Electric bicycles - who buys them?

[frisbee]

Electric bikes are great equalisers. For example a professional cyclist can go out for a ride with his pregnant wife:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdOUhsX88O0

And suffer on the hills even!

[Johnnybee]

I've recently ordered the new Haibike AllMtn 7, it's hard to beat for value for money. I've owned an older Haibike before and loved the Yamaha motor so it's nice to see they're using it again.

[gangzoom]

Barchettaman said:

260 commuting KMs on mine this week, it’s been awesome. Thank goodness for Gore-Tex and mudguards though.

Loving my eBike for commuting, only did 50km this week though, mudguards are life savers in the rain!

Great video on just how hard riding an eBike can be, I feel as knackered after riding mine as I do my road bike, but for commuting I sit back at sub 15.5mph so the motor can do most of the work on the way which avoids need for a shower on arrival.

https://youtu.be/fBof7BL-mQQ

[The Mad Monk]

Johnnybee said:

I've recently ordered the new Haibike AllMtn 7, it's hard to beat for value for money. I've owned an older Haibike before and loved the Yamaha motor so it's nice to see they're using it again.

Do you really think that if we are talking about value for money - then the Haibike at £5,599.00

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/Haibike-AllMtn-7-2021...

is better value than the Oxygen MTB at £1,649.00?

https://www.oxygenbicycles.com/shop-2/s-cross-mtb/

[Johnnybee]

The Mad Monk said:

Do you really think that if we are talking about value for money - then the Haibike at £5,599.00

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/Haibike-AllMtn-7-2021...

is better value than the Oxygen MTB at £1,649.00?

https://www.oxygenbicycles.com/shop-2/s-cross-mtb/

OK, I'll rephrase that. Compared to a Specialized or most of the big brands fitted with the same suspension and wheels etc then the Haibike in comparison is good value for money.

[leyorkie]

The Mad Monk said:

Johnnybee said:

I've recently ordered the new Haibike AllMtn 7, it's hard to beat for value for money. I've owned an older Haibike before and loved the Yamaha motor so it's nice to see they're using it again.

Do you really think that if we are talking about value for money - then the Haibike at £5,599.00

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/Haibike-AllMtn-7-2021...

is better value than the Oxygen MTB at £1,649.00?

https://www.oxygenbicycles.com/shop-2/s-cross-mtb/

You do realise that one is full suspension and built to take some punishment and the other is a low rent bike that won’t last very long. Yes they are both good value at their price points but not comparable apart from them both having two wheels.

[The Mad Monk]

leyorkie said:

You do realise that one is full suspension and built to take some punishment and the other is a low rent bike that won’t last very long. Yes they are both good value at their price points but not comparable apart from them both having two wheels.

For the record - as they say.

I have the CB version of the Oxygen MTB. I bought it just short of six years ago. The bike and I are still good friends.

I think - not to put too fine a point on it - that you don't know what you are talking about and are making a sweeping generalisation.

[Brainpox]

The Mad Monk said:

leyorkie said:

You do realise that one is full suspension and built to take some punishment and the other is a low rent bike that won’t last very long. Yes they are both good value at their price points but not comparable apart from them both having two wheels.

For the record - as they say.

I have the CB version of the Oxygen MTB. I bought it just short of six years ago. The bike and I are still good friends.

I think - not to put too fine a point on it - that you don't know what you are talking about and are making a sweeping generalisation.

In fairness you are comparing apples to oranges with no real justification for doing so other than 'this bike is cheaper'. You seem a bit clueless as to where the money goes.

[leyorkie]

Brainpox said:

The Mad Monk said:

leyorkie said:

You do realise that one is full suspension and built to take some punishment and the other is a low rent bike that won’t last very long. Yes they are both good value at their price points but not comparable apart from them both having two wheels.

For the record - as they say.

I have the CB version of the Oxygen MTB. I bought it just short of six years ago. The bike and I are still good friends.

I think - not to put too fine a point on it - that you don't know what you are talking about and are making a sweeping generalisation.

