well someone had to try them.Nankang ns-2r + 520hp car =???
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So they do, thanks for the tip. I'm after 225 45 17 to go on my 944T road/race car. Tempted to give them a go, although I can't quite decide whether to spend an extra £200 or so for Dunlop DZ03G which are a known quantity. They need to stand up to a 40 minute race, but I'm thinking the NS2-R 100's should stand up quite well in both wet and dry conditions which would be useful...
So I've taken a punt on a set of the new AR-1 as I took advantage of a bank holiday weekend deal Tegiwa had on...
http://www.nankangtyre.co.uk/performance/motorspor...
Apparently they are comparable to the DZ03G which bodes well indeed, but as a brand new tyre there's no a lot of info on them so I will be a guinea pig to a certain extent. We'll see how they stack up in a 40 minute race on my 280hp 944T
I'll start a new thread in a couple of months time once I've tested them.
http://www.nankangtyre.co.uk/performance/motorspor...
Apparently they are comparable to the DZ03G which bodes well indeed, but as a brand new tyre there's no a lot of info on them so I will be a guinea pig to a certain extent. We'll see how they stack up in a 40 minute race on my 280hp 944T
I'll start a new thread in a couple of months time once I've tested them. Nickjd said:
What size?
This place sells them
MOT Motorsport.
They might have done then, but not for a while now. They sell MRF.This place sells them
MOT Motorsport.
When you read online feedback (for anything, not just tyres) people tend to do it very early on, you do wonder how the product faired long term.
Tyre used was a 180 NS2R 225/45/17 on a Mk3 MX5 so not a very heavy car, about 1100kg (heavy for an MX5!)
We never ran these in very hot conditions, both times about 15'c ambient.
My experience of these is on the first time out on track they were fine, they take a couple of laps to warm up and the rear could step out until they were up to temp, but after that were ok.
Second time out on track on a different date they were pretty useless.
Just very little grip no matter how long we ran them. The suspension setup was the same, but we were softening the damping all day to try and find some grip.
Maybe they would fair better on a hot day.
Another driver who had a similar car was running used 215 ZZRs, he had a go with it and agreed, there was just much less grip.
They're also very noisy on the road, not only normal tyre roar from having a lot of rubber and less groove, but also they make a throbbing noise like a bearing or the diff was on the way out.
They are at least half the cost of any other track tyre out there and it shows, I won't be using them again.
Edited by Evoluzione on Monday 10th May 14:38
Evoluzione said:
I'll edit in what compound later when I see them again (if it's stamped on the sidewall), but AFAIK you can only buy them in one compound now.
No I think NS2R are available in 2 compounds. They have a number printed in the sidewall I think. 120 is soft and 180 medium. ATM said:
Evoluzione said:
I'll edit in what compound later when I see them again (if it's stamped on the sidewall), but AFAIK you can only buy them in one compound now.
No I think NS2R are available in 2 compounds. They have a number printed in the sidewall I think. 120 is soft and 180 medium. Nothing mentioned on Nankangs UK site either.
Also there are no 225/17" available until June anywhere in Europe, which I'm quite glad of now with the way they performed on Friday.
Edited by Evoluzione on Monday 10th May 14:59
ATM said:
Evoluzione said:
I'll edit in what compound later when I see them again (if it's stamped on the sidewall), but AFAIK you can only buy them in one compound now.
No I think NS2R are available in 2 compounds. They have a number printed in the sidewall I think. 120 is soft and 180 medium. They did go on to say they have some more motorsport tyres coming out this year too.
Just to add my experience of them in a FWD road car. My ds5 was understeering on the standard Michelin tyres when I was pushing on and when I swapped to the nankangs it stopped understeering at cornering speeds I'm willing to try on a public road.
I changed them anyway long before they were due as the roadnoise was pretty unbearable for a non performance family wagon.
The other reason I changed them isn't scientific but I had a broken spring and 2 ball joints go during the short time they were fitted so decided the car had dialled in understeer and if the wheels didn't slip then stresses elsewhere might be higher, and the stiff sidewall may transfer more shocks over the rough roads I drive on. Unscientific I know but I changed them out all the same.
I changed them anyway long before they were due as the roadnoise was pretty unbearable for a non performance family wagon.
The other reason I changed them isn't scientific but I had a broken spring and 2 ball joints go during the short time they were fitted so decided the car had dialled in understeer and if the wheels didn't slip then stresses elsewhere might be higher, and the stiff sidewall may transfer more shocks over the rough roads I drive on. Unscientific I know but I changed them out all the same.
Might as well throw my hat in the ring.
I really like these tyres. Really like them. I'd never really considered them until relatively recently. A chap on here was asking about them as a fast road tyre so I did some reading. Ended up putting four on only a month or so ago.
In that time they have done a 200 odd mile run on b roads followed by the NC500 ( 2 weeks ago). For a fast road tyre I think they are ideal. They are a track semi slick so they do need warmed. Plenty of long sweeping corners up in the highlands where you could feel the car move, warmed that was reducing noticeably.
