Electric bicycles - who buys them?

Electric bicycles - who buys them?

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Dog Star

11,921 posts

129 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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RizzoTheRat said:
But in the UK presumably you need a number plate, licence, insurance, mot, etc as it's classed as a moped rather than an electric assisted bicycle?
I think you are allowed 350W, and they have to be pedal assist. But if you have a more powerful one or fit a switch then who on earth is going to be any the wiser?

Cupramax

9,335 posts

213 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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250w nominal for the UK.

PistonBroker

2,005 posts

187 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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I went out to see a chap a couple of years ago to quote for his insurance. Mrs PB sat in the car round the corner as we were going on somewhere. She was a little shocked to see me whizz past on one of the e-bikes he had in stock!

They are indeed great fun. I suppose you wouldn't feel you need to get all geared-up if you had one rather than a scooter - e.g. you don't have to wear a helmet by law.

Saves getting sweaty.

I live just over a mile from the office and it would be ideal for that commute . . . though I guess a normal bike ought to be ideal for that relatively flat commute. So the Disco Sport we use is slightly overdoing it! :-p

I had a DT50 when I was 16, to save me having to cycle or catch the bus to see mates. I lived 6 miles from school and most of my mates lived near school. I guess these days, if you considered the cost of bike + CBT + insurance + extra gear you might well come to the conclusion that an e-bike made more sense. Even more so when you consider I spent much of the 6th form smelling of burnt 2T!

Hoofy

71,395 posts

243 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Looking on Halfords, you can get ebikes from £600. What's wrong with them?

herewego

8,814 posts

174 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Dog Star said:
RizzoTheRat said:
But in the UK presumably you need a number plate, licence, insurance, mot, etc as it's classed as a moped rather than an electric assisted bicycle?
I think you are allowed 350W, and they have to be pedal assist. But if you have a more powerful one or fit a switch then who on earth is going to be any the wiser?
The trauma team might be suspicious.

Cupramax

9,335 posts

213 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Hoofy said:
Looking on Halfords, you can get ebikes from £600. What's wrong with them?
Small capacity batteries and cheapo hub motors on a mega cheapo frame with no name Chinese components normally.

g7jhp

6,378 posts

199 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Electric bicycles - who buys them?

Usually those who need to get some exercise.

The benefits of exercise and cycling in particular are well known.

I understand why people don't like to get sweaty going to work, but you can take it easy on a bike and it's great exercise (and often cooler than walking)!

Esceptico

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3,544 posts

70 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Hoofy said:
Looking on Halfords, you can get ebikes from £600. What's wrong with them?
if the quality of their ebikes is as poor at their normal bikes, stay well clear. Bought a cheap bike for my wife and despite light use and being kept in the garage it disintegrated within two years. I would never buy a bike from Halfords again.

The Mad Monk

8,012 posts

78 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Esceptico said:
Recently rode an electric bicycle. It was actually alright. Managed to keep up a decent pace with less effort than cycling - felt a bit smug/guilty cruising past normal cyclists going up a hill.

Then I checked out the prices on the internet. WTF! Seemed like most were £2k or much more (even those that just looked like a normal bike with a battery attached).

I can certainly understand the appeal of an electric bike but when you can buy a rev-and-go scooter for the same money, which can offer 120 mpg, space under the seat for a helmet, no effort and much greater road presence, then why would you?
They don't have to be 2 grand. I paid 1200 for my Oxygen e bike from these people

www.e-bikesdirect.co.uk


whom I would recommend. No connection other than a satisfied customer

Hoofy

71,395 posts

243 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Cupramax said:
Hoofy said:
Looking on Halfords, you can get ebikes from £600. What's wrong with them?
Small capacity batteries and cheapo hub motors on a mega cheapo frame with no name Chinese components normally.
Oh.

Esceptico said:
Hoofy said:
Looking on Halfords, you can get ebikes from £600. What's wrong with them?
if the quality of their ebikes is as poor at their normal bikes, stay well clear. Bought a cheap bike for my wife and despite light use and being kept in the garage it disintegrated within two years. I would never buy a bike from Halfords again.
And, oh.

phil4

809 posts

199 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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We've heard a few good reasons for them (commute, painful joints), but I'd expect if you look into bikes in general, most are bought for one of (if not both of) two reasons: 1) To improve health/fitness. 2) for a cheap way to get around town/cover small distances.

