Trainee train drivers wanted...
Discussion
Stedman said:
We have a job where we do the first train via a valley, about 0600 departure (04-something book on mind!) down to the coast. When it's thick fog it's one of my favourite bits of driving ever. A genuine sense of achievement getting to the destination safely, smoothly all whilst being able to see sweet NA and feeling knackered.
A while before you'll be doing it, keep your head down, don't over complicate it and if you don't understand something just ask.
This.A while before you'll be doing it, keep your head down, don't over complicate it and if you don't understand something just ask.
Sounds arrogant but I love that feeling of driving the train in proper pea soup and nailing every part of driving, keeping to time. It makes you realise you know your s
t as you can have the odd wobble that you might not know the route well enough, that said it's always best to err on the side of caution in this job. It only takes one mistake to have an operational incident. One of my favourite maxims, ironically from my previous career was
' Do your job well, no one remembers, do your job wrong, no one forgets. '
itcaptainslow said:
Check module SP of the Rule Book or RS521 Signals, Handsignals, Indicators and Signs for enlightenment! 
I remember one of my rules instructors had a big thing about not calling position lights “ground position lights” as not all of them are on the ground...
Yes that's been mentioned. I wish they'd link to other modules when it's relevant in the rule book. So many times topics are cross referenced across multiple modules. I remember one of my rules instructors had a big thing about not calling position lights “ground position lights” as not all of them are on the ground...
Finally nailed all the reasons you can pass a signal at danger. Think I had to write the list out in full atleast 10 times before I could do it without referring to notes, feels like an achievement as it just wasn't going in.
The military tended to keep it's mnemonic's to a max of 4 letters
I'm also upto 159 acronyms, 2 of which are the same and mean completely different things
The military tended to keep it's mnemonic's to a max of 4 letters
I'm also upto 159 acronyms, 2 of which are the same and mean completely different things
ChocolateFrog said:
Finally nailed all the reasons you can pass a signal at danger. Think I had to write the list out in full atleast 10 times before I could do it without referring to notes, feels like an achievement as it just wasn't going in.
The military tended to keep it's mnemonic's to a max of 4 letters
I'm also upto 159 acronyms, 2 of which are the same and mean completely different things
Rather than mnemonics, it helps me if I think of “Why” you’d do it-then it all falls into place. A CDM on a Part C will want you to display that understanding, and as a DI I’d take opportunities to dig at it too. All very well being able to parrot about e.g. a train proceeding at caution through an AB section after a failed train being removed, but why is this necessary on this type of line... The military tended to keep it's mnemonic's to a max of 4 letters
I'm also upto 159 acronyms, 2 of which are the same and mean completely different things
Hope you’re enjoying it?
If and when you have to deal with out of course working (it's odds on that you will!), you'll find it surprisingly easy to block out the rules and regs you don't need for the situation you find yourself in. The most common scenarios are probably passing signals at danger, loco / train failure and assistance thereof, and reporting of trespassers.
demic said:
Apprentice Train Drivers at XC. Unlike the last round of trainee recruitment it looks like they’re taking people with no railway experience. Very, very rare opportunity fill yer boots!
https://jobs.deutschebahngroup.careers/en_US/jobsG...
Boots filled!https://jobs.deutschebahngroup.careers/en_US/jobsG...
Never thought I'd change from my current job but as you say an opportunity too good not to go for - though I suspect I'll be in competition from every furloughed airline pilot...
Thanks for the heads up...!
after applying to GTR as a trainee driver in december, today I received this
Dear Candidate
This email confirms that you have passed the initial application screening for the Trainee Train Driver role.
You will now progress to the next stage of the recruitment process, which is an online situational judgement exercise (GTR-1).
Does anyone have any advice for this next step please?
Also any ideas about how many make it to this stage from the online application?
Many thanks indeed
Dear Candidate
This email confirms that you have passed the initial application screening for the Trainee Train Driver role.
You will now progress to the next stage of the recruitment process, which is an online situational judgement exercise (GTR-1).
