Project: 2009 Specialized Allez Sport refurb
Discussion
A refurb has started following on from the colour change thread
Before:
I stripped the frame down at the weekend
Here it is half way done.
I have a box of parts stripped off my old colnago mostly Shimano 105 5700 10 speed ready to put on this bike replacing the 2009 Tiagra (9 speed). Cosmetically it will give it under-tape gear cables which I think makes a huge difference.
There are also some new bits to go on. New bar tape in black, some mudguards because this bike is going to be a commuter, I'll move it to mtb style SPD pedals so I can walk and drive in the shoes. New DT Swiss wheelset as the old mavic cxp-22 rims and specialized branded hubs suffered a damaged freehub and weren't really worth repairing.
Today I took the frame to a local blasting/powder coating place and in a week it should come back light blue (RAL 5024).
As a slight nod to the Le Mans trip I did on this bike it's going roughly Gulf colours, but hopefully in quite a subtle way. There won't be any Gulf stickers or race numbers I don't think.
Le Mans Thread
They can't powder coat the carbon forks so I think I am going to get some rattle can orange from https://spray.bike/ and do them myself as well as some accents on the frame.
Could end up something like this 2018 Specialized Allez colour scheme, but black stickers:
I think I will go with the black specialized decals so I don't have to worry about matching colour with the forks. Maybe an orange PH smiley somewhere if I can find a small one.
I can't build until the frame comes back but I still need to do a few things:-
- order the orange rattle can (or I'll nip to Brick Lane Bicycles in a lunch time)
- remove stuck spd-sl pedal from non-drive side crank, seems quite, quite stuck atm.
- get hold of some spd pedals (probably shimano m520)
- order some Specialized decals
- work out what to do with the front mech, 105 replacement is braze-on but this is a band-on frame.
- paint the forks
Any tips, comments or suggestions welcome.
Before:
I stripped the frame down at the weekend
Here it is half way done.
I have a box of parts stripped off my old colnago mostly Shimano 105 5700 10 speed ready to put on this bike replacing the 2009 Tiagra (9 speed). Cosmetically it will give it under-tape gear cables which I think makes a huge difference.
There are also some new bits to go on. New bar tape in black, some mudguards because this bike is going to be a commuter, I'll move it to mtb style SPD pedals so I can walk and drive in the shoes. New DT Swiss wheelset as the old mavic cxp-22 rims and specialized branded hubs suffered a damaged freehub and weren't really worth repairing.
Today I took the frame to a local blasting/powder coating place and in a week it should come back light blue (RAL 5024).
As a slight nod to the Le Mans trip I did on this bike it's going roughly Gulf colours, but hopefully in quite a subtle way. There won't be any Gulf stickers or race numbers I don't think.
Le Mans Thread
They can't powder coat the carbon forks so I think I am going to get some rattle can orange from https://spray.bike/ and do them myself as well as some accents on the frame.
Could end up something like this 2018 Specialized Allez colour scheme, but black stickers:
I think I will go with the black specialized decals so I don't have to worry about matching colour with the forks. Maybe an orange PH smiley somewhere if I can find a small one.
I can't build until the frame comes back but I still need to do a few things:-
- order the orange rattle can (or I'll nip to Brick Lane Bicycles in a lunch time)
- remove stuck spd-sl pedal from non-drive side crank, seems quite, quite stuck atm.
- get hold of some spd pedals (probably shimano m520)
- order some Specialized decals
- work out what to do with the front mech, 105 replacement is braze-on but this is a band-on frame.
- paint the forks
Any tips, comments or suggestions welcome.
Edited by idiotgap on Tuesday 3rd October 18:23
Edited by idiotgap on Tuesday 17th April 10:32
idiotgap said:
- work out what to do with the front mech, 105 replacement is braze-on but this is a band-on frame.
Band on adapter for the front mech.Edited by idiotgap on Tuesday 3rd October 18:23
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/bbb-bsp-90-shiftfix-front-...
Other sizes/colours available.
Cheers, yes one of those made the most sense. If a used 105 band on front mech had been available I might have gone that route, but I know mine is ok.
My Aunty Janet gave me a halfords voucher for my birthday (very kind of her, I'm 42!) so I've ordered the below into the local shop:
http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-parts/gears-d...
http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-parts/pedals-...
I've also got the orange paint now, popped into Brick Lane Bicycles and picked up some Pop Mustang
Finally I've got some stickers on order.
https://graphicsdirect.org/products/specialized-al...
