Cycle computers

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alistair1234

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1,131 posts

146 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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I've got a Garmin Edge Explore 820 which I've had for a few years, but I'm not a big fan. It seems slow to do things sometimes and freezes occasionally even on the most recent firmware when going from power save mode to displaying the screen again.

What should i buy to replace it? The Garmin model numbers really confuse me.

Is the 530 an upgrade? As far as i can tell it doesn't have touch screen, but that's not necessarily a bad thing as mine is really slow.

The 830 is £100 more but seems to only have touch screen as an extra.

Or should I switch I switch to Wahoo? There's only two choices, they both seem to have nav but the cheaper one is black and white only.

Is that it?

flight147z

974 posts

129 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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alistair1234 said:
I've got a Garmin Edge Explore 820 which I've had for a few years, but I'm not a big fan. It seems slow to do things sometimes and freezes occasionally even on the most recent firmware when going from power save mode to displaying the screen again.

What should i buy to replace it? The Garmin model numbers really confuse me.

Is the 530 an upgrade? As far as i can tell it doesn't have touch screen, but that's not necessarily a bad thing as mine is really slow.

The 830 is £100 more but seems to only have touch screen as an extra.

Or should I switch I switch to Wahoo? There's only two choices, they both seem to have nav but the cheaper one is black and white only.

Is that it?
Check out "DC Rainmakers" website. He writes great in depth reviews for everything related to cycle technology including loads on cycle computers.

I use Wahoo so I'm not an expert on Garmin however I believe the "Explore" range aren't aimed at performance cyclists and the functionality is designed to appeal to more casual cycle tourers. The non explore range computers are therefore targeted at a different market

You are correct in that the main difference between those two Garmin's is the touch screen - for most people the sweet spot in the Garmin range is probably the 530

ian in lancs

3,772 posts

198 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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I bought the 530 as it seemed to be the sweet spot between cost and capability. I use it on my mountain bikes and road bike. I bought the MTB package as it came with a rubber case and a handle bar remote. The remote is convenient as the case buttons are awkward/lack tactile feedback.

Blatter

855 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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+1 for the Garmin 530.

I have a road bike and previously had a Garmin 520. It's been a quantum leap to the 530. Backgrounds on the maps and the ability to be able to get you back to the route, without having to back to EXACTLY the spot where you went off route.

The battery life is pretty good as well. I've completed several 100 mile rides and there's been plenty of battery left.

flight147z

974 posts

129 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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If you are considering a Wahoo the closest equivalent to the 530 is probably the Elemnt Roam which typically retails for around £50 more.

The main difference between the two brands is the way that they are designed to work. On Wahoo units setup and settings are generally done through a smartphone that connects to the device via Bluetooth (you don't need to keep it paired once done). On Garmin most things need to be done on the unit itself

For me the way the Wahoo system works is far better and that's why I went with that (albeit I have a cheaper model - the Bolt)

I think the 530 is better value than the Roam and has more features though so overall it's easier to recommend the Garmin of the two

If you don't need advanced navigation features or a colour screen then the Bolt is still a great computer and cheaper than the other two

As above, loads of detail on all of these on DC Rainmaker

option click

1,164 posts

226 months

Friday 19th June 2020
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I have a 530 on its way as my 500 has finally given up.

Looking forward to the big step up in mapping/wayfinding

smn159

12,649 posts

217 months

Friday 19th June 2020
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I changed out my Elemnt Bolt for a 530 recently and am very happy with the decision. the 530 feels like a significant upgrade in terms of the mapping, integration with Strava segments - and the Climb Pro feature is excellent.

The only downside so far is that there appears to be a long standing issue whereby updating the 530 software with a Mac causes odd things to happen - luckily I have a Windows laptop as well.

Edited by smn159 on Friday 19th June 16:04

alistair1234

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1,131 posts

146 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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Blatter said:
+1 for the Garmin 530.

I have a road bike and previously had a Garmin 520. It's been a quantum leap to the 530. Backgrounds on the maps and the ability to be able to get you back to the route, without having to back to EXACTLY the spot where you went off route.

