Thinking of a mid range "special" bike... Gravel?

Thinking of a mid range "special" bike... Gravel?

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Sway

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26,250 posts

194 months

Tuesday 24th December 2019
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Thinking of taking advantage of the newly unlimited C2W scheme.

Have a Boardman Pro hardtail from a few years ago (last of the 26" wheel) that gets infrequent use out with pre-teen kids.

However, have had a hankering for a "nice" bike for a while. Steel or Titanium, no aluminium or carbon.

Something that can do a bit of everything. Summer commute to the train station, light blue trails with the kids (such as Queen Elizabeth Country Park), rides to the pub. However, also something I'd like to hang on the wall for the vast majority of the time it won't be being ridden! Got enough 'beater' bikes cluttering the garage!

Any recommendations? Clean lines, decent kit, up to £2.5k, maybe a little more for something nice. Frame is everything... Wheels pretty close. Everything else a doddle to improve over the years.

Sway

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26,250 posts

194 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Have been idly looking for options...

Ribble CGR Ti looks good, decent spec for the dosh, configurator doesn't list 650b wheels, but sure I could spec them.

Reilly Gradient looks superb, however pushes the budget a tad...

Anything else to consider? Struggling to find a high end steel that isn't custom and tonnes of dosh.

JayBM

450 posts

195 months

Your Dad

1,933 posts

183 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Planet X Tempest, like the Ribble but a heck of a lot cheaper. Money saved will go towards the inevitable Hunt wheelset.

Matt London

782 posts

168 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Have looked at the Damavand Peak Huey? It’s pretty good as long as you don’t overspeed it with your mates in the back! biggrin

smifffymoto

4,545 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Thorn Nomad mk3.

mooseracer

1,879 posts

170 months

Thursday 26th December 2019
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Mason Definition

Your Dad

1,933 posts

183 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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mooseracer said:
Mason Definition
Not steel or ti.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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I was thinking of getting one of these, Moulton :-

https://fudgescyclestore.com/product/moulton_m22_s...

Sway

Original Poster:

26,250 posts

194 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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Matt London said:
Have looked at the Damavand Peak Huey? It’s pretty good as long as you don’t overspeed it with your mates in the back! biggrin
ps off. Git!

Hope you're well bud?

Sway

Original Poster:

26,250 posts

194 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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Thanks for the suggestions - they're helping me realise what I want!

I would like (and will probably run the majority of the time) proper 650b compatibility.

ISO disc mounts are out - it really ruins the 'specialness' with adaptors, etc.

Clean (not necessarily internal) cable routing.

So far, I think I'm down to two on the shortlist:

https://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ribble-cgr-ti-sram-... seems a hell of a lot of bike for the money.

Or

https://www.reillycycleworks.com/products/gradient...

Which is a couple of hundred quid more, not quite as good a spec - but if I'm reading things right is made down the road from me in Brighton.

Really struggling to find anything steel I really like. Cotic's Escapade is the closest - but no info on what steel equals gas pipe in my mind, and specced up with Hope it's the same price as the Ti CGR.



woots787

141 posts

149 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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There's a very positive review of the escapade on road.cc. fairlight secan also looks good.

Your Dad

1,933 posts

183 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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Sway said:
Ribble - £1000 more than the PX Tempest with same groupset, frame allegedly made by the same factory plus Reilly designed the Tempest frame.

mooseracer

1,879 posts

170 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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Your Dad said:
Not steel or ti.
Resolution then smile

(skim read and missed that requirement!)

Your Dad

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183 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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mooseracer said:
Your Dad said:
Not steel or ti.
Resolution then smile

(skim read and missed that requirement!)
Shame that then blows the "£2.5k, maybe a little more"

mooseracer

1,879 posts

170 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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Your Dad said:
Shame that then blows the "£2.5k, maybe a little more"
Sigh, that really depends how you define "a little more" but anyway, 650b requirement rules it out.

Does the Tempest take 650b? As ever it looks to be a lot of bike for the money.

Your Dad

1,933 posts

183 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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mooseracer said:
Does the Tempest take 650b?
Spec/geo on PX website says it does, although they're not selling any with 650 wheelset at the moment they have done previously and they might swap it if asked.

Sway

Original Poster:

26,250 posts

194 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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Secan looks awesome - going to enquire if they support C2W. 853, with Grx800 and Hope 650B wheels is pretty much bang on the money.

Planet X - I won't go there. Bad experience a number of years ago, but they lost all likelihood of a further sale to me. Shame, as it's a great saving (only seemingly losing slick cable management for a big saving).

Mason's are stunning - I love them. However, an extra £1k realistically. This really would be a bike to spec up to standard after purchase, but not sure I could actually get on one to begin with!

woots787

141 posts

149 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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I spoke to Cotic a while ago and asked why no 853 or UK made given they do it on some of their mtbs. They said they were more stiffness limited than strength on the escapade so didn't think the weight that they could save with 853 would justify the price increase.

I do like the Secan as well, but a 105 escapade with hope bits is pretty reasonable cash.

woots787

141 posts

149 months

Friday 27th December 2019
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The other,alternative is to get a custom frame from someone like Rourke or vernon baker. No cycle to work saving though but doable for your money.