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Dizeee

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18,302 posts

206 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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I am sorely tempted to buy a 2018 Cervelo S5 which I have found for a great price, almost 50% off. It is Ultegra and caliper breaks, which is fine by me, as it will replace my summer De Rosa. Yes I would like DI2 and discs, but, that's expensive, and I am so utterly bored of my De Rosa it is effecting my cycling. I have had it for 6 years now and I am bored of it.

I can take the wheels off the De Rosa, have them put on the Cervelo when built for no extra cost, and put the Mavic Cosmics that come with the bike on the De Rosa in order to sell it in Spring. Could work out very well, especially if I get a good price for the De Rosa.

Jimbo.

3,947 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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If the De Rosa is boring to the point of “effecting” your cycling...then the Cervelo will be EXACTLY the same. Once the Shiny Bike Syndrome has passed, neither you or anyone else will GAF, you’ll be just as bored and a good chunk of cash down.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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A new bike every 6 years isn’t excessive, is it?


Jimbo.

3,947 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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No. But the De Rosa isn’t rubbish, and cannot be “boring” enough to the point where it effects [sic] your cycling. Dropping a significant amount of coin on a new bike that, all things considered, isn’t that much different to the “boring” De Rosa, all in the hope of Making Cycling Great Again, will be an expensive disappointment.

This is another case of the Dizzeeee Shiny Shiny.

wobert

5,051 posts

222 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Have you thought about a Canyon? rofl

bigdom

2,084 posts

145 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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wobert said:
Have you thought about a Canyon? rofl
I seem to remember, they're a bit heavy.

Whilst more costly, surely the only route is custom carbon? Filament, Reilly, Wyndy Milla et al would be able to provide what you are searching to find?

Dizeee

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18,302 posts

206 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Personally as above I don't think a new bike every 6 years is excessive, and I have become very used to and bored of the De Rosa. I have done huge miles on it, and I want a change. I am also convinced that in 6 years technology and research must have moved on to a point of improving frames since I purchased. For me a lot of the riding is very much about the bike, and the feeling I get when I am on it. Shun that idea if you like, but it's the truth. The thought of treating myself to a shiny new bike ( at a great price - £2500 ) and re-invigorating that excitement to get out and ride in Spring and Summer is a really exciting prospect.

DA and Enve sound very tempting, but I would like to spend as little as possible. I am thinking that if I buy the S5, swap my current wheels over, and sell the De Rosa, I could refresh what I already have in essence. My De Rosa should seel for around £800 to 1k- so I would splash out 1.5k in reality, for a bike that only a few months ago cost just under 5k. That's not so silly is it?

My only hurdle at the moment is that I have a Campag free hub on my wheelsmiths. I am presuming it is not too difficult to swap a freehub to Shimano, but I am looking into that now.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Why are you even asking? Just buy it

wobert

5,051 posts

222 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Dizeee said:
Personally as above I don't think a new bike every 6 years is excessive, and I have become very used to and bored of the De Rosa. I have done huge miles on it, and I want a change. I am also convinced that in 6 years technology and research must have moved on to a point of improving frames since I purchased. For me a lot of the riding is very much about the bike, and the feeling I get when I am on it. Shun that idea if you like, but it's the truth. The thought of treating myself to a shiny new bike ( at a great price - £2500 ) and re-invigorating that excitement to get out and ride in Spring and Summer is a really exciting prospect.

DA and Enve sound very tempting, but I would like to spend as little as possible. I am thinking that if I buy the S5, swap my current wheels over, and sell the De Rosa, I could refresh what I already have in essence. My De Rosa should seel for around £800 to 1k- so I would splash out 1.5k in reality, for a bike that only a few months ago cost just under 5k. That's not so silly is it?

My only hurdle at the moment is that I have a Campag free hub on my wheelsmiths. I am presuming it is not too difficult to swap a freehub to Shimano, but I am looking into that now.
Yes, bike tech has moved on, but mainly around shifting (electronic) and braking (disc brakes). I don't have intimate knowledge of the S5, but if it has neither, then all you are really upgrading, is the frame and nothing more....

I wouldn't get hung up over the saving, but only you can decide whether the financial outlay is worth it?

Given the experience you had with the Canyon, have you sat on one? If, not then I think you should do so.... othereise you risk repeating the loop again! laugh

Riding, is a very personal thing.....for me, it's not about the bike, but about being out in the fresh air, getting some exercise and taking positives from both the physical and mental "unloading" this brings - personally, I get as much satisfaction from riding my £500 GT Grade as I do from my £2.5k Canyon.

Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,302 posts

206 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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I will be heading to Sigma to sit on one this week for sure. The Canyon issue I had was around sizing so if anything I need to make sure I get proper advice this time.

I just want to work out how difficult it is going to be as I am being given conflicting advice re my Wheelsmiths. Some are saying I have to send the wheels back to Scotland to get this done, which could be a hassle.

Matt_N

8,901 posts

202 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Dizeee said:
I will be heading to Sigma to sit on one this week for sure. The Canyon issue I had was around sizing so if anything I need to make sure I get proper advice this time.

I just want to work out how difficult it is going to be as I am being given conflicting advice re my Wheelsmiths. Some are saying I have to send the wheels back to Scotland to get this done, which could be a hassle.
What hubs are they? The Wheelsmith own brand? If so they’re a generic Taiwanese hub with easily replaceable freehubs, should be readily available and swappable with just a hex key.

Mr Ted

251 posts

107 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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I agree with Wobert, you seem to be hung up more on price taggery than getting to the bottom of your boredom, as Wobert said, buying something that doesn't have all the newest tech doesn't make sense and is certainly why it's being offered at such a huge discount.

We all get the new bike itch but you might be back in the same state a few months down the line if you don't think it through.

What type of riding do you do? Unless you are entirely fixated on materialism then maybe trying a new discipline is the answer, do you ride byways and bridleways for example, maybe a gravel bike that lets you explore off road would get you going again. Do you ride long distance? Why not try an Audax!

Most folk drop into a bit of a hole in the winter, especially after Christmas, and get an itchy wallet but if you don't think it through all you end up with is buyers remorse!!! We have all been there and done that at some time!!!


moonigan

2,137 posts

241 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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If I was buying a new bike now then I wouldn't entertain anything with caliper brakes. Discs are here to stay and better in every way.

Jimbo.

3,947 posts

189 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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You want to spend as little as possible, yet still drop £2.5K on something that’s not really that different?

fk me.

The boredom you refer to is more deeply rooted than the bike. If you find cycling “boring” on the De Rosa, you’ll find it boring on the Cervelo. And there are only so many shop windows you can ride past...

But hey, your bike, your money to piss up the wall.

wobert

5,051 posts

222 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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One further thought....

Do you mainly ride solo?

About 2 years ago, I fell into the “cycling by myself” rut, doing the same routes all the time, it became boring and no longer a challenge, I lost my motivation.

I found a local informal group of like-minded people and have been riding with them ever since.

Varied routes, bit of banter, non-cycling evenings out. Plus it gives me the motivation to get out early on dark Winter weekends and ride the 8 or so miles to the meet-up point...

mcelliott

8,661 posts

181 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Find a new interest.

whatleytom

1,292 posts

183 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Dizeee said:
Personally as above I don't think a new bike every 6 years is excessive, and I have become very used to and bored of the De Rosa. I have done huge miles on it, and I want a change. I am also convinced that in 6 years technology and research must have moved on to a point of improving frames since I purchased. For me a lot of the riding is very much about the bike, and the feeling I get when I am on it. Shun that idea if you like, but it's the truth. The thought of treating myself to a shiny new bike ( at a great price - £2500 ) and re-invigorating that excitement to get out and ride in Spring and Summer is a really exciting prospect.

DA and Enve sound very tempting, but I would like to spend as little as possible. I am thinking that if I buy the S5, swap my current wheels over, and sell the De Rosa, I could refresh what I already have in essence. My De Rosa should seel for around £800 to 1k- so I would splash out 1.5k in reality, for a bike that only a few months ago cost just under 5k. That's not so silly is it?

My only hurdle at the moment is that I have a Campag free hub on my wheelsmiths. I am presuming it is not too difficult to swap a freehub to Shimano, but I am looking into that now.
That vintage of S5 is almost 10 years old now itself, why not buy something a bit more up to date?

Master Bean

3,564 posts

120 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Buy it. You'll probably get bored of it after 6 years but that's ok. My cube is 3 years old and I want a new bike. Not sure why everybody on here is so anti buying a bike all of a sudden.

Your Dad

1,934 posts

183 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Purchase will not happen. Seen too many posts from OP regarding costs of X,Y and Z and spending on this and that, buyers regret and remorse.

If purchased then "S5 will be too stiff on the flat, to slow on the climbs" or some st like that.

Treb0r

67 posts

97 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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I'm pretty sure the cervelo S5's frame remained almost the same from around 2013 to 2018, with a significant revamp for MY2019.
So you might be buying a bike that's no "newer" in terms of tech than your current one.