 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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£1900 for that? Where are you thinking of riding? I can think of way better bikes including almost new secondhand ones.

astroarcadia

Original Poster:

1,710 posts

199 months

Sunday 14th May 2017
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Sa Calobra said:
£1900 for that? Where are you thinking of riding? I can think of way better bikes including almost new secondhand ones.
XC trails on my doorstep in Gloucestershire. Some singletrack in my local woods and as a bike to ride alongside my son on the common.

Can you give examples of better bikes? Don't want to buy used.


Notorious100HP

301 posts

216 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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Orange Ex Demos

Couple of hardtails avaiable from Orange.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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Sa Calobra said:
£1900 for that? Where are you thinking of riding? I can think of way better bikes including almost new secondhand ones.
Without providing any links? very helpful.

Eagle groupset alone is £1000, £450ish for the fork, makes the Canyon look like a bargain if you want a top spec hardtail.

The ex-demo Orange's are worth a shout.

Sa Calobra

37,013 posts

210 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/bikes/mountain-bikes/m...


Plenty within this section

http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/bikes/mountain-bikes


The Canyon is a alu frame?

Plenty of carbon 456's out there too. I've got a ti 456 at home that I'm selling at the moment (it'll be too small for you OP as I like my hard tail small; I'm 6ft1 and ride 16" hard tails).

The 29'er sounds like it'd suit your trails etc best.

The Canyon, to me strikes me as some nice bits around a average chassis



Edited by Sa Calobra on Sunday 21st May 18:43

Your Dad

1,926 posts

182 months

Sunday 21st May 2017
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Sa Calobra said:
http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/bikes/mountain-bikes/m...


Plenty within this section

http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/bikes/mountain-bikes


The Canyon is a alu frame?

Plenty of carbon 456's out there too. I've got a ti 456 at home that I'm selling at the moment (it'll be too small for you OP as I like my hard tail small; I'm 6ft1 and ride 16" hard tails).

The 29'er sounds like it'd suit your trails etc best.

The Canyon, to me strikes me as some nice bits around a average chassis



Edited by Sa Calobra on Sunday 21st May 18:43
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scherzkeks

4,460 posts

133 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Rose Count Solo. Rose is Canyon's main competition here in Germany. You can spec the Rose how you want, and the frame is excellent.

You also never have to interact with Canyon's abysmal customer service.

Minnsy

414 posts

266 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Whyte 909.

https://www.whyte.bike/909


Brilliant hardtail... (biased, as I have one though...)

Europa1

10,923 posts

187 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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....have a serious word with yourself about using the phrase "pull the trigger on". wink

Your Dad

1,926 posts

182 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Europa1 said:
....have a serious word with yourself about using the phrase "pull the trigger on". wink
That or he fists the kumquat.


battered

4,088 posts

146 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Sa Calobra said:
£1900 for that? Where are you thinking of riding? I can think of way better bikes including almost new secondhand ones.
Obviously "almost new second hand" is almost always a better deal. See also cars, motorbikes, etc. But some people don't want SH, and buying a new item has its advantages if you don't know your way around what's available.

Sa Calobra

37,013 posts

210 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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Understood but I've just bought a used Genesis Equilibrium thats in a immaculate condition. Far better than I'd manage to keep it in. All for £400 with upgraded Ultegra mech's and 105 shifters. Alot of people sell bikes and bits after little use, partly because they bought it and just couldn't get on with it. Why pay someones margins and waste opportunities?

Id even look at early vintage, good quality mountain bikes. Classic Specialized etc. 26" bikes are going for bargains nowadays as everyone wants 27.5.

Black can man

31,816 posts

167 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
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scherzkeks said:
Rose Count Solo. Rose is Canyon's main competition here in Germany. You can spec the Rose how you want, and the frame is excellent.

You also never have to interact with Canyon's abysmal customer service.
Another vote for Rose here , mines beautiful.

Rose's Customer service is unbelievably good.Nothing is too much trouble.