Honda Civic Type S EP3 - Any good?

Honda Civic Type S EP3 - Any good?

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CHIEF

Original Poster:

2,270 posts

282 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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A whole back I looked at buying an Accord 2.0 Vtec as my daily smoker.

At the time I looked at a Civic Type S but dismissed it as it looked quite bland and I thought it wouldn't be roomy enough.

Well a lad at work has just thrown a spanner in the works buy buying a CTR and letting me have a sit in it.

I couldn't believe how much room they have inside I was very impressed.

The Type S i've been looking at seem quite pokey (Though nowhere near CTR quick) reliable and practical although boring to look at.

Has anyone owned one of these cars, What are they like i.e performance, handling, running costs etc.

I'm looking at the EP3 version btw.

Cheers.

  • i'll probably change my mind again in a week.

Wheeler88

36 posts

139 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Hi,

All I can say is, providing the funds stretch, get the Type R. I have a friend that bought the Type S and regrets getting that over the R on a daily basis!

I have owned my Type R for 4 weeks now and I absolutely love it! By far the funnest car I have driven and practical too! The speed of the thing is amazing providing you know how to work the gearbox effectively and when you hit VTEC, the car shudders and takes off like a rocket!!!

I would honestly say save up the extra and get yourself a Type R. There is nothing more rewarding than pulling up at traffic lights next to a smug BMW driver and leaving them disgruntled as you disappear into the distance!

Oh and the Cosmic Grey ones are the fastest laugh

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Get a Type R if the funds will stretch. Oh, a Type S is not an EP3 either, it's an EP2. The EP3 code refers only to the Type R model.

The Type S is a warmed-over hatch back, not really a proper hot hatch. The engine and gearbox in particular just aren't a patch on the Type R.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Friday 8th November 2013
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The Type S is only available as a 5 door version as well, great for loading kids in but it also makes the car look like a stodgy old MPV compared to the 3 door.

dandemoraliser

75 posts

179 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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As above, engine hasn't the outright punch of the ep3 (as above type s is ep2)

Mind gearbox was and still is very good and come on five door for practicality and cheap insurance!

Shotgun Rider

816 posts

170 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
The Type S is only available as a 5 door version as well, great for loading kids in but it also makes the car look like a stodgy old MPV compared to the 3 door.
The Type S is any 3 door car that isn't a Type R, it's available as a 1.4, 1.8 and 2.2 diesel. It's not a 5 door.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Thursday 21st November 2013
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Shotgun Rider said:
The Type S is any 3 door car that isn't a Type R, it's available as a 1.4, 1.8 and 2.2 diesel. It's not a 5 door.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. The EP2 Type S was available only as a 5 door, and only with a 2.0L petrol engine.

denzilpc

153 posts

175 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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sorry mate but the type s is a 3 door 2.2 diesel turbo ! i should know i own one.

Deerfoot

4,902 posts

184 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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denzilpc said:
sorry mate but the type s is a 3 door 2.2 diesel turbo ! i should know i own one.
The OP is talking about the Civic ep3.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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denzilpc said:
sorry mate but the type s is a 3 door 2.2 diesel turbo ! i should know i own one.
Honda never made an EP2 Type S with a 2.2 diesel so you don't own one. You may own the later Mk8, but that's clearly not what the OP is talking about.

Shotgun Rider

816 posts

170 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. The EP2 Type S was available only as a 5 door, and only with a 2.0L petrol engine.
My mistake, I was talking about the mk 8.

Shotgun Rider

816 posts

170 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. The EP2 Type S was available only as a 5 door, and only with a 2.0L petrol engine.
My mistake, I was talking about the mk 8.

vtecyo

2,122 posts

129 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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I wouldn't bother personally. You don't get the power or driving fun of an EP3, and you don't get much fuel economy either. Sort of the worst of both worlds..

But it will go on forever if you look after it, and the gearstick is in a nice place!

CHIEF

Original Poster:

2,270 posts

282 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Well I was fortunate to go for a quick spin in my pals Type R.

Lovely built and roomy car and yes its quick but christ you have to work for it, Right at the top end.

Thing is getting a Type R is one thing but my pal tells me the updated model (2004 onwards) has a lighter flywheel and far better steering.

Martin_Hx

3,955 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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CHIEF said:
Well I was fortunate to go for a quick spin in my pals Type R.

Lovely built and roomy car and yes its quick but christ you have to work for it, Right at the top end.

Thing is getting a Type R is one thing but my pal tells me the updated model (2004 onwards) has a lighter flywheel and far better steering.
Thats why the R stands for Racing ! wink

And yes there were a few adjustments don eon the facelift, over 1000 i think Honda said, no idea if its true, only ever driven the facelift !

CHIEF

Original Poster:

2,270 posts

282 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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Martin_Hx said:
Thats why the R stands for Racing ! wink

And yes there were a few adjustments don eon the facelift, over 1000 i think Honda said, no idea if its true, only ever driven the facelift !
Would be interesting to hear from people who have driven the pre 2004 and the facelifted version and if they can in fact tell a difference

I know the steering comes in for criticism but my pal says the steering is a revalation compared to his old wallowy Mk4 Golf TDi

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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CHIEF said:
Well I was fortunate to go for a quick spin in my pals Type R.

Lovely built and roomy car and yes its quick but christ you have to work for it, Right at the top end.

Thing is getting a Type R is one thing but my pal tells me the updated model (2004 onwards) has a lighter flywheel and far better steering.
I think that's optimistic to be honest, the steering is supposed to be better but having driven a 2005 car it felt just as bad as my 53 plate car. In fact I even bought a complete late model rack to go in mine but it offered only marginal improvement. The steering is the only significant issue on an otherwise excellent car IMO, and that can be fixed if you feel motivated enough to convert it to a hydraulic rack from a DC5.

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Friday 22nd November 2013
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CHIEF said:
Well I was fortunate to go for a quick spin in my pals Type R.

Lovely built and roomy car and yes its quick but christ you have to work for it, Right at the top end.

Thing is getting a Type R is one thing but my pal tells me the updated model (2004 onwards) has a lighter flywheel and far better steering.
It does have a lighter flywheel and reports from people who've driven both, at least reports I've read, say the revs do rise and fall quicker with the clutch pedal depressed, and the steering is a bit better. However, facelift or not, you've still got to work for the power. Some people hate it, but I loved it, and tbh the alternative of a turbo hot hatch which dumps all the power on you low down in the rev range is just nowhere near as exciting, and sadly this is pretty much the only choice you've got these days.

CMacC

81 posts

57 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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I know this is an old thread, but thought I'd Resurrect, given that type R prices seem to be going crazy.
What is the difference between the type r and type s engine - and how much work would it take to achieve similar power outputs from the type s engine as the type r?

Karlsruhe

34 posts

57 months

Thursday 23rd April 2020
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Not worth it, will cost you more than the car is worth and that's not including other relevant modifications such as brakes, suspension etc. If you're after similar performance try looking for a Corolla T Sport. Same revvy ethos, chassis not as good but cheaper to upgrade than engine mods from Type S to Type R.