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Julian Scott said:
Picking up on the 1,500 cal/day comments.
Even a BMR of that level would be low, unless you are very overweight and really target caloric deficit.
I had my stats done last week. Even at 61.5kg my BMR is 1647.
Did you mean underweight? BMR increases with weight.Even a BMR of that level would be low, unless you are very overweight and really target caloric deficit.
I had my stats done last week. Even at 61.5kg my BMR is 1647.
I did a BMR estimation here: https://www.calculator.net/bmr-calculator.html
Apparently BMR = 1,640 Calories/day (weight ~ 73kg, 39 y/o, 176cm)
Daily calorie needs based on activity level
Activity Level Calorie
Sedentary: little or no exercise 1,968
Exercise 1-3 times/week 2,255
Exercise 4-5 times/week 2,403
Daily exercise or intense exercise 3-4 times/week 2,542
Intense exercise 6-7 times/week 2,829
Very intense exercise daily, or physical job 3,116
The 1520 aim given by myfitnesspal was assuming no exercise with a view to trying to lose 0.5kg/week IIRC.
I'm not bothered by the weight loss, it's the fat loss I'm interested in. As mentioned, also doing upper body strength, so expect to gain weight through muscle mass.
g3org3y said:
Did you mean underweight? BMR increases with weight.
I did a BMR estimation here: https://www.calculator.net/bmr-calculator.html
Apparently BMR = 1,640 Calories/day (weight ~ 73kg, 39 y/o, 176cm)
Daily calorie needs based on activity level
Activity Level Calorie
Sedentary: little or no exercise 1,968
Exercise 1-3 times/week 2,255
Exercise 4-5 times/week 2,403
Daily exercise or intense exercise 3-4 times/week 2,542
Intense exercise 6-7 times/week 2,829
Very intense exercise daily, or physical job 3,116
The 1520 aim given by myfitnesspal was assuming no exercise with a view to trying to lose 0.5kg/week IIRC.
I'm not bothered by the weight loss, it's the fat loss I'm interested in. As mentioned, also doing upper body strength, so expect to gain weight through muscle mass.
Sorry, I missed a bit out...I did a BMR estimation here: https://www.calculator.net/bmr-calculator.html
Apparently BMR = 1,640 Calories/day (weight ~ 73kg, 39 y/o, 176cm)
Daily calorie needs based on activity level
Activity Level Calorie
Sedentary: little or no exercise 1,968
Exercise 1-3 times/week 2,255
Exercise 4-5 times/week 2,403
Daily exercise or intense exercise 3-4 times/week 2,542
Intense exercise 6-7 times/week 2,829
Very intense exercise daily, or physical job 3,116
The 1520 aim given by myfitnesspal was assuming no exercise with a view to trying to lose 0.5kg/week IIRC.
I'm not bothered by the weight loss, it's the fat loss I'm interested in. As mentioned, also doing upper body strength, so expect to gain weight through muscle mass.
Even a BMR of that level would be low, even very low as a calorie-controlling target unless you are very overweight and really target caloric deficit.
I had my stats done last week. Even at 61.5kg my BMR is 1647.
As for that BMR calc link, I'd suggest it was a little under given it only uses very basic data. I put my stats in and it came up as 1,400 calories.
But you are right, fat mass, body fat % and muscle mass are greater indicators.....but the best indicator of all....how your clothes feel on!
Julian Scott said:
Sorry, I missed a bit out...
Even a BMR of that level would be low, even very low as a calorie-controlling target unless you are very overweight and really target caloric deficit.
I had my stats done last week. Even at 61.5kg my BMR is 1647.
As for that BMR calc link, I'd suggest it was a little under given it only uses very basic data. I put my stats in and it came up as 1,400 calories.
But you are right, fat mass, body fat % and muscle mass are greater indicators.....but the best indicator of all....how your clothes feel on!
Even a BMR of that level would be low, even very low as a calorie-controlling target unless you are very overweight and really target caloric deficit.
I had my stats done last week. Even at 61.5kg my BMR is 1647.
As for that BMR calc link, I'd suggest it was a little under given it only uses very basic data. I put my stats in and it came up as 1,400 calories.
But you are right, fat mass, body fat % and muscle mass are greater indicators.....but the best indicator of all....how your clothes feel on!
What kit did you use for your estimations?
I did an Alex Toussaint 'ride for greatness' 30 min yesterday. Wow, that guy is properly brutal (but motivating). New 30 min PB.
He must attract the motivated/genuinely fit people. Normally I'm around midway on overall leaderboard (sometimes a bit higher) but this time, bottom quartile (and I thought I'd worked bloody hard)!
