Drywall, Scrim or paper tape?

Drywall, Scrim or paper tape?

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souper

Original Poster:

2,433 posts

211 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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As above I have a small room I'm plasterboarding walls & ceiling; which is a soundproof affair hanging off resilient bars.

I want to try how the Americans do it paper tape and mud then sand and paint finish no wet plastering I suspect most new builds in the UK are also starting to use this method.

The boards are tapered edges, nigh on all USA guys seem to use paper tape rather than scrim tape on the joints.

Thoughts?

Slagathore

5,809 posts

192 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhsbU6lTrnM

I've used both and not had any problems.

but I can see how paper tape would be better. It's silly cheap as well.

GranpaB

6,242 posts

36 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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From memory, paper tape has a thin metal strip running down the centre so that it can also be used to form corners as well, and scrim it only used for wet plastering.

smifffymoto

4,547 posts

205 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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Paper tape is my preference.
I tried tape and scrim,my results with scrim were even more crap than my taped efforts.

GranpaB

6,242 posts

36 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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From memory, paper tape has a thin metal strip running down the centre so that it can also be used to form corners as well, and scrim it only used for wet plastering.

imck

781 posts

107 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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I have done a bit of Taping and Jointing with good results.
A few Air Bubbles on the first few attempts. Easy to fix.

Have used Plain Paper Tape and the Corner Paper Tape with Metal Inserts
More recently used Fibafuse, a self adhesive mesh Tape.

I used Easifil 60 Powder which takes a long time to go off. The 20 is probably better
Bought Stainless 6" and 10" Knives and Pan. About £30 all in.

GranpaB

6,242 posts

36 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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As this is PH, if you are going to do it properly, do it properly.

https://www.gyproctools.co.uk/Standard-Full-Set-St...


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beanoir78

352 posts

101 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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I’ve found paper tape to be easier to get a better finish, for me as a novice. And the paper tape with metal inserts is great for corners.

I also found using ready mixed compound made the job a lot less time consuming (albeit more expensive).

And a dedicated wall sander to make the whole mess passable afterwards!

Next time, I’ll be paying a plasterer





Edited by beanoir78 on Sunday 26th June 12:03


Edited by beanoir78 on Sunday 26th June 12:04

Wayne E Edge

545 posts

151 months

Sunday 26th June 2022
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I'm doing that right now. Started off with paper, applied with a banjo and now I'm using scrim. I get on better with latter.

souper

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2,433 posts

211 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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Lol. that's settled then, I'll try both methods and report back. thumbup

Saleen836

11,111 posts

209 months

Monday 27th June 2022
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I am a tape/jointer by trade so I'll sit this conversation out tongue out

Wayne E Edge

545 posts

151 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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Saleen836 said:
I am a tape/jointer by trade so I'll sit this conversation out tongue out
Wish you come and finish mine. I put up 600m² of boards

Pflanzgarten

3,940 posts

25 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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We still skim, silly but it still feels like the right thing to do!

I’ve done one house dry lined, the end customer was obviously none the wiser but it is 100% a softer finish.

In fact the walls feel nice, they have a unique feel of their own but in reality who feels walls?!

What people do do is scrape up against them, bang furniture into them and make repetitive marks in certain areas. All these will come off worse in a dry lined house.

Your skim does also add a small amount to your U Value as well.

Very popular in Scotland by the way.

gfreeman

1,734 posts

250 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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I always use mesh self adhesive tape and metal corner beads. Beads are much stronger for vulnerable corners. I have used Easifil as I don't trust my skimming skills. But the dust is a right pain.

In the commercial world from the 1980's the fashion went for speed, avoiding wet trades and cost by using tape and joint, but the mess caused by the sanding dust outweighed the mess caused by skimming and cost reductions saw traditional skim make a strong comeback from the early 2000's - in high end projects tape and joint was never an option.

Wayne E Edge

545 posts

151 months

Tuesday 28th June 2022
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Pflanzgarten said:
We still skim, silly but it still feels like the right thing to do!

I’ve done one house dry lined, the end customer was obviously none the wiser but it is 100% a softer finish.

In fact the walls feel nice, they have a unique feel of their own but in reality who feels walls?!

What people do do is scrape up against them, bang furniture into them and make repetitive marks in certain areas. All these will come off worse in a dry lined house.

Your skim does also add a small amount to your U Value as well.

Very popular in Scotland by the way.
I'd agree with that banging issue. Ant knocks will cause a dent