2012 Santa Pod Main Event (1-4 June)
Discussion
crikey said:
firewalker said:
crikey said:
You weren't the first, hence the wording in the first line of my second paragraph.
If you voice your opinion then expect it to be challenged. If you don't like it being challenged then don't post it.
I'm cool with reasonable discussion and counter statements, not so with insults, put-downs and tantrums.If you voice your opinion then expect it to be challenged. If you don't like it being challenged then don't post it.
Back to Topic please...
"Or do you want to stop that too because it's "at the expense of racing" ? when I hadn't said I wanted to stop a damn thing.
Hat rack.
Insults? 'blinkered', 'selfish' 'whining'.
As said before, your childish quibbles are detrimental to the forum. I come here to discuss, feedback and mostly learn about drag racing and have graciously skipped your abrasive postings by default based on past experience.
Obviously you can't help yourself but understand I (and likely others) really really can't be arsed with you and your issues so I'll revert to ignoring your posts and you can leave off jumping on and twisting mine.
I'd also feel happier about spending my time and cash at the Pod if they instated people with better PR skills though fortunately I do acknowledge you are a pretty isolated case.
Apologies to other forum users for this intervention - done.
firewalker said:
I recall track staff citing about 300+ races in a day on one occassion, an FIA event. That wouldn't have included exhibition stuff like jet cars, rocket bikes, 2 seater dragsters etc.
I think you will find that the 2 seater daragster was on most occasions burning out and running whilst the TF dragsters and TMD were lining up, and also how much time does it take, 2 minutes?? I will time it next time im guiding Steve back from his time consuming burnout.tlrracer said:
firewalker said:
I recall track staff citing about 300+ races in a day on one occassion, an FIA event. That wouldn't have included exhibition stuff like jet cars, rocket bikes, 2 seater dragsters etc.
I think you will find that the 2 seater daragster was on most occasions burning out and running whilst the TF dragsters and TMD were lining up, and also how much time does it take, 2 minutes?? I will time it next time im guiding Steve back from his time consuming burnout.At no point was I suggesting they weren't a welcome part of the events and the quoted piece above (made prior to the event) was to suggest to a newbie that there's more on offer to compliment the racing as an encouragement.
This is of particular interest when 'spreading the word', newbies are quite partial to the exhibition stuff in my experience. So I'm pitching the exhibition stuff to people then being accused of criticism for it? Hmmm right-oh.
At no point did I criticise the running decisions made by SPR at the main event at the weekend, the contrary in fact.
For the record I'm a big Eric Teboul fan and never miss his runs and am also quite partial to the flyovers.
Trying to look at the arguments from a neutral perspective. I was at the main Event on Saturday and Monday roughly from 0815 until 02100 on both days. What I saw was very impressive if a little frustrating due to the weather. What we have on here is a mixture of racers, officials, well meaning fans and unfortunately some antagonistic idiots who seem hell bent on expressing deliberatley negative and inflamatory views.
Personally I think we are lucky to have the likes of Graham, Andy F and John B on this forum to give the rest of us a unique drivers view of events. I have never understood why people refuse to use their real names or at least reveal who they are and I consider it to be a wimpish and cowardly form of expression.
Back on topic, I share some of the frustrations regarding Licencing and side attractions, but fully understand why they had to happen. It is good that we now have another fully licenced TF pilot and frankly I have no problem with the 2 seater, because it runs like clockwork and takes very little time. The air display element can run with track action, although a Vulcan display would be the pinacle and worth the admission alone.
Personally I think we are lucky to have the likes of Graham, Andy F and John B on this forum to give the rest of us a unique drivers view of events. I have never understood why people refuse to use their real names or at least reveal who they are and I consider it to be a wimpish and cowardly form of expression.
Back on topic, I share some of the frustrations regarding Licencing and side attractions, but fully understand why they had to happen. It is good that we now have another fully licenced TF pilot and frankly I have no problem with the 2 seater, because it runs like clockwork and takes very little time. The air display element can run with track action, although a Vulcan display would be the pinacle and worth the admission alone.
firewalker said:
Reasoned? Don't think so, all that crap about 'whining' (I think you'd find I praised the event at length) and slipping in the jet car as part of your argument which hadn't even been mentioned nor was I saying that the sideshows were a "bad thing".
"Or do you want to stop that too because it's "at the expense of racing" ? when I hadn't said I wanted to stop a damn thing.
Hat rack.
Insults? 'blinkered', 'selfish' 'whining'.
As said before, your childish quibbles are detrimental to the forum. I come here to discuss, feedback and mostly learn about drag racing and have graciously skipped your abrasive postings by default based on past experience.