The ride to greatness classes are heavily promoted on the social media feeds, so a lot of people do them…. Including all the really fit riders who only normally do PZ stuff.
There was one during lock down that had a number of celebrity riders…. Had a separate warm up…massive numbers!
There was one during lock down that had a number of celebrity riders…. Had a separate warm up…massive numbers!
g3org3y said:
I did an Alex Toussaint 'ride for greatness' 30 min yesterday. Wow, that guy is properly brutal (but motivating). New 30 min PB.
He must attract the motivated/genuinely fit people. Normally I'm around midway on overall leaderboard (sometimes a bit higher) but this time, bottom quartile (and I thought I'd worked bloody hard)!
Shows why Peloton has such a range of instructors, did the 30 minute ride, his style isn't for me but clearly lots of people like his approach, I much prefer Christine's approach, 60 minute of PZ is much more my thing He must attract the motivated/genuinely fit people. Normally I'm around midway on overall leaderboard (sometimes a bit higher) but this time, bottom quartile (and I thought I'd worked bloody hard)!
.For what it's worth based on what he was calling our for Resistance and Cadence whilst targeting 200, 220+, than 250+ watts pretty much matched what I was seeing on my bike.
Out of interest my Samsung Watch 4 tells me my BMR hasn't really changed over 12 months, at 1650 kcal with around 5% variation in readings either side. This is despite reasonable changes in body fat composition etc.
gangzoom said:
g3org3y said:
I did an Alex Toussaint 'ride for greatness' 30 min yesterday. Wow, that guy is properly brutal (but motivating). New 30 min PB.
He must attract the motivated/genuinely fit people. Normally I'm around midway on overall leaderboard (sometimes a bit higher) but this time, bottom quartile (and I thought I'd worked bloody hard)!
Shows why Peloton has such a range of instructors, did the 30 minute ride, his style isn't for me but clearly lots of people like his approach, I much prefer Christine's approach, 60 minute of PZ is much more my thing He must attract the motivated/genuinely fit people. Normally I'm around midway on overall leaderboard (sometimes a bit higher) but this time, bottom quartile (and I thought I'd worked bloody hard)!
.For what it's worth based on what he was calling our for Resistance and Cadence whilst targeting 200, 220+, than 250+ watts pretty much matched what I was seeing on my bike.
I'm doing well if I'm hitting +200W tbh! Would struggle to sustain for prolonged periods.
As for 60 min PZ rides!? Something I think I'll need to build up to ([b]far[b/] in the future).
I've done a few 'long' rides 45-60 mins, those free cycling though a town listening to a podcast on my headphones (Annecy is very nice!). V leisurely pace, but better than sitting on the sofa.
Also found another good dance music Ben Aldis 20 min session 10/1/23
Music Sounds Better With You (Radio Edit) Stardust, Stardust
Around the World (Radio Edit) Daft Punk
You Got the Love (feat. The Source) Candi Staton, The Source
9 PM (Till I Come) (Radio Edit) ATB
Insomnia (Radio Edit) Faithless
Praise You Fatboy Slim
9 week stretch at the mo.
g3org3y said:
Julian Scott said:
Sorry, I missed a bit out...
Even a BMR of that level would be low, even very low as a calorie-controlling target unless you are very overweight and really target caloric deficit.
I had my stats done last week. Even at 61.5kg my BMR is 1647.
As for that BMR calc link, I'd suggest it was a little under given it only uses very basic data. I put my stats in and it came up as 1,400 calories.
But you are right, fat mass, body fat % and muscle mass are greater indicators.....but the best indicator of all....how your clothes feel on!
Even a BMR of that level would be low, even very low as a calorie-controlling target unless you are very overweight and really target caloric deficit.
I had my stats done last week. Even at 61.5kg my BMR is 1647.
As for that BMR calc link, I'd suggest it was a little under given it only uses very basic data. I put my stats in and it came up as 1,400 calories.
But you are right, fat mass, body fat % and muscle mass are greater indicators.....but the best indicator of all....how your clothes feel on!
What kit did you use for your estimations?
Chris Stott said:
I reckon I’ve done most, if not all of Ben’s 20/30 min classes that are dance/house music based.
AT’s not for me… too shouty! I’m well able to get myself to a near death state on the bike without anyone shouting at me like a drill instructor
AT’s not for me… too shouty! I’m well able to get myself to a near death state on the bike without anyone shouting at me like a drill instructor
I need motivation. Julian Scott said:
PT did it at the gym. Scales, Callipers, Body Circumference Measurements then the use of a Bioelectrical Impedance Analysis Machine.