In fairness you are comparing apples to oranges with no real justification for doing so other than 'this bike is cheaper'. You seem a bit clueless as to where the money goes.

[PushedDover]

leyorkie said:

You do realise that one is full suspension and built to take some punishment and the other is a low rent bike that won’t last very long. Yes they are both good value at their price points but not comparable apart from them both having two wheels.

I think the gist of this post is correct, although some may bruise from it.
I would say for pottering around - yes the Oxygen is great value for money compared to the Haibike, sticking to tow paths etc perhaps. Beyond that, and giving either a year of descents and alike the attrition rate (damage?) the Oxygen would receive would be considerable.

[Barchettaman]

The Mad Monk said:

Do you really think that if we are talking about value for money - then the Haibike at £5,599.00

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/Haibike-AllMtn-7-2021...

is better value than the Oxygen MTB at £1,649.00?

https://www.oxygenbicycles.com/shop-2/s-cross-mtb/

Eh? One’s a high-grade fully, the other is a low(er) grade hardtail with a hub motor.

Apples, oranges etc etc

[The Mad Monk]

For the record my 'quibble' was the phrase

"it's hard to beat for value for money."

We may well be comparing different varieties of citrus fruit, but I find it hard to say that an E- MTB at £5,600 can be "value for money".

If we disagree then we are just going to have to agree to disagree.

[nickfrog]

The Mad Monk said:

Do you really think that if we are talking about value for money - then the Haibike at £5,599.00

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/Haibike-AllMtn-7-2021...

is better value than the Oxygen MTB at £1,649.00?

https://www.oxygenbicycles.com/shop-2/s-cross-mtb/

If the Oxygen can't do what the Haibike can (and for me it definetely couldn't and I can guarantee I would destroy it within 1 hour of using it) then it is terrible VFM compared to a bike that can satisfy the brief, even at 3 times the price.

[leyorkie]

Value for money.
I have a Cannondale synapse e- road bike with Bosch drive.
Compared to my mates Specialized it’s very good value for money in my mind.
£3500 vs £4500 but he’s happy it’s what he wanted.
To my mind the Oxygen is a £400 bike fitted with a motor. Sorry but that’s how I see it.

[Trophy Husband]

nickfrog said:

The Mad Monk said:

Do you really think that if we are talking about value for money - then the Haibike at £5,599.00

https://www.e-bikeshop.co.uk/Haibike-AllMtn-7-2021...

is better value than the Oxygen MTB at £1,649.00?

https://www.oxygenbicycles.com/shop-2/s-cross-mtb/

If the Oxygen can't do what the Haibike can (and for me it definetely couldn't and I can guarantee I would destroy it within 1 hour of using it) then it is terrible VFM compared to a bike that can satisfy the brief, even at 3 times the price.

As they say, buy best, buy once.
But horses for courses may apply?
I've hammered my Bergamont eMTB over the past 2 odd years and it keeps on giving. At the time I thought £3k was a hefty sum. Now it seems like a bargain.

[PushedDover]

Agreed and that price - but as above, I reckon the oxygen would be fit for only towpaths ..... can’t see it taking much Mountain Biking - as advertised

[magpies]

leyorkie said:

Value for money.
I have a Cannondale synapse e- road bike with Bosch drive.
Compared to my mates Specialized it’s very good value for money in my mind.
£3500 vs £4500 but he’s happy it’s what he wanted.
To my mind the Oxygen is a £400 bike fitted with a motor. Sorry but that’s how I see it.

and if the Oxygen does what it's owner wants - then fine

that is why there is a great choice of bike.

[interstellar]

My YT Decoy turned up an hour ago. Can’t wait to hit the trails on it at the weekend!

[PushedDover]

interstellar said:

My YT Decoy turned up an hour ago. Can’t wait to hit the trails on it at the weekend!

And in the meantime .....??

[nickfrog]

PushedDover said:

interstellar said:

My YT Decoy turned up an hour ago. Can’t wait to hit the trails on it at the weekend!

And in the meantime .....??

I would suggest he checks there is any grease in the headset. Mine had none whatsoever.