Electric bicycles - who buys them?

[vladcjelli]

Yidwann said:

Has anyone got any more or enquired about getting your Bosch Gen4 upgraded yet?

I’m hanging on, planning to get my bike serviced when I hit 1000km, which will probably be in a month or so.

Will enquire then.

[vindaloo79]

This YouTuber sells his imported diyer ones: His bikes and play things are beyond the boundaries of what you can buy, and he should keep a lower profile. But all judgement aside. His conversions and creations look fun:

https://youtu.be/DrXk7wwOhY8

This one he got registered road legal:

https://youtu.be/cMSG6Y_C8-M

Just a shame there isn’t more space in U.K. to enjoy these things without upsetting everyone.

Edited by vindaloo79 on Wednesday 8th July 20:24

Edited by vindaloo79 on Wednesday 8th July 20:34

[gangzoom]

vindaloo79 said:

This YouTuber sells his imported diyer ones: His bikes and play things are beyond the boundaries of what you can buy, and he should keep a lower profile. But all judgement aside. His conversions and creations look fun:

https://youtu.be/DrXk7wwOhY8

This one he got registered road legal:

https://youtu.be/cMSG6Y_C8-M

Just a shame there isn’t more space in U.K. to enjoy these things without upsetting everyone.

Those look like coffins on wheels. I did this to my self trying unsuccessfully to take a corner at 15mph on my non electric road bike. A pedal bike that can go at 20-30mph+ with no effort is just asking for trouble, you will need the self discipline of a monk not to use all that power if its available.

Edited by gangzoom on Wednesday 8th July 22:37

[vindaloo79]

gangzoom said:

Those look like coffins on wheels. I did this to my self trying unsuccessfully to take a corner at 15mph on my non electric road bike. A pedal bike that can go at 20-30mph+ with no effort is just asking for trouble, you will need the self discipline of a monk not to use all that power if its available.

Edited by gangzoom on Wednesday 8th July 22:37

I’m sensing we killed the vibe!

That looks nasty indeed. Stay safe out there!

[gangzoom]

^Its a surface wound and I'll be back out on the bike by Sunday.

But I do cringe when people on this thread talk about hacking motors and wanting free assistance for speeds of 20mph+ with an eBike.

I averaged 18mph on the ride before I came down, to be honest even before I came off I had a few close calls with the rear sliding around under power, and that was just my own leg power.

Pedal bikes on the whole really aren't designed for average speeds of 20mph+, not forgetting other road users don't expect you to be that quick. If you are in an area with pedestrian traffic and doing 20mph+ on a pedal bike you really need to be awake and ready for anything, its amazing how many parents with prams will happily wonder half way into the road than look right!!

I've been road cycling for 20 years, done the LEJOG, a few sportives, and I still get caught out by the speed my non electric road bike.

The few big offs I've had on my pedal bike have all been due to me going to fast for the conditions, nothing to do with cars or lorries which people worry about when taking up cycling. I am far more of a danger to my health than other road users.

A MAMIL on an eBike with a hack/illegal motor capable of putting out x10 the amount of power Chris Froome can......I just hope they have told their family their wishes for organ donation beforehand.

Edited by gangzoom on Friday 10th July 06:06

[Dog Star]

I’m an MTBer who like riding a lot of technical stuff, and I’ve never ever felt the need to derestrict my bike. I ride with a big group of very good normal mtbers and we rarely ride roads, and unless you’re going downhill you just don’t exceed 15mph.

[anonymous-user]

You can go too fast for conditions at 10mph too. I don't personally think destricting adds risk. It's all on the rider.

[PushedDover]

Agree that on an MTB the 15mph limit is largely irrelevant.
I'd find it frustrating on a Gravel / Road bike I suspect.

[KrissKross]

Is the Cube Stereo Hybrid 140 Pro a good machine.

Looking for something circa £3-4k

I am also getting older so won't be doing huge jumps and backflips anytime soon. I am an ex motocross-enduro rider and will be swapping engines for electric soon.

I do like the Haibikes but at almost double the price of the Cube machines, I cannot really justify.

Thanks

[ruggedscotty]

not even 2mph and hit ice. came off. great things bikes but they need respect, all okay until something isnt okay....

and your pretty vunerable on a bike with it turns not okay....