The battery life is pretty good as well. I've completed several 100 mile rides and there's been plenty of battery left.
That’s been the biggest frustration for me, constantly having messages popping up to go back to where i left the route when I’m already back on it is so annoying

alistair1234

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1,131 posts

146 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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smn159 said:
I changed out my Elemnt Bolt for a 530 recently and am very happy with the decision. the 530 feels like a significant upgrade in terms of the mapping, integration with Strava segments - and the Climb Pro feature is excellent.

The only downside so far is that there appears to be a long standing issue whereby updating the 530 software with a Mac causes odd things to happen - luckily I have a Windows laptop as well.

Edited by smn159 on Friday 19th June 16:04
Oh ffs, Mac only here

flight147z

974 posts

129 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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alistair1234 said:
Oh ffs, Mac only here
Wahoo computers update automatically over WiFi so wouldn't be an issue on those

smn159

12,649 posts

217 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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alistair1234 said:
Oh ffs, Mac only here
Yes it's a complete pain in the arse. I have a Garmin watch as well and the connection with the Mac is hit and miss at best - sometimes it connects straight away, other times it takes ages.

I lost all of the routes from my 530 when I updated it using the Mac.

ian in lancs

3,772 posts

198 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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i use a mac with a 530 and experienced no issues

Mazinbrum

934 posts

178 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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flight147z said:
Wahoo computers update automatically over WiFi so wouldn't be an issue on those
So does my Garmin 530. Why are people updating them through computers?
I got rid of my Garmin 1000 as the touch screen was crap, bit of a pain setting it up without a touch screen but once that’s done I prefer it.
Only problem me and a mate had with the 530 is that for some reason battery save is enabled when it comes so you think it’s crashed, ok once disabled.

flight147z

974 posts

129 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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Mazinbrum said:
So does my Garmin 530. Why are people updating them through computers?
I got rid of my Garmin 1000 as the touch screen was crap, bit of a pain setting it up without a touch screen but once that’s done I prefer it.
Only problem me and a mate had with the 530 is that for some reason battery save is enabled when it comes so you think it’s crashed, ok once disabled.
Do you have to use a computer for anything with a Garmin then? I would assume not. I've never plugged my Wahoo into a computer and I don't see why you would really need to on a Garmin either unless it was required for updates

My Garmin watch does need to be connected to a computer to be updated as far as I can tell

smn159

12,649 posts

217 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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flight147z said:
Do you have to use a computer for anything with a Garmin then?
Software and map updates

flight147z

974 posts

129 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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smn159 said:
Software and map updates
"Mazinbrum" above thinks not though?

Piginapoke

4,760 posts

185 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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smn159 said:
Yes it's a complete pain in the arse. I have a Garmin watch as well and the connection with the Mac is hit and miss at best - sometimes it connects straight away, other times it takes ages.

I lost all of the routes from my 530 when I updated it using the Mac.
Routes and settings are stored on Garmin Conect, so I can't see how you could lose them

esuuv

1,320 posts

205 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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I've had Garmin for years - Edge 810, 820 and new 830, forerunner 305, 920, 935 and now 945 - I also only have Macs and have never had a problem at all with that side of things - I also can't remember the last time I connected any of them to a computer - they all update over wifi or your phone connection.

Back to the OP's original question - the screen on the 820 was (is) horrible - the direct upgrade is to get an 830 which has a way better interface / touchscreen. The 530 is basically the same but with buttons - not a touchscreen.

smn159

12,649 posts

217 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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flight147z said:
smn159 said:
Software and map updates
"Mazinbrum" above thinks not though?
Maybe he's right then. Garmin Express via a Mac screwed it up and I had to do a factory reset

Mazinbrum

934 posts

178 months

Saturday 20th June 2020
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smn159 said:
Maybe he's right then. Garmin Express via a Mac screwed it up and I had to do a factory reset
The only time I plug mine in to my iMac is if I’ve downloaded a route from Strava to use. Never plugged it into a ‘PC’ and it updates and uploads my rides over wifi.