Very fast turn in, composed and hardly any movement , they certainly feel like they compliment a good chassis. Whilst they are marked as track capable, no question there are much faster track tyres around, however, what you do get is decent wet grip.
Scotland recently proved this again when on day 3 of the tour we had snow through the higher hills. Thankfully it wasn't covering the roads at 4 degrees C.
80 mph, long straight, pockets of standing water around, stopping power very good, ABS only with quite hard pedal application. Happy with that.
Would I put these on my daily (s)? No. No way. Too harsh a ride and very noisy. Even my son noticed this when we collected the car ( he's 5).
However, ( and this is the winner) at £85 a tyre vs £140 ish for a Cup 2, it's a bargain.
180 TW, I believe the 100 are no longer made as I guess Nankang are pushing the AR1 ( 100TW) instead.
( Car on NC500 - Evo 6)
I really like these tyres. Really like them. I'd never really considered them until relatively recently. A chap on here was asking about them as a fast road tyre so I did some reading. Ended up putting four on only a month or so ago.
In that time they have done a 200 odd mile run on b roads followed by the NC500 ( 2 weeks ago). For a fast road tyre I think they are ideal. They are a track semi slick so they do need warmed. Plenty of long sweeping corners up in the highlands where you could feel the car move, warmed that was reducing noticeably.
Very fast turn in, composed and hardly any movement , they certainly feel like they compliment a good chassis. Whilst they are marked as track capable, no question there are much faster track tyres around, however, what you do get is decent wet grip.
Scotland recently proved this again when on day 3 of the tour we had snow through the higher hills. Thankfully it wasn't covering the roads at 4 degrees C.
80 mph, long straight, pockets of standing water around, stopping power very good, ABS only with quite hard pedal application. Happy with that.
Would I put these on my daily (s)? No. No way. Too harsh a ride and very noisy. Even my son noticed this when we collected the car ( he's 5).
However, ( and this is the winner) at £85 a tyre vs £140 ish for a Cup 2, it's a bargain.
180 TW, I believe the 100 are no longer made as I guess Nankang are pushing the AR1 ( 100TW) instead.
( Car on NC500 - Evo 6)
I went with these because you can no longer get AD08R, just the RS and the NS2-R was supposed to be the poor mans version. They seem very similar on the road with the rock hard ride due to sidewalls and about just as noisy. Cost was pretty decent at about 400 for a double staggered set.
Have yet to try them out on track but, hopefully in the next month or so I'll be able to get out.
Have yet to try them out on track but, hopefully in the next month or so I'll be able to get out.
Just given my experience of NS-2R on another thread before I got to this:-
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I'm a fan!
But as others have noted, I forgot to say, they are rock hard on the road, although I have adaptable shocks, so can counter a bit. Also make thundering noise on the motorway and have a fair bit of roar generally, but I can forive all of that, my car is so loud it's barely noticeable.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I'm a fan!
But as others have noted, I forgot to say, they are rock hard on the road, although I have adaptable shocks, so can counter a bit. Also make thundering noise on the motorway and have a fair bit of roar generally, but I can forive all of that, my car is so loud it's barely noticeable.
Edited by handbraketurn on Friday 14th May 20:33
Evoluzione said:
You also forgot to say what you were comparing them to:
I was trying to say that I haven't had any other track tyres on my car to compare them to to say other alternatives are better, but compared to using a road tyres, Michelin PS4S, there is a stark improvement on track. handbraketurn said:
I've not had anything better on my current car to compare them with, but I've been super impressed with them over road tyres (PS4S), which I started with.
Cheers,
I’ve been using these for a few years, first in 120TW guise and currently 180TW, they are decent enough but their operating window isn’t brilliant, usually takes a lap to get up to temp, 3-4 good laps then they are in need of cooling. They are pretty decent in the wet though, I actually now run a set of Dunlop slicks in the dry and these in the wet.
When it comes to replacing them though, I’ll be looking at something else entirely. The low cost is their biggest attribute IMO
When it comes to replacing them though, I’ll be looking at something else entirely. The low cost is their biggest attribute IMO
Not a fan. Ran them in my 1250kg m3 years ago and lacked grip and felt indirect. Lasted forever. Completely inferior to the v70a and even 595rsr.
Years later Tried em again on my c63 which resulted in catastrophic understeer. I only put fronts on and left some old conti road tyres on the rear. Moved the tyres to my z4m which again cause massive understeer even with road falkens on the rear.
Binned them now for a set of cup 2’s which are amazing in comparison. Thousand times better dry performance. Wet performance low road noise. Twice the price but way more than twice the performance and doesn’t ruin the cars handling.
Years later Tried em again on my c63 which resulted in catastrophic understeer. I only put fronts on and left some old conti road tyres on the rear. Moved the tyres to my z4m which again cause massive understeer even with road falkens on the rear.
Binned them now for a set of cup 2’s which are amazing in comparison. Thousand times better dry performance. Wet performance low road noise. Twice the price but way more than twice the performance and doesn’t ruin the cars handling.
Edited by e46m3c on Saturday 22 May 10:20
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