[LeadFarmer]

gangzoom said:

But I do cringe when people on this thread talk about hacking motors and wanting free assistance for speeds of 20mph+ with an eBike.

But to be fair, it's easy to to do 20mph+ on a normal bike, my derestricted ebike allows me to do the exact same speeds but with less effort to achieve them, so theres no real difference.

[vindaloo79]

LeadFarmer said:

But to be fair, it's easy to to do 20mph+ on a normal bike, my derestricted ebike allows me to do the exact same speeds but with less effort to achieve them, so theres no real difference.

I went back and checked my old Strava times to make sure I’m not kidding myself on. It does appear I’m nearer 18mph on flat on my carbon bike. Weighs about 10kg and my 12.6kg 26er isn’t far behind.

Downhills are always 20-25mph with a few 30+ peaks for the fun stuff.

I guess big grippy tyres and strong brakes keep things safe.

I do wear protective gear for down hills and gnarly stuff mind.

Inspired by recent ebike adventures I’ve decided to try motorbikes and I’ve booked my cbt for Wednesday. Maybe I should have a separation between my biking ventures and not blur the mix too much...

[gangzoom]

LeadFarmer said:

But to be fair, it's easy to to do 20mph+ on a normal bike, my derestricted ebike allows me to do the exact same speeds but with less effort to achieve them, so theres no real difference.

The video I was talking about isn't on a eBike doing 20mph where you would do 20mph anyways, these things are basically electric motor bikes but with zero regulation or need for a licence.

If you want to ride around at motorbike speeds, go and buy a motorbike, wear proper gear. I personally stay away from motorbikes not because I don't like going quick on 2 wheels, more because I can barely stay upright on a pedal bike, with a motor bike I would be road kill within a week.

[Driver101]

LeadFarmer said:

gangzoom said:

But I do cringe when people on this thread talk about hacking motors and wanting free assistance for speeds of 20mph+ with an eBike.

But to be fair, it's easy to to do 20mph+ on a normal bike, my derestricted ebike allows me to do the exact same speeds but with less effort to achieve them, so theres no real difference.

I do agree that hitting an average of 20mph is only for good cyclists, but exceeding 20mph is common. I'd say that most could probably manage to exceed 30mph in the right conditions.


20mph on a bike isn't that fast.

[vindaloo79]

All the above said, I think I enjoy technical uphills more than the downhill stuff some days lately.

Tighty rocky berms and the scrambling up.

I remembered today why I bought an ebike in first place, and it was because of a bad knee that just didn't seem to get better despite some phsyio over recent years.

The cheating has helped me (largely) forget about that this year.

[anonymous-user]

PushedDover said:

Agree that on an MTB the 15mph limit is largely irrelevant.
I'd find it frustrating on a Gravel / Road bike I suspect.

It's useful if you link up fireroads.

[lrdisco]

Anyone give me their views on this bike please-
https://www.3peakscycles.com/products/cube-nature-...

I will not be going off trails, roads and tow paths etc.
I really know nothing about ebikes so any help is welcome.

[vindaloo79]

lrdisco said:

Anyone give me their views on this bike please-
https://www.3peakscycles.com/products/cube-nature-...

I will not be going off trails, roads and tow paths etc.
I really know nothing about ebikes so any help is welcome.

I deliberately didn't answer the cube question above earlier as I think others are better placed to answer.

Personally I find a lot of mainstream brands overpriced.

I have this from decathlon for £2699 and I am really happy with it:

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/stilus-full-suspension...

I feel like this competes easily with other brands at close to £4k bikes.

[PushedDover]

lrdisco said:

Anyone give me their views on this bike please-
https://www.3peakscycles.com/products/cube-nature-...

I will not be going off trails, roads and tow paths etc.
I really know nothing about ebikes so any help is welcome.

First bonus, its in stock.

I have a variant of this / Cube, and happy with it for what it is, and imagine towpaths and light trails / gravel roads fine.
Anything more and you'll probably want an Acid or Reaction.

[MrVert]

vindaloo79 said:

I deliberately didn't answer the cube question above earlier as I think others are better placed to answer.

Personally I find a lot of mainstream brands overpriced.

I have this from decathlon for £2699 and I am really happy with it:

https://www.decathlon.co.uk/stilus-full-suspension...

I feel like this competes easily with other brands at close to £4k bikes.

That looks like really good value with the 65Nm Bosch unit and full suspension.