Next things to look at:
- My white saddle is going to look silly, so I might hunt for a black one.
- I've been pondering headset pressing, might grab a home-made threaded bar effort from ebay.
- Also thinking about helicopter tape for some frame protection on the chainstay and cable rub points.
Nearly ready for the build
My Aunty Janet gave me a halfords voucher for my birthday (very kind of her, I'm 42!) so I've ordered the below into the local shop:
http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-parts/gears-d...
http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bike-parts/pedals-...
I've also got the orange paint now, popped into Brick Lane Bicycles and picked up some Pop Mustang
Finally I've got some stickers on order.
https://graphicsdirect.org/products/specialized-al...
Next things to look at:
- My white saddle is going to look silly, so I might hunt for a black one.
- I've been pondering headset pressing, might grab a home-made threaded bar effort from ebay.
- Also thinking about helicopter tape for some frame protection on the chainstay and cable rub points.
Nearly ready for the build
Cool project, I want to do something similar with a Langster but can't find one in my size.
Don't think you'll need a headset press. I'm pretty sure the headset cups are part of the frame on the Allez, and the bearings just sit in them. So you'll just need to mask the bearing surfaces.
It is only the crown race that'll need removing, though I guess you could mask that off too.
Don't think you'll need a headset press. I'm pretty sure the headset cups are part of the frame on the Allez, and the bearings just sit in them. So you'll just need to mask the bearing surfaces.
It is only the crown race that'll need removing, though I guess you could mask that off too.
When I took the forks out there were two ball races left visible in the frame one top, one bottom in cups. The coating guy said they had to come out because of the heat, the grease would melt and it would end up a right mess so he was going to drift them out for me, but they'll need to go back in. Hope he remembers which one was top and which bottom!
I've started painting the forks. I bought a three pack of various grades of abrasive nylon finishing pad from Halfords while I was there picking up the pedals and derailleur band on adaptor.
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-body-repai...
Once I'd cleaned, degreased, keyed, cleaned and degreased again I thought they'd be as ready as I was going to get them, so I masked them up and got them hung up.
After a single coat they were definitely orange, but the old black decals were showing through.
I put about 3 or four coats on before it got dark and now they're looking pretty good. I might do another coat or two tomorrow to finish them off.
No going back now!
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/paints-body-repai...
Once I'd cleaned, degreased, keyed, cleaned and degreased again I thought they'd be as ready as I was going to get them, so I masked them up and got them hung up.
After a single coat they were definitely orange, but the old black decals were showing through.
I put about 3 or four coats on before it got dark and now they're looking pretty good. I might do another coat or two tomorrow to finish them off.
No going back now!
Clio200pat said:
Cool project, I want to do something similar with a Langster but can't find one in my size.
Don't think you'll need a headset press. I'm pretty sure the headset cups are part of the frame on the Allez, and the bearings just sit in them. So you'll just need to mask the bearing surfaces.
It is only the crown race that'll need removing, though I guess you could mask that off too.
My older (2004) Allez has a non-integrated threadless press-fit headset, but for a while Specialized did their own thing, I think, using integrated headsets but with press-fitted cups - 'mindsets'.Don't think you'll need a headset press. I'm pretty sure the headset cups are part of the frame on the Allez, and the bearings just sit in them. So you'll just need to mask the bearing surfaces.
It is only the crown race that'll need removing, though I guess you could mask that off too.
A couple of steps closer today.
I've finished painting the forks and I think they look pretty good.
The powder coater has finished putting the blue on the frame which looks fantastic. I still need to work out if/where to put some orange on that so will be looking at pictures of bikes a bit. Easiest thing is probably to do the seat stays like the 2018 allez pictured above.
I spent a bit of time today reading about and fiddling with the broken red rear mech and I've managed to get a satisfactory fix, so now I have a dilemma. I already had a spare sram red front mech so do I try and find some used sram shifters to put that on it or stick with 105 5700. My inclination is not to spend more and not to put blingy bits on a commuter, but we'll see.
Probably won't do much more with this now until the weekend.
I've finished painting the forks and I think they look pretty good.
The powder coater has finished putting the blue on the frame which looks fantastic. I still need to work out if/where to put some orange on that so will be looking at pictures of bikes a bit. Easiest thing is probably to do the seat stays like the 2018 allez pictured above.