Does anyone have any advice for this next step please?
Also any ideas about how many make it to this stage from the online application?
Many thanks indeed
Edited by lawtoni on Wednesday 24th February 14:46
lawtoni said:
after applying to GTR as a trainee driver in december, today I received this
Dear Candidate
This email confirms that you have passed the initial application screening for the Trainee Train Driver role.
You will now progress to the next stage of the recruitment process, which is an online situational judgement exercise (GTR-1).
Does anyone have any advice for this next step please?
Also any ideas about how many make it to this stage from the online application?
Many thanks indeed
Quote.Dear Candidate
This email confirms that you have passed the initial application screening for the Trainee Train Driver role.
You will now progress to the next stage of the recruitment process, which is an online situational judgement exercise (GTR-1).
Does anyone have any advice for this next step please?
Also any ideas about how many make it to this stage from the online application?
Many thanks indeed
Edited by lawtoni on Wednesday 24th February 14:46
"Description
The RSJT is a new Situational Judgement Test designed specifically for the railways. It is available online now to assess how effectively your candidates will manage working in a safety critical role within a railway environment.
For each scenario the candidate is presented with four options and has to put them in priority order with the best option first, then the next best option and so on. This allows you to objectively assess how your candidates are likely to respond in a given work situation.
Here is an example of the type of scenario you will find in the RSJT:
Example Situation
You are driving as a train driver. You stop at a station and a customer comes running up to your cab and tells you that the back engine of the train is on fire. The engine you have been driving is prone to fires and recently another engine caught fire causing extensive damage to the train and the track with injuries to customers who were travelling on the train. What do you do?
1. Make a PA announcement to the customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately, you then call the emergency services.
2. You call the emergency services and then make a PA announcement telling customers to leave the train and station immediately.
3. You go to the back engine to check out if it is on fire and if it is then you go back to the front cab and you make a PA announcement to customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately.
4. You ask a station assistant on the station to go through the train and evacuate customers from the train and station whilst you call emergency services".
End quote.
What is the right answer? My guess is 3.
The Mad Monk said:
Quote.
"Description
The RSJT is a new Situational Judgement Test designed specifically for the railways. It is available online now to assess how effectively your candidates will manage working in a safety critical role within a railway environment.
For each scenario the candidate is presented with four options and has to put them in priority order with the best option first, then the next best option and so on. This allows you to objectively assess how your candidates are likely to respond in a given work situation.
Here is an example of the type of scenario you will find in the RSJT:
Example Situation
You are driving as a train driver. You stop at a station and a customer comes running up to your cab and tells you that the back engine of the train is on fire. The engine you have been driving is prone to fires and recently another engine caught fire causing extensive damage to the train and the track with injuries to customers who were travelling on the train. What do you do?
1. Make a PA announcement to the customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately, you then call the emergency services.
2. You call the emergency services and then make a PA announcement telling customers to leave the train and station immediately.
3. You go to the back engine to check out if it is on fire and if it is then you go back to the front cab and you make a PA announcement to customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately.
4. You ask a station assistant on the station to go through the train and evacuate customers from the train and station whilst you call emergency services".
End quote.
What is the right answer? My guess is 3.
I'd go for 1, "Description
The RSJT is a new Situational Judgement Test designed specifically for the railways. It is available online now to assess how effectively your candidates will manage working in a safety critical role within a railway environment.
For each scenario the candidate is presented with four options and has to put them in priority order with the best option first, then the next best option and so on. This allows you to objectively assess how your candidates are likely to respond in a given work situation.
Here is an example of the type of scenario you will find in the RSJT:
Example Situation
You are driving as a train driver. You stop at a station and a customer comes running up to your cab and tells you that the back engine of the train is on fire. The engine you have been driving is prone to fires and recently another engine caught fire causing extensive damage to the train and the track with injuries to customers who were travelling on the train. What do you do?
1. Make a PA announcement to the customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately, you then call the emergency services.
2. You call the emergency services and then make a PA announcement telling customers to leave the train and station immediately.
