Nurburgring Tourist day car rules

[JayK12]

Guys,

I have a new track and planning going to the ring on a tourist day. Last track car I took on DN rather than tourist as it wasn't road legal, this one is and the dates work better for me.

The car has these seats with door bars:




I've heard various things about winged seats bring banned and un-padded cages, along with cages with door bars.

Can anyone shed some light on this?

Thanks
Jay

[agtlaw]

The rules (March 2016 edition):

http://www.nuerburgring.de/fileadmin/Touristenfahr...

[Blaster72]

agtlaw said:

The rules (March 2016 edition):

http://www.nuerburgring.de/fileadmin/Touristenfahr...

Sounds like you're out of luck OP with the unpadded cage and bucket seats.

This one I found interesting, I haven't been for a few years but never had to show and insurance proof at all in the times I visited.

If they enforce the below, I can't see that many UK cars being allowed out.

[nickfrog]

Why ? UK cars are still technically insured irrespective of subsequent action from the insurers to recoup claim settlements for breach of T&Cs.

[foxsasha]

Full bucket seats not allowed. Why would that be?

[Hi]

foxsasha said:

Full bucket seats not allowed. Why would that be?

Visibility is partially blocked for the driver in a bucket seat with wings.

The door bars aren't allowed as it could make it harder for someone to get out of a car once it has crashed.

[JayK12]

Thanks guys, I can pad the cage out, and I have non winged bucket seats from the last car. I'm not sure how easily the door bars come out.

The door bars are same height as the bucket seat, so doesn't make it harder to get out.

Car is fully insured for road. Only issue is door bars.

[nickfrog]

By fully insured, I assume you mean technically insured but that in effect you will have no cover, and in particular for third party liability.

[JayK12]

Yup like 99% of the UK drivers on the ring.

Just seen the door bars are welded. So probably no tourist days. Will have to see if my I can fit DN in September.

[nickfrog]

JayK12 said:

Yup like 99% of the UK drivers on the ring.

Safety in numbers!

[agtlaw]

nickfrog said:

...subsequent action from the insurers to recoup claim settlements for breach of T&Cs.

It's 2016. Does that still happen?

[nickfrog]

Why would it stop ? If they can recover money, which they can, why wouldn't it continue ?

Edited by nickfrog on Monday 9th May 17:39

[agtlaw]

nickfrog said:

Why would it stop ? If they can recover money, which they can, why wouldn't it continue ?

Edited by nickfrog on Monday 9th May 17:39

I wondered if you actually knew of anyone being sued in 2016, or is it that you're just repeating something you read on the internet a few years ago and haven't kept up to date with developments at the ECJ?

[nickfrog]

agtlaw said:

nickfrog said:

Why would it stop ? If they can recover money, which they can, why wouldn't it continue ?

Edited by nickfrog on Monday 9th May 17:39

I wondered if you actually knew of anyone being sued in 2016, or is it that you're just repeating something you read on the internet a few years ago and haven't kept up to date with developments at the ECJ?

Why don't you share said developments as opposed to go rhetorical ?

agtlaw said:

It's 2016. Does that still happen?

Keep it simple.

You could have gone something like : Nick, we're in luck, things are progressing. Here's a link: .....

[agtlaw]

I'm genuinely interested to hear if anyone in 2016 is being sued by an insurer. Email me if you want to keep it off the forum.

The risk of legal action is greatly exaggerated by nickfrog (and others). Posting the pre-2014 position you read on the internet isn't particularly interesting.

[nickfrog]

How can I exaggerate a risk that I didn't quantify?
What are you on about pre-2014? If my understanding of the current state of play is obsolete, then that's fantastic, but please share with us those developments (for the second time of politely asking). No need to be cryptic or send email : give it to us straight, pretty please.

[nickfrog]

Still waiting for details about the post-2014 position please ?

[foxsasha]

Hi said:

Visibility is partially blocked for the driver in a bucket seat with wings.

The door bars aren't allowed as it could make it harder for someone to get out of a car once it has crashed.

So full bucket being one with wings, a normal bucket being ok? I read a full bucket seat to be one without a reclining back. Wonder how well they actually manage the clauses.

[JayK12]

As anyone actually been stopped without cage padding and with door bars? Do they actually check cars?

As said i can take the seats out and swap for none winged ones, and padding the cage, but i don't fancy grinding the door bar brackets off.

[Pdelamare]

nickfrog said:

Still waiting for details about the post-2014 position please ?

I too would appreciate seeing any information that states the exact position regarding insurance and liabilities. I'd love to do a TF but just can't get past the 3rd party risk element.