Thinking of a mid range "special" bike... Gravel?

Thinking of a mid range "special" bike... Gravel?

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Your Dad

1,933 posts

183 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
I've ordered a Ribble CGR Ti. My thinking is sell the Mavic wheels and buy superstar wheels. UK made hubs unlike Hunt so supporting British..
Having owned both Superstar and Hunt wheels, I'd personally not buy Superstar wheels again. Bearings didn't last, build quality was poor and rear axle snapped during strip down.

Sway

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26,254 posts

194 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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If you're after British components, especially wheels, you don't need to look anywhere other than Hope...

Ribble looks a great bike, enjoy!

Hugo Stiglitz

37,115 posts

211 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Your Dad said:
Having owned both Superstar and Hunt wheels, I'd personally not buy Superstar wheels again. Bearings didn't last, build quality was poor and rear axle snapped during strip down.
24 spoke road wheels, 16 stone no issues. In the early days SS used Novatec hubs too. Now they are manufactured in the UK by SS themselves.

A front superstar wheel that's running smooth after 4 years main bike mountain biking. I'd love to replace it. I promised I would when it's goosed. The bike frames a new Santa Cruz so you could consider it a odd mix..

Edited by Hugo Stiglitz on Friday 26th February 09:39

powgoff

8 posts

86 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Has Ribble given you a delivery date for the CGR Ti? The website is suggesting August

Hugo Stiglitz

37,115 posts

211 months

Friday 26th February 2021
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Yes. It was either that or October for Canyon

RoamingBull

167 posts

92 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Sent a few emails to Reilly and had very little response bar from a couple on sentences. Seems to be the norm as posted.

So Enigma or any other brand I should be looking at? 3-4k to spend on a bike I can get a move on the road plus take on the gravel and bridleways in the Lincs wolds.

Sway

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26,254 posts

194 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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RoamingBull said:
Sent a few emails to Reilly and had very little response bar from a couple on sentences. Seems to be the norm as posted.

So Enigma or any other brand I should be looking at? 3-4k to spend on a bike I can get a move on the road plus take on the gravel and bridleways in the Lincs wolds.
Enigma - Jim and the guys will sort you out a great bike for that (equivalent to mine - Asian frame, Ultegra level mechanical, plenty of Hope bling including nice wheels). Either Escape or Etape depending on your likely road/gravel split.

Ribble/et al - you'll get a similar quality Asian frame, probably electronic group but likely less nice finishing kit.

If you're happy with other materials - well Mason will do you a gorgeous aluminium framed Bokeh or Enigma (and I'm sure plenty of others) could provide a sweet UK made steel framed bike...

Edited by Sway on Friday 5th March 11:03

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

135 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Mason also do ti versions (not sure if the price is within budget).

Also perhaps Laverack. I rather fancied one of theirs, and was looking at them in the same category as engima. Don't recall exact prices.

Sway

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26,254 posts

194 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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upsidedownmark said:
Mason also do ti versions (not sure if the price is within budget).

Also perhaps Laverack. I rather fancied one of theirs, and was looking at them in the same category as engima. Don't recall exact prices.
Unfortunately, Mason Ti is mega dosh (equal to Enigma bespoke).

Laverack is also about £3-500 more than Enigma iirc.

In terms of pricing of Ti frames, it seems to be:

"Big sheds" (Kinesis, Ribble, etc.)

Add £300

Reilly (Asian)

Add £200

Enigma (Asian)

Add £300

Laverack (and a couple of others I can't remember)

Add "some"

Mason (Asian)/Enigma et al (UK bespoke)/US producers


Daveyraveygravey

2,026 posts

184 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Sway said:
Unfortunately, Mason Ti is mega dosh (equal to Enigma bespoke).

Laverack is also about £3-500 more than Enigma iirc.

In terms of pricing of Ti frames, it seems to be:

"Big sheds" (Kinesis, Ribble, etc.)

Add £300

Reilly (Asian)

Add £200

Enigma (Asian)

Add £300

Laverack (and a couple of others I can't remember)

Add "some"

Mason (Asian)/Enigma et al (UK bespoke)/US producers
Planet X also do ti bikes, I think they are lower priced than most of the above.

Siao

870 posts

40 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Daveyraveygravey said:
Sway said:
Unfortunately, Mason Ti is mega dosh (equal to Enigma bespoke).

Laverack is also about £3-500 more than Enigma iirc.

In terms of pricing of Ti frames, it seems to be:

"Big sheds" (Kinesis, Ribble, etc.)

Add £300

Reilly (Asian)

Add £200

Enigma (Asian)

Add £300

Laverack (and a couple of others I can't remember)

Add "some"

Mason (Asian)/Enigma et al (UK bespoke)/US producers
Planet X also do ti bikes, I think they are lower priced than most of the above.
Yup, picked up my Titus for just below £2k, I would recommend that (I'm sure Ares would too!). It is awesome, not sure what could justify £2-3k more to go to something like Enigma or Mason...

Dnlm

320 posts

44 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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If I had time and cash would go for a Sturdy

https://www.instagram.com/sturdycycles/


Sway

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26,254 posts

194 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Dnlm said:
If I had time and cash would go for a Sturdy

https://www.instagram.com/sturdycycles/
Yup, just gorgeous.

From £8k though!

AceKid

281 posts

55 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Not ti, but i have ordered a Shand Stoater, fully handbuilt in Scotland, steel frame, being fabricated next week...custom paint and any number of customisation available. Im going for grx and 700c hope wheels.
8-10 weeks lead time to delivery....cant wait!

Daveyraveygravey

2,026 posts

184 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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There's also Dolan, a range of frame materials and costs

Dnlm

320 posts

44 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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Sway said:
Dnlm said:
If I had time and cash would go for a Sturdy

https://www.instagram.com/sturdycycles/
Yup, just gorgeous.

From £8k though!
Let me rephrase... Time plus bags and bags of cash!

RoamingBull

167 posts

92 months

Saturday 6th March 2021
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Thank you for the information.

Will take a look at Enigma and maybe send them a mail to see whats what.