As such, mass uptake is probably rules them out on both grounds.

Personally I was in the market for one, and price didn't put me off... what did was the fact I wouldn't get much fitter... so I bought a motorbike instead.

Cupramax

9,335 posts

213 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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I think you’re wrong with your assumption you won’t get much fitter. I ride my bike way way more than I used to pre e modification, and when I do ride it, I also go further and on longer rides time wise, probably double what I used to.

Dog Star

11,921 posts

129 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Cupramax said:
skilly1 said:
Can you link to the one you bought on ali express?
The exact battery I bought isn’t on there now as its over a year ago, but I bought a Hailong “shark” type similar to the ones Bosch make, only way higher capacity. The company is Unit Pack Power, they make batteries for several of the Ebike companies.

https://m.aliexpress.com/store/storeHome.htm?selle...

Battery similar to this one.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32741299208/327412...
This AliExpress thing - I've never used it. How do you get on with customs and stuff? That's a lot of wedge to risk getting hit with another couple of hundred quid on in duty. They also don't look any cheaper than a UK supplier - or am I missing something?


Cupramax

9,335 posts

213 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Spec for spec they’re way cheaper for high capacity batteries, haven’t looked at the cheaper end. I paid on my credit card and transaction was no different from say Amazon. Good contact from the supplier and shipping / tracking detail when it shipped. My Battery came from Hong Kong via Holland which is a well known import duty avoidance method. I didn’t get caught for any duty whatsoever. I may have been lucky, maybe not. The tax would have been £45 possibly?

The Mad Monk

8,012 posts

78 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Finlandia said:
There are e-bikes that look just like normal e-bikes, but are in fact e-mopeds, with a top speed of 45kph and a range of up to 80km wink


Where did you buy that? I have had a quick Google without success.

Dog Star

11,921 posts

129 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Cupramax said:
Spec for spec they’re way cheaper for high capacity batteries, haven’t looked at the cheaper end. I paid on my credit card and transaction was no different from say Amazon. Good contact from the supplier and shipping / tracking detail when it shipped. My Battery came via from Hing King via Holland which is a well known import duty avoidance method. I didn’t get caught for any duty whatsoever. I may have been lucky, maybe not. The tax would have been £45 possibly?
This is cool stuff, thanks.

I am aiming to get a full eBike at the end of summer, but was toying with converting my existing hardtail, a Diamondback Sync 4.0 to electric (I have a full suspension as well, but I think the electric gubbins would ruin that).

ccr32

1,788 posts

179 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Esceptico said:
daddy cool said:
Presumably a scooter requires road tax, driving licence and insurance, non?
Can you still ride a scooter on a full bike licence (if you have done a CBT)? Not sure. I think road tax and insurance are pretty low as long as you are not that young.
Yes re: licence. But you'd still need to tax and insure the scooter. Depending on where you live (e.g. London) this can be cost prohibitive, even for something <125cc given the current levels of scooter-based crime.

tr7v8

6,472 posts

189 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Esceptico said:
Hoofy said:
Looking on Halfords, you can get ebikes from £600. What's wrong with them?
if the quality of their ebikes is as poor at their normal bikes, stay well clear. Bought a cheap bike for my wife and despite light use and being kept in the garage it disintegrated within two years. I would never buy a bike from Halfords again.
Crossfire 1 from Halfords now in its 3rd year. Been serviced, nothing broke or needed replacement. Now done 600 miles or so.

Cupramax

9,335 posts

213 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Carreras are half decent bikes so not surprised you’ve been ok with that. Wouldn’t buy anything cheaper than them though at Halfords.

ccr32

1,788 posts

179 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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Cupramax said:
Here’s mine, Bafang motor kit.
I really like the look of this! Have been looking at kits to convert my circa 15 year old Specialized in to something that I could use for the commute instead of the current scooter. Did the battery come with the motor kit?