Lap times for Bedford GT circuit

[Trotmant]

Hi was at Bedford recently and ran the GT circuit in a Cilo R27 managed to get round in 3:15:57.

As a reference point I wanted to know how slow that is off the best that been achieved either in the same fwd class or car.

Having looked online can only find times for shorter west circuit which are not comparable.

didn't know if there was a forum or link to a formal time page.

Thanks Tom

[MR2_SC]

I can't help with FWD times but there's some fairly long straights so I assume power will make a fair difference at Bedford.

The other challenge you'll find with comparing lap times is that the layout was apparently changed not that long ago with an extra chicane before the back straight. So you need to make sure it's the right GT layout.

Anyway, for what it's worth, I went there for the first time in my vx220 earlier this year and my best laps were around 2m50s.

https://youtu.be/TDmfbQkZhk4

[Trotmant]

Thanks for the info. Yeah the straights give window to more powerful motors, ran my Cayman GTS last year and it was eating up most of the track.

Hopefully someone will come along with some FWD HH times.

Nice lap btw

[timmmmm]

I have done a 3:04 in my civic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6biN9af4k

[McSam]

Again not all that comparable to your car, but my fairly standard E36 328i does 3'02 - 3'04s. To be honest, since I still have an open diff I'm not really getting much advantage over a FWD car on a circuit like Bedford.. There's only three corners I feel comparatively held back in a good FWD car, the rest is down to power to weight and tyres.

[Chr1sch]

I did a 3:03 in my 306 GTi6 (trying a bit too hard at times lol) (its not standard in terms of suspension/tyres etc) but engine is bar exhaust (170bhp)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7S5TMZi9Ks

[git-r]

I think the circuit may have changed slightly since this thread started but my 30 year old Datsun did 2:40 on Monday. Wasn’t sure if I should be happy with that or not but found this thread so pretty chuffed with the geriatric rust bucket

It’s full weight/1496kg with fuel
470bhp @ hubs
Yokohama AD08R’s
Uprated suspension and brakes

https://youtu.be/6ImYMgUExmY

[deadscoob]

Nicely done

Nice and empty too!

[git-r]

deadscoob said:

Nicely done

Nice and empty too!

Thank you. Yes it was nice and quiet, weather good too

[nickfrog]

git-r said:

I think the circuit may have changed slightly since this thread started but my 30 year old Datsun did 2:40 on Monday. Wasn’t sure if I should be happy with that or not but found this thread so pretty chuffed with the geriatric rust bucket

It’s full weight/1496kg with fuel
470bhp @ hubs
Yokohama AD08R’s
Uprated suspension and brakes

https://youtu.be/6ImYMgUExmY

Great lap and you almost respected JP's grass !!

I like your entry into the first chicane where you brake after the initial turn-in, a lot of people do the opposite.

[Humour]

MR2_SC said:

Anyway, for what it's worth, I went there for the first time in my vx220 earlier this year and my best laps were around 2m50s.

https://youtu.be/TDmfbQkZhk4

Ha, we were on the same TD in march 16. I noticed our green e36 in the vid lol

Out of curiosity what was the power to weight of your vx220 at the time and what tyres and brakes were you using during that session?

Our best times on GT layout are from 2017 utilising conti sport contact 5 used tyres, 225/45/17 all around and CL5+ pads on standard disks and calipers, mangaging mid 2:50's on clear laps. In 2016 iirc the tyres were sport contact 2's used again (pretty old tyres tbh) and ebc blue pads, then we were in the 3:00~3:04 range on clear laps. This is always 2up in the car, so 80~90kg ballast every time.

In my opinion, tyres and brakes as well as suspension make a noticable difference in lap times, I get that there are long straights but there are many corners which cam be attacked if the car is planted underneath you.

[R8Steve]

2 mins 49 seconds I managed in my Clio

[CrashBang]

R8Steve said:

2 mins 49 seconds I managed in my Clio

This is quick, tyres? Power to weight?

Bedford benefits big power due the amount of straights, the fact that they all come after slow corners and the fact one of them is 1km long.

If your not running circa 350+ BHP and/or have a sticky tyre / slick shodden stripped out sudo race car sub 3 minutes is better than average, particularly as getting a clean lap is difficult.

[R8Steve]

CrashBang said:

R8Steve said:

2 mins 49 seconds I managed in my Clio

This is quick, tyres? Power to weight?

Bedford benefits big power due the amount of straights, the fact that they all come after slow corners and the fact one of them is 1km long.

If your not running circa 350+ BHP and/or have a sticky tyre / slick shodden stripped out sudo race car sub 3 minutes is better than average, particularly as getting a clean lap is difficult.

245bhp/910kgs approx, stripped with cage and running a set of AR1’s

This one - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by R8Steve on Wednesday 2nd May 14:41

[git-r]

nickfrog said:

Great lap and you almost respected JP's grass !!

I like your entry into the first chicane where you brake after the initial turn-in, a lot of people do the opposite.

Thanks Nick, hope you’re well mate

Lol yes trying not to take out the Doctors grass!

The car’s a bit noisy for Bedford hence some of the lines but so happy it did the day without going over the limit, it recorded about 86.4 dB and the limit is 87.5 ish!

Hoping to Make a how fast event over the summer with fresh AD08r (and secretly substitute driver) and maybe get a sub 1:20 on the south west circuit - fingers crossed!

[git-r]

• Edit - ignore this.... harry’s Lap timer is not to be trusted!

I always check harry’s time against video footage and it’s mostly very accurate. However, it seems the 2:41 is actually a 2:44, I’ll post the vid but checked it a couple of times and it’s low 2:44 with one little hold up. *

Very impressed with the BMW M4, clocked a 2:41 on MPSS. Standard other than pads and alignment.
Looking forward to seeing what it does with decent tyres and possibly some more power

Edited by git-r on Saturday 13th October 10:37

[Track_M3]

git-r said:

Very impressed with the BMW M4, clocked a 2:41 on MPSS. Standard other than pads and alignment.
Looking forward to seeing what it does with decent tyres and possibly some more power

That is impressive! M4 is a power house.

Done a 2:43.0 with a rubbish ATB diff, need to go back now I've a decent plated LSD

https://youtu.be/fr4qTpbd2Ec

[Munter]

Standard GT86
3:10

[Vimes]

Humour said:

MR2_SC said:

Anyway, for what it's worth, I went there for the first time in my vx220 earlier this year and my best laps were around 2m50s.

https://youtu.be/TDmfbQkZhk4

Ha, we were on the same TD in march 16. I noticed our green e36 in the vid lol

Out of curiosity what was the power to weight of your vx220 at the time and what tyres and brakes were you using during that session?

Our best times on GT layout are from 2017 utilising conti sport contact 5 used tyres, 225/45/17 all around and CL5+ pads on standard disks and calipers, mangaging mid 2:50's on clear laps. In 2016 iirc the tyres were sport contact 2's used again (pretty old tyres tbh) and ebc blue pads, then we were in the 3:00~3:04 range on clear laps. This is always 2up in the car, so 80~90kg ballast every time.

In my opinion, tyres and brakes as well as suspension make a noticable difference in lap times, I get that there are long straights but there are many corners which cam be attacked if the car is planted underneath you.

Just spotted this... I’ve changed my user name since that post but it was me in the vx220.

Power was circa 250bhp (flywheel) and weight around 900kg + driver. Tyres were cheap and cheerful federal 595RSR’s and brakes were standard setup with Pagid RS14 pads. Dampers and springs were a fast road setup.

You were doing well to get sub 3mins in a 328!

[git-r]

Track_M3 said:

That is impressive! M4 is a power house.

Done a 2:43.0 with a rubbish ATB diff, need to go back now I've a decent plated LSD

https://youtu.be/fr4qTpbd2Ec

Yes 2:41 is quite unbelievable for a stock M4.... because it wasn’t true!!! I edited the post but it did 2:44 according to the video footage, which is still impressive for such a road car.

Nice vid of the e46 and very impressive time, kick the passenger out and bet you’d be 2:41

Only vid I’ve uploaded is after the decision had been made to euthanise the tyres lolol

https://youtu.be/cMe7OAnLrxM