Should I?

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keith2.2

1,100 posts

194 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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I spent 3k on my felt a couple of years ago "the most I'd ever be willing to spend on a bike" and justified by "it won't need replacing for years"

Yeah well 2 years on and I wasn't even thinking of changing. Then I got excited by the SystemSix, decided I wanted Discs and DI2 and before I knew what was going on I'd bought a 2019 Oltre XR4 with discs and di2 for double what the felt cost.

Totally unjustifiable and I don't care.

Buy a new bike but if you want discs / di2, buying a rim brake with cable shifting because it's cheap stops being a bargin the moment you regret not spending a bit more and getting what you actually want.

counterofbeans

1,061 posts

138 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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I would buy the Cervelo if I were you. It sounds nice.

I'm glad to see you back on your feet financially as I recall a thread last year where you were unable to afford vet's fees for your sick dog.

Good luck with your new bike.

ChrisMCoupe

927 posts

211 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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mcelliott said:
Find a new interest forum.


Absolute madness to think about dropping 2.5k on a new bike to cure your boredom as you put it. The Cervelo will not dramatically re-ignite your love for cycling again, and will probably not feel much different to the De Rosa if riding the same wheels and similar GS.

As stated already, the future is heading towards electronic and disc, so much so that most new frame-sets (especially aero) being developed are only being produced to cater for these. Maybe spend your money going electric or save your money until you can get something disc and radically different to what you already have.

Or just buy it and moan later wink

rastapasta

1,846 posts

137 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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Give cycling a break for a while and take your mind off it. There are some brutal sentiments here but at the same time people are correct in my opinion. The Cervelo is an old design so you'll regret buying it a few minutes into your first ride when you realize it does SFA more than the de rosa and could in fact be an inferior machine. 6 years isnt often to change a bike but realistically you should upgrade and not downgrade otherwise it will end up costing you what you 'saved' in upgrades. Park the idea for a while and see in 6 weeks how you feel. Meantime you should look into another activity like running or going to the gym and getting ripped.

Usget

5,426 posts

210 months

Monday 7th January 2019
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whatleytom said:
That vintage of S5 is almost 10 years old now itself, why not buy something a bit more up to date?
They changed it quite a bit in 2015, they look fairly different when you see them side by side.

I make no comment on whether or not OP should buy one, as he has his own special set of requirements. But, as per the "what bike bits have you just bought" thread, I did. It's being delivered on 15th January and I cannot wait. You could make arguments one way or the other for it not being the "best" bike you can buy for £2500, it's certainly not the most modern, but it's the one I want the most. So there.

(per the comments above, I did consider the Dura Ace model with the Enves, but I ran out of man maths. I'll fit an eTap upgrade to this one when I can afford it).

Usget

5,426 posts

210 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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Well Dizzeeeee, did you go for it in the end?

Mine just arrived yesterday. I'm over the moon with it. Not that I've ridden it yet, I need to cut the seatpost (gulp) and fit my saddle and wheels, but it looks gorgeous. I may have even licked it slightly.

Dizeee

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18,166 posts

205 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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No ,i thought about what people had said and slept on it. I still do want a new bike, but the thought of shelling out and not having discs / electronic shifting did make me realise that all I would be gaining would be aesthetics. Personally I thought the S5 would ride stiffer, smoother and more aero than my "De Ribble" - but if most think that won't be the case, that's enough to dampen my enthusiasm slightly.

But I still really want a fresh bike. Trouble is, to get anything that is Carbon, Light, Aero with discs and electronic gears, your starting 5k. Its just so much money, and I am not sure I am prepared to leave myself so short in the pocket for what will just be a bit of better braking , and slicker shifting. I don't know, its a dilemma really isn't it.

'Ive just shelled out for a load of stuff for the house so have spent a fortune in the last month, once I have had settled in a couple of months I will re assess. I still really want something fresh for summer. Wonder what I would get for mine - 1k?

anonymous-user

53 months

Tuesday 15th January 2019
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why buy new?

here is a small and random selection of Di2 / Disc bikes from the bay

Scott foil £2.4k https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173739321429

Specialized Roubaix £3.5k https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352567885367

Trek Domane £2.4k https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202558978812


Dizeee

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18,166 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Very kind of you to post those, I had just typed out a long reply which has now vanished from my PC, ultimately it was around the fact that they don't do much for me and they are just not special enough.

Shallow as that may seem that is the reality for me, I miss the excitement and energy associated with a fresh and upmarket machine as the De Rosa once was and I want to have that feeling back again.

