Gravel Bikes - what exactly are you supposed to do with one?

Gravel Bikes - what exactly are you supposed to do with one?

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Evanivitch

20,031 posts

122 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Jimboka said:
I’m not really into cycling for fitness as such (I run a lot..) but thinking of a gravel bike to get further afield at weekends. Not on roads too often. Plenty of bridal ways & towpaths around here.
To get a bit further, it got me thinking of an electric gravel bike !
Does such a thing exist ?
Certainly.

https://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/hybrid-bike...

GSE

2,339 posts

239 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Evanivitch said:


Here's mine kitted out for winter commuting. I've had it since mid September and done about 1500 miles on it now. I use it pretty much every day, it's bloody brilliant!


ATG

20,549 posts

272 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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The comparison btwn these and the bd offspring of an early mountain bike and a fast tourer (e.g. Dawes Galaxy, Carlton Corsair, Raleigh Record Ace) looks on the money. I used to ride fast tourers, often lugging camping gear, often venturing onto Forestry Commission tracks where the lack of traction and narrow, hard tyres were blatantly unsuitable. Plus the rims and half the other gear was really too fragile. But the contemporary MTBs were _so_ heavy and slow on tarmac that there was no way I'd go touring on one just to make the FC tracks a bit less suicidal. These gravel bike things look like a very good alternative to those fast tourers, having to only compromise a little road performance in order to gain a bit more capability on unmetalled tracks.

Probably time to spoil the party by comparing them to a Nissan X-Trail.

yellowjack

17,074 posts

166 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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lufbramatt said:
yellowjack said:
ThisInJapanese said:
lufbramatt said:
Well found out at the weekend that my dad, 64, intent on spending my inheritance ( ;-) ) has ordered an Orange X9. can't wait to have a go when it arrives. Got a 40mm travel "gravel specific" version of a Fox 32 stepcast fork on it. Blurs the lines even more between gravel and a hardtail MTB.
Just looked it up: https://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/x9-pro/2020

Looks interesting, like a Slate, but without the Slate issues (wheel clearance, cost of fork etc etc)
Ooh! I like that. But prices "from £2,300" don't fill me with hope of ever having one. And so it's back to my £53 ebay bargain Cannondale Backroads once again. It's just had a new headset bearing fitted (1,900 miles in my ownership, and probably the first time it's been done since it was built in the USA in the late '90s/early 00s) by The Forge Cycleworks in Ringwood, so very much in need of a test-ride today...

wavey
I gather he found a cheeky "black Friday" deal on a retailers website so paid a few hundred less than that. But I agree, the price of new bikes is crazy. I'd love to update my full sus MTB, but I'd be looking at the best part of £3k to get something I'd want. which isn't going to happen any time soon.

Enjoy the test ride thumbup
Test ride enjoyed! And it feels great, Not only did Martin at The Forge Cycleworks replace the headset bearing, but he also appears to have fettled the front derailleur for me without further charge. Something I tried in vain to sort myself, it now changes up to the 'big ring' far more readily than it's ever done since I bought it nearly 2,000 miles ago. And after trying to ride my Emonda road bike on gravel while this one was in the shop, I'm so glad to have it back again. It's like a magic carpet ride compared with my skinny-tyred trail riding lunacy!

yellowjack

17,074 posts

166 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Heads up for anyone considering an On-One Space Chicken. Extra 20% off (until midnight on Wednesday) according to an email i got today from Planet X. Use code "CHICKENB4EGG" at the checkout.

I can't afford one, but good luck to anyone who can. I'm also not convinced by SRAM components, as I'm a Shimano fan boy, and I can't see a Shimano build listed on their site.

Tall_Paul

1,915 posts

227 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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Evanivitch said:
Jimboka said:
I’m not really into cycling for fitness as such (I run a lot..) but thinking of a gravel bike to get further afield at weekends. Not on roads too often. Plenty of bridal ways & towpaths around here.
To get a bit further, it got me thinking of an electric gravel bike !
Does such a thing exist ?
Certainly.

https://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/hybrid-bike...
Have a look at the Ribble CGR AL e too - https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-cgr-al-e/


rexel1

33 posts

160 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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wobert

5,036 posts

222 months

Tuesday 10th December 2019
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yellowjack said:
I'm also not convinced by SRAM components, as I'm a Shimano fan boy, and I can't see a Shimano build listed on their site.
My Grade is SRAM.