Obviously you can't help yourself but understand I (and likely others) really really can't be arsed with you and your issues so I'll revert to ignoring your posts and you can leave off jumping on and twisting mine.
I'd also feel happier about spending my time and cash at the Pod if they instated people with better PR skills though fortunately I do acknowledge you are a pretty isolated case.
Apologies to other forum users for this intervention - done.
Astoundingly deluded. "Or do you want to stop that too because it's "at the expense of racing" ? when I hadn't said I wanted to stop a damn thing.
Hat rack.
Insults? 'blinkered', 'selfish' 'whining'.
As said before, your childish quibbles are detrimental to the forum. I come here to discuss, feedback and mostly learn about drag racing and have graciously skipped your abrasive postings by default based on past experience.
Obviously you can't help yourself but understand I (and likely others) really really can't be arsed with you and your issues so I'll revert to ignoring your posts and you can leave off jumping on and twisting mine.
I'd also feel happier about spending my time and cash at the Pod if they instated people with better PR skills though fortunately I do acknowledge you are a pretty isolated case.
Apologies to other forum users for this intervention - done.
Here's some photos from Saturday to look at if you can all manage to stop bickering for 5 minutes.
And well done Andy, only saw the 6.71 but its great that all the hard work is paying off
http://rdsmith.zenfolio.com/mainevent2012
Cheers,
Richard
And well done Andy, only saw the 6.71 but its great that all the hard work is paying off
http://rdsmith.zenfolio.com/mainevent2012
Cheers,
Richard
Back on topic, I share some of the frustrations regarding Licencing and side attractions, but fully understand why they had to happen. It is good that we now have another fully licenced TF pilot and frankly I have no problem with the 2 seater, because it runs like clockwork and takes very little time. The air display element can run with track action, although a Vulcan display would be the pinacle and worth the admission alone.
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Vulcan Display, now you are talking!
I think you will find that the 2 seater daragster was on most occasions burning out and running whilst the TF dragsters and TMD were lining up, and also how much time does it take, 2 minutes?? I will time it next time im guiding Steve back from his time consuming burnout.
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John
ask Steve to get his act together and tailgate the fuel car up the track
I know his answer!
Steve Young
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John
ask Steve to get his act together and tailgate the fuel car up the track
I know his answer!
Steve Young
firewalker said:
Natural disasters (ie. weather and clean ups) aside, the worst time-drain (competition-wise) was on races that had to be re-run due to the flakey timing equipment first time out, which then changed the competition ladder.
Hope Steve Hall wasn't too gutted.
Stop trying to push buttons you clown, you have no idea what you're talking about. Hope Steve Hall wasn't too gutted.
Turbobird1 said:
maybe steve was but i wasnt
Nor were the spectators! Great pair of runs and a weekend highlight, in fact the only memorable PM run I've seen to match it was Matt and Andy Robinsons race to the first PM 5, but this was different again for the turbo factor and street legal status of RV. It would have happened wether a re-run or not I daresay and I tip my hat to both cars/teams. Superb.Here's to your first 5.
crikey said:
firewalker said:
Natural disasters (ie. weather and clean ups) aside, the worst time-drain (competition-wise) was on races that had to be re-run due to the flakey timing equipment first time out, which then changed the competition ladder.
Hope Steve Hall wasn't too gutted.
Stop trying to push buttons you clown, you have no idea what you're talking about. Hope Steve Hall wasn't too gutted.
Mah-nah Mah-nah.
firewalker said:
crikey said:
firewalker said:
Natural disasters (ie. weather and clean ups) aside, the worst time-drain (competition-wise) was on races that had to be re-run due to the flakey timing equipment first time out, which then changed the competition ladder.
Hope Steve Hall wasn't too gutted.
Stop trying to push buttons you clown, you have no idea what you're talking about. Hope Steve Hall wasn't too gutted.
Mah-nah Mah-nah.
Stop trying to provoke an argument.
crikey said:
firewalker said:
crikey said:
firewalker said:
Natural disasters (ie. weather and clean ups) aside, the worst time-drain (competition-wise) was on races that had to be re-run due to the flakey timing equipment first time out, which then changed the competition ladder.
Hope Steve Hall wasn't too gutted.
Stop trying to push buttons you clown, you have no idea what you're talking about. Hope Steve Hall wasn't too gutted.
Mah-nah Mah-nah.
Stop trying to provoke an argument.
As for 'no idea', contributions thus far suggest I know more than I need to (and some I haven't gone into) and you less. Would you or anyone care to elaborate on the problem?
I doubt very much that any racers would seek to take advantage of the situation so impact was minimal but evident and potential nonetheless.
With the paying eyes of the world on Europes premier drag strip at its FIA Main Event under duress of available time there are those of us in geekdom that are interested.
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