I like Cippollnis, Cervelos and I particularly like Scapin too. But they are very, very, very expensive. I have also now come round to the idea of an S Works of some sort too. But also pricey. I also very much like the Orbea Orca.

Scapin:

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&...

Dizeee

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18,166 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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My own research has led me to the Merida Reacto Disc 7000-E 2019 - DI2 and Discs, Aero Carbon Frame, for £3600 - if it was in stock though. The site I found this on was completely sold out of the entire range of sizes for that particular variant.

addey

1,029 posts

166 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Velosport in Putney have some 2018 Orbea Orcas on sale

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Dizeee said:
My own research has led me to the Merida Reacto Disc 7000-E 2019 - DI2 and Discs, Aero Carbon Frame, for £3600 - if it was in stock though. The site I found this on was completely sold out of the entire range of sizes for that particular variant.
What size do you need? There are some on offer from a seller in Israel on ebay with free shipping to UK at £2,959.20

https://tinyurl.com/y99fpjkx




Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,166 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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I saw those a week or two ago. Great in theory but I am slightly dubious around the logistics of dealing with Isreal in the event of a no show, a damaged product or a warranty claim.

Matt_N

8,900 posts

201 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Dizeee said:
My own research has led me to the Merida Reacto Disc 7000-E 2019 - DI2 and Discs, Aero Carbon Frame, for £3600 - if it was in stock though. The site I found this on was completely sold out of the entire range of sizes for that particular variant.
You previous post talks about some bikes that don't appeal because they're no special enough, but then you talk about a Merida? A good bike it might be but they mass produce frames for themselves and some other manufacturers, not quite what I'd call special.



Matt_N

8,900 posts

201 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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What size frame do you think you'd need?

Any appeal in one these, Colnago Concept?

https://www.merlincycles.com/colnago-concept-aero-...

You could build a great bike based on that frameset.

stongle

5,910 posts

161 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Having a pose is a great motivation to get out and ride. Sure its shallow, but if it gets you out – why not. Whilst undoubtedly the Cervelo is a good bike, it’s a bit ubiquitous / too obvious. If posing is the aim, go more left field. Storck Aerofast, the new BMC Timemachine would be where I’d be looking. Much more interesting.

You could, as the De Rosa frame is ok-ish; go for a new custom paint job / wheels / powermeter. The paintjob makes it much more interesting, and the wheels / power meter actually improve performance. When the De Rosa is really tired; out that and get a new frame.

rastapasta

1,846 posts

137 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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I get what you are looking for. You are trying to buy something with a bit of cache and 'less obvious' but with some degree of exclusivity of that makes sense. I guess its a bit like driving an Audi RS4 in the early 90's before every pleb could get their hands on one.

For me such a bike would be a 'Look' 795 or as already mentioned, a Storck, or a Merckx.

S Works are nice also.

All fine machines in their own right. Maybe sit tight and the right one will come along nearly new.


Dizeee

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18,166 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Matt_N said:
You previous post talks about some bikes that don't appeal because they're no special enough, but then you talk about a Merida? A good bike it might be but they mass produce frames for themselves and some other manufacturers, not quite what I'd call special.
I get that, but for some reason and I don't know why, I like Merida. They seem different enough, although I am told they produce the frames for Specialized or vice versa. The model I linked to above provides aero ish frame, carbon, electric shifting and discs, all for well under 5k. That and the Orbea Aero Orca are amongst the few I have found that offer this so far.

Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,166 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Matt_N said:
What size frame do you think you'd need?

Any appeal in one these, Colnago Concept?

https://www.merlincycles.com/colnago-concept-aero-...

You could build a great bike based on that frameset.
That's right up my street, like that a lot. For 2k it would be a straight frame swap. However, I would still be stuck with my Campag Potenza mechanical that ha snever shifted correctly anyway, and my rim brakes. Its the same as the S5, just an aesthetic swap. If I added electric gears and anything over the nor, the price would be up to the 5k mark soon enough.

Dizeee

Original Poster:

18,166 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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rastapasta said:
I get what you are looking for. You are trying to buy something with a bit of cache and 'less obvious' but with some degree of exclusivity of that makes sense. I guess its a bit like driving an Audi RS4 in the early 90's before every pleb could get their hands on one.

For me such a bike would be a 'Look' 795 or as already mentioned, a Storck, or a Merckx.

S Works are nice also.

All fine machines in their own right. Maybe sit tight and the right one will come along nearly new.
Like those two very much, less so the Mercx.