Ah, done properly. My estimations from Smart Scale. Apparently 23.3% body fat (was 25.4). Looking at photos online, seems like an over-estimation to me (but I would say that
)...at least on the downward trend.cerb4.5lee said:
g3org3y said:
9 week stretch at the mo.
I'm currently on a 33 week streak, but I've got some holidays coming up soon...so I will lose it. Chris Stott said:
Do a run or a walk… or some yoga.
Walking is a great way to keep your calories burning.
Have you ever done any of the meditation seesions?Walking is a great way to keep your calories burning.
So, I'll get it out there first that i'm not very fit so would definitely be classed as a beginner.
I'm on a 8 week stretch of cycling, mostly 20 min beginner and 30 min adv beginner rides.
How am I meant to be reading the stats from the rides? Which of the readings are the ones to go for? eg my first adv beg ride was on 03/01/23, my output (i think it is) was 167 with a strive score of 21.9. Next one was on 23/02/23, output 199, strive 31. Then, today's ride output 200, strive 40.3.
The rides in between show figures that vary with output and strive being between 188 - 205 and strive score varying quite a bit between 31 - 45.
If my output is around the same, if I was getting fitter, shouldn't my strive score be getting lower? or am I overthinking it, different days, different classes etc and just keep going with it all?
I'm on a 8 week stretch of cycling, mostly 20 min beginner and 30 min adv beginner rides.
How am I meant to be reading the stats from the rides? Which of the readings are the ones to go for? eg my first adv beg ride was on 03/01/23, my output (i think it is) was 167 with a strive score of 21.9. Next one was on 23/02/23, output 199, strive 31. Then, today's ride output 200, strive 40.3.
The rides in between show figures that vary with output and strive being between 188 - 205 and strive score varying quite a bit between 31 - 45.
If my output is around the same, if I was getting fitter, shouldn't my strive score be getting lower? or am I overthinking it, different days, different classes etc and just keep going with it all?
Watts going up for similar or lower heart rate is what increasing fitness is.
Upon googling it looks like strive is just some random HR thing. Probably over complicated - if there’s normal HR readings you can trend against power you’ll soon tell.
Obviously the type of ride will have a bearing on things so best to compare like with like in terms of session.
Upon googling it looks like strive is just some random HR thing. Probably over complicated - if there’s normal HR readings you can trend against power you’ll soon tell.
Obviously the type of ride will have a bearing on things so best to compare like with like in terms of session.
nordboy said:
So, I'll get it out there first that i'm not very fit so would definitely be classed as a beginner.
I'm on a 8 week stretch of cycling, mostly 20 min beginner and 30 min adv beginner rides.
How am I meant to be reading the stats from the rides? Which of the readings are the ones to go for? eg my first adv beg ride was on 03/01/23, my output (i think it is) was 167 with a strive score of 21.9. Next one was on 23/02/23, output 199, strive 31. Then, today's ride output 200, strive 40.3.
The rides in between show figures that vary with output and strive being between 188 - 205 and strive score varying quite a bit between 31 - 45.
If my output is around the same, if I was getting fitter, shouldn't my strive score be getting lower? or am I overthinking it, different days, different classes etc and just keep going with it all?
Output (either ave watts or KJ) are what I use to judge effort. I'm on a 8 week stretch of cycling, mostly 20 min beginner and 30 min adv beginner rides.
How am I meant to be reading the stats from the rides? Which of the readings are the ones to go for? eg my first adv beg ride was on 03/01/23, my output (i think it is) was 167 with a strive score of 21.9. Next one was on 23/02/23, output 199, strive 31. Then, today's ride output 200, strive 40.3.
The rides in between show figures that vary with output and strive being between 188 - 205 and strive score varying quite a bit between 31 - 45.
If my output is around the same, if I was getting fitter, shouldn't my strive score be getting lower? or am I overthinking it, different days, different classes etc and just keep going with it all?
Although I wear a HR monitor, I don’t take any notice of the strive score… you could do one ride at the top of zone 3 and the next at the bottom of zone 4 and get massively different strive scores with an ave HR only a couple of beats different…. It’s not a linear scale.
I split my classes in to two…
1. 45/60 min PZ based, where I’m not really that interested in the output as I’m not working at anywhere near my max.
2. 20/30 min music/interval/climbs/tabatta, where I am interested in output as I am working as hard as my body/mind allows at that time.
Ideally, I’d like to see my output in the 2nd group at or around my FTP… variance depends on how I’ve fuelled, time of day, what other exercise I’ve done, what work I’ve been doing… how I feel on the day. There are good days and bad days.
For example… on a 30 min class, my base expectation is 400kj/225w… less than this would indicate a poor ride, above that a decent one. Above 425 would be very good, 450 is close to PB. So I’m always trying to be within a bit over 10% of my limit.
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