I’ve run it for the last year and a bit, but have acquired a full set of 105 5800/7000 components to convert to full hydros over Christmas.

I prefer Shimano, better shifting, more comfortable hoods and parts are cheaper and more readily available....

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Thanks for the ‘electric’ gravel bike suggestions
I’m drawn to this one:-
Cannondale Synapse Neo SE 27.5" 2020 - Electric Road Bike
https://www.tredz.co.uk/.Cannondale-Synapse-Neo-SE...
As get 10% off, then cyclescheme. So less than £1600 ..

Tall_Paul

1,915 posts

227 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Keep an eye on the weight, that cannondale is 18kg, the ribble I linked is 13kg.


On e-mtbs the weight is less of an issue, but on an electric road/gravel bike, they're more than capable of being pedalled on the flat above the 15.5mph cut off, once you're above that the extra 5kg will make a difference.

Evanivitch

20,031 posts

122 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Tall_Paul said:
Keep an eye on the weight, that cannondale is 18kg, the ribble I linked is 13kg.


On e-mtbs the weight is less of an issue, but on an electric road/gravel bike, they're more than capable of being pedalled on the flat above the 15.5mph cut off, once you're above that the extra 5kg will make a difference.
Ribble has half the battery size doesn't it, 250W v 500W.

Tall_Paul

1,915 posts

227 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Evanivitch said:
Tall_Paul said:
Keep an eye on the weight, that cannondale is 18kg, the ribble I linked is 13kg.


On e-mtbs the weight is less of an issue, but on an electric road/gravel bike, they're more than capable of being pedalled on the flat above the 15.5mph cut off, once you're above that the extra 5kg will make a difference.
Ribble has half the battery size doesn't it, 250W v 500W.
Yeah it has a a smaller, lighter rear hub motor too. Depends if you just want to plod along at maximum 15mph on the uphill/flat or if you want to be able to sit at 20mph on the flat.

With either you'd be able to go up a decent incline at or near the 15mph cut off.

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Thanks again
The Cannondale isn’t available until next April it turns out. Will think about the others too

SamR380

725 posts

120 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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ATG said:
The comparison btwn these and the bd offspring of an early mountain bike and a fast tourer (e.g. Dawes Galaxy, Carlton Corsair, Raleigh Record Ace) looks on the money. I used to ride fast tourers, often lugging camping gear, often venturing onto Forestry Commission tracks where the lack of traction and narrow, hard tyres were blatantly unsuitable.
That's basically the way I saw it...


Barchettaman

6,303 posts

132 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Tall_Paul said:
On e-mtbs the weight is less of an issue, but on an electric road/gravel bike, they're more than capable of being pedalled on the flat above the 15.5mph cut off, once you're above that the extra 5kg will make a difference.
Not on the flat it won’t.

You‘ll take marginally longer to get up to speed on the flat, but that’s it.

RevsPerMinute

1,875 posts

221 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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I suppose it depends on your location. For me If I was off Tarmac I would rather be on a fast Hardtail MTB.


OlonMusky

708 posts

54 months

Thursday 12th December 2019
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Barchettaman said:
Tall_Paul said:
On e-mtbs the weight is less of an issue, but on an electric road/gravel bike, they're more than capable of being pedalled on the flat above the 15.5mph cut off, once you're above that the extra 5kg will make a difference.
Not on the flat it won’t.

You‘ll take marginally longer to get up to speed on the flat, but that’s it.
It won't be as nimble as a lighter bike, so unless most of the roads/paths in your area is straight you will feel the difference on flats.

Stereolab

197 posts

47 months

Monday 1st August 2022
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Good information in here so far.

I’m pondering a gravel bike having really enjoyed some longer trips this summer aboard my wife’s £100 quid special MTB.

Most routes are 90% tarmac but I really don’t like the idea of a full on road bike - something I could just ride into kerbs and over gravel with the kids would be much better. I don’t have the space for multiple bikes.

Just researching now and looking at the tube/tubeless debate.

I’m light at 75kg and, as said, mostly on tarmac. I’d also be using the bike fairly irregularly e.g. once or twice over a month rather than daily.

I’d prefer the less faff option which would just be normal air tubes right?

Any advice appreciated and will update when the purchase is made.

Got to say that I enjoy research more than spending on stuff like this so it could be a while before I buy read