I spent a bit of time today reading about and fiddling with the broken red rear mech and I've managed to get a satisfactory fix, so now I have a dilemma. I already had a spare sram red front mech so do I try and find some used sram shifters to put that on it or stick with 105 5700. My inclination is not to spend more and not to put blingy bits on a commuter, but we'll see.
Probably won't do much more with this now until the weekend.
I got a couple of images of similar framed bikes, put them through an edge detection filter in photoshop to make my own colouring book style picture. I printed it out and got busy with my kid's felt tips just so I could check out paint ideas.
I liked the second scheme best so I'm going to paint the seatstays orange later on. Have to go and see Lego Ninjago in 3D first as it's my youngest son's 4th birthday.
I liked the second scheme best so I'm going to paint the seatstays orange later on. Have to go and see Lego Ninjago in 3D first as it's my youngest son's 4th birthday.
I got busy with the paint again today.
Masked up all but the seat stays
3 coats went on
Looks good I reckon.
Then to re-assemble the headset and get the forks back on. I bought some threaded bar from wickes and washers from halfords.
I seemed to have to apply a lot of force but the bearing cups went back in ok, the powdercoat guy did label them up so I knew which one came from where.
Headset all assembled, starting to get a feel for what it's going to look like.
Applying the stickers is the next job I think, I can't decide if I just put them on and leave them, buy helicopter tape to put over the top, or try and spray lacquer over it.
Masked up all but the seat stays
3 coats went on
Looks good I reckon.
Then to re-assemble the headset and get the forks back on. I bought some threaded bar from wickes and washers from halfords.
I seemed to have to apply a lot of force but the bearing cups went back in ok, the powdercoat guy did label them up so I knew which one came from where.
Headset all assembled, starting to get a feel for what it's going to look like.
Applying the stickers is the next job I think, I can't decide if I just put them on and leave them, buy helicopter tape to put over the top, or try and spray lacquer over it.
Edited by idiotgap on Monday 16th October 08:54
Barchettaman said:
Spray a clearcoat over the frame decals.
Any recommendations? Last time I tried to spray a clearcoat (on the tailgate of my 124 estate) it came out really cloudy and I had to pay a body shop to bail me out.Dannbodge said:
I'm hopefully picking up a 2010 Allez frame (everything bar saddle and wheels) for £50 tonight :lol:
Nice! What have you got planned?It's only researching this rebuild I found out they are popular for crit racing. I guess it's a "race what you can afford to crash" kind of thing. Specialized seem to have cottoned on and more recent 'sprint' and smartweld versions seem to aimed directly at that market.
idiotgap said:
Nice! What have you got planned?
It's only researching this rebuild I found out they are popular for crit racing. I guess it's a "race what you can afford to crash" kind of thing. Specialized seem to have cottoned on and more recent 'sprint' and smartweld versions seem to aimed directly at that market.
I've got a "new" Tiagra 4700 groupset to go onto it once it's been painted.It's only researching this rebuild I found out they are popular for crit racing. I guess it's a "race what you can afford to crash" kind of thing. Specialized seem to have cottoned on and more recent 'sprint' and smartweld versions seem to aimed directly at that market.
Then got some semi deep aero wheels and it's going to be a turbo/winter/commuting bike.
Paint is looking like one of these at the moment. Probably the baby blue one.
Barchettaman said:
I used the clearcoat from a colour/clear twin pack I had left over
Looks nice and shiny!I'll look into getting some clearcoat.
Dannbodge said:
I've got a "new" Tiagra 4700 groupset to go onto it once it's been painted.
Then got some semi deep aero wheels and it's going to be a turbo/winter/commuting bike.
Paint is looking like one of these at the moment. Probably the baby blue one.
That 10 speed hidden cable group is a good shout. I've been very happy with my 9 speed Tiagra, save for the exposed cables. Then got some semi deep aero wheels and it's going to be a turbo/winter/commuting bike.
Paint is looking like one of these at the moment. Probably the baby blue one.
How did you do the paint colour scheme renderings?
Are you going to paint it yourself like that? Looks a bit more complex than I dared do!
timnoyce said:
Maybe colour code your stem orange too if you have any paint left. That'll finish it nicely!
I am troubled by the stem because the face plate is silver. I was thinking of doing an Edd China on it and doing just the plate satin black. I'd not thought of doing the whole thing orange but will give it some thought.Gassing Station | Pedal Powered | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff