Simple poll

Poll: Simple poll

Total Members Polled: 142

Chopper: 39%
Grifter: 44%
Eh what you talking about old man? : 17%
Author
Discussion

vixen1700

22,893 posts

270 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I'd guess that the Grifter came out in '76 or '77.

Deerfoot

4,902 posts

184 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Summer '76 if Wikipedia is correct..

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Back then the Grifter was a kids bike but the Chopper was for real men yes

TTmonkey

Original Poster:

20,911 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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the Chopper most of us think about was earlier, 1972 ish. Mine was second hand, and I reckon I had it 1975. Hard to know though.


I'm 51. I had mine just before the Grifter came out. That It was second hand is the issue though, I think if I had been getting a new bike it wouldn't have been a chopper. If I had a bike a year later, it would more likely have been a grafter, if new.

MB140

4,063 posts

103 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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TTmonkey said:
Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area said:
I had that siren thing on my light blue Grifter. Did anyone else’s Sturmey Archer gears slip between 2nd and 3rd, risking you whacking your balls on the stem?
Where as the chopper had that very dangerous gear leaver selector actually on the main part of the frame - just right for smashing your 'nads on...
Oh I have painful memories of smashing my nads of that leaver. Oh it brings a shiver to the spine. What a silly place to put a gear lever.

Watchman

6,391 posts

245 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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This was my not-a-Chopper. It was a Spanish-made "Intercity" which was better and worse than the Chopper. Two 20" wheels were far more stable, the seat right over the rear axle made wheelies inevitable (I'm citing that as a good thing - YMMV biggrin), and the T-bar shift lever was cool.

But, nylon shim headset, so there was significant fore-aft movement. If it were today, I'd engineer my own bearing but back then it was just something to live with.

Approx 1979 I reckon.

vixen1700

22,893 posts

270 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Here's the Raleigh Tomahawk Formula 3.

All the other kids took the piss out of my wheels because they weren't normal spokes. frown

Heathens! biggrin

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

107 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I had this exact model in 1977 IIRC. It was a death trap with horrendous speed wobble with your weight over the drop bars. They didn't last long in production but I thought it was ace. However, my father didn't due to it being a death trap and made me sell it back to Dave Gordon for a tenner after I'd given him all of my £15 10th birthday money for it a mere 3 weeks earlier. A fiver was a lot of dough to an 10 year old back in those days.




The Grifter came in '76 and, would you believe it, weighed in at 35kgs!!! My pal Kev had one for his 11th birthday. You had to plan a kerb hop about 10ft before you got to the kerb it was that heavy!!

RizzoTheRat

25,155 posts

192 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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My mate had a Grifter and his brother had a Chopper. On the road their gears were worth having but for everything else my Team Murray BMX was vastly superior. The Grifter weighed a ton and the chopper was impossible to wheelie.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I learned to ride on a tomahawk I think it was orange.

Rofl at that death trap racing chopper though.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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RizzoTheRat said:
My mate had a Grifter and his brother had a Chopper. On the road their gears were worth having but for everything else my Team Murray BMX was vastly superior. The Grifter weighed a ton and the chopper was impossible to wheelie.
It wasn't, you had to really roll your weight back in the seat though. I lost my front wheel mid wheelie as I didn't do the nuts up correctly biggrin

P-Jay

10,564 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Burner for me, I picked up an original one recently, I fancy it weighed more than my current FS MTB, back in the day it was a complete feather weight compared to a Grifter, I dread to think what they weigh.


Seems they weighed 35Kgs!!!! My old Cove DH bike (also known for being a bit chubby) was 'only' 20Kgs!

35Kgs kids bike, jesus.

Edited by P-Jay on Thursday 18th October 16:50

neil-1323bolts

1,083 posts

106 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Grifter for me in light blue , the slip gear really got me one day , accelerating hard it slipped and so did I straight into a concrete lamppost resulting in a trip to AandE , nobody bothered with helmets back in the day . I still have the scar on my now bald head ! My parents could not afford a BMX for me so I used the grifter to try and do tricks and jumps , it was really heavy , I did not realise 35kg ?? ! Anyway I bent the forks in the end and then got a racer or road bike , it was a 5 speed Raleigh ace in red I loved it but desperately wanted the ten speed so I could have 2 shifters , 2 was way more cool !

gazza285

9,810 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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35lbs maybe, not 35kg...

Sa Calobra

37,119 posts

211 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I had a Strika. Couldn't afford a Grifter!

Bloody made up for it since smile

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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gazza285 said:
35lbs maybe, not 35kg...
Absolutely not 35kg, that would be more than some of the kids riding them. 35lbs sounds feasible and is still the best part of 16kg. Imagine riding a push bike close to half your weight as an adult...

TTmonkey

Original Poster:

20,911 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Watchman said:



This was my not-a-Chopper. It was a Spanish-made "Intercity" which was better and worse than the Chopper. Two 20" wheels were far more stable, the seat right over the rear axle made wheelies inevitable (I'm citing that as a good thing - YMMV biggrin), and the T-bar shift lever was cool.

But, nylon shim headset, so there was significant fore-aft movement. If it were today, I'd engineer my own bearing but back then it was just something to live with.

Approx 1979 I reckon.
Those wheels are clearly different radius though......

gazza285

9,810 posts

208 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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TTmonkey said:
Watchman said:



This was my not-a-Chopper. It was a Spanish-made "Intercity" which was better and worse than the Chopper. Two 20" wheels were far more stable, the seat right over the rear axle made wheelies inevitable (I'm citing that as a good thing - YMMV biggrin), and the T-bar shift lever was cool.

But, nylon shim headset, so there was significant fore-aft movement. If it were today, I'd engineer my own bearing but back then it was just something to live with.

Approx 1979 I reckon.
Those wheels are clearly different radius though......
Those wheels look the same radius to me, different sized tyres though.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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I had a Mk1 Chopper, mustard orange. Wish I’d kept it, younger brother trashed it after handed down!
Elderly neighbour collects & restores them. Believe it or not, he has a Chopper Sprint, dropped bars, still in the box ! Worth a few quid I imagine.

Watchman

6,391 posts

245 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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gazza285 said:
TTmonkey said:
Watchman said:



This was my not-a-Chopper. It was a Spanish-made "Intercity" which was better and worse than the Chopper. Two 20" wheels were far more stable, the seat right over the rear axle made wheelies inevitable (I'm citing that as a good thing - YMMV biggrin), and the T-bar shift lever was cool.

But, nylon shim headset, so there was significant fore-aft movement. If it were today, I'd engineer my own bearing but back then it was just something to live with.

Approx 1979 I reckon.
Those wheels are clearly different radius though......
Those wheels look the same radius to me, different sized tyres though.
Exactly that - different tyres. Both 20" wheels and even the same width rims.