3. You go to the back engine to check out if it is on fire and if it is then you go back to the front cab and you make a PA announcement to customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately.
4. You ask a station assistant on the station to go through the train and evacuate customers from the train and station whilst you call emergency services".
End quote.
What is the right answer? My guess is 3.
might be wrong!
lawtoni said:
The Mad Monk said:
Quote.
"Description
The RSJT is a new Situational Judgement Test designed specifically for the railways. It is available online now to assess how effectively your candidates will manage working in a safety critical role within a railway environment.
For each scenario the candidate is presented with four options and has to put them in priority order with the best option first, then the next best option and so on. This allows you to objectively assess how your candidates are likely to respond in a given work situation.
Here is an example of the type of scenario you will find in the RSJT:
Example Situation
You are driving as a train driver. You stop at a station and a customer comes running up to your cab and tells you that the back engine of the train is on fire. The engine you have been driving is prone to fires and recently another engine caught fire causing extensive damage to the train and the track with injuries to customers who were travelling on the train. What do you do?
1. Make a PA announcement to the customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately, you then call the emergency services.
2. You call the emergency services and then make a PA announcement telling customers to leave the train and station immediately.
3. You go to the back engine to check out if it is on fire and if it is then you go back to the front cab and you make a PA announcement to customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately.
4. You ask a station assistant on the station to go through the train and evacuate customers from the train and station whilst you call emergency services".
End quote.
What is the right answer? My guess is 3.
I'd go for 1, "Description
The RSJT is a new Situational Judgement Test designed specifically for the railways. It is available online now to assess how effectively your candidates will manage working in a safety critical role within a railway environment.
For each scenario the candidate is presented with four options and has to put them in priority order with the best option first, then the next best option and so on. This allows you to objectively assess how your candidates are likely to respond in a given work situation.
Here is an example of the type of scenario you will find in the RSJT:
Example Situation
You are driving as a train driver. You stop at a station and a customer comes running up to your cab and tells you that the back engine of the train is on fire. The engine you have been driving is prone to fires and recently another engine caught fire causing extensive damage to the train and the track with injuries to customers who were travelling on the train. What do you do?
1. Make a PA announcement to the customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately, you then call the emergency services.
2. You call the emergency services and then make a PA announcement telling customers to leave the train and station immediately.
3. You go to the back engine to check out if it is on fire and if it is then you go back to the front cab and you make a PA announcement to customers telling them to leave the train and station immediately.
4. You ask a station assistant on the station to go through the train and evacuate customers from the train and station whilst you call emergency services".
End quote.
What is the right answer? My guess is 3.
might be wrong!
3 I think is the best because surely you'd confirm there was a fire before calling emergency services? 4 seems a bit dodgy - why put someone extra onto the train potentially in harm's way so put that last. And 1 seems better than 2 - get people off the train before calling the fire brigade...
ETA changed my mind: 1 - 2 - 4 - 3 ; I'm guessing there are rules about just abandoning the train and going for a wander...?
Edited by funinhounslow on Wednesday 24th February 17:33
funinhounslow said:
I'd go 3 - 1 - 2 - 4
3 I think is the best because surely you'd confirm there was a fire before calling emergency services? 4 seems a bit dodgy - why put someone extra onto the train potentially in harm's way so put that last. And 1 seems better than 2 - get people off the train before calling the fire brigade...
ETA changed my mind: 1 - 2 - 4 - 3 ; I'm guessing there are rules about just abandoning the train and going for a wander...?
I'd be inclined to think that if said train was on fire, getting out now immediately would be the way to go!3 I think is the best because surely you'd confirm there was a fire before calling emergency services? 4 seems a bit dodgy - why put someone extra onto the train potentially in harm's way so put that last. And 1 seems better than 2 - get people off the train before calling the fire brigade...
ETA changed my mind: 1 - 2 - 4 - 3 ; I'm guessing there are rules about just abandoning the train and going for a wander...?
Edited by funinhounslow on Wednesday 24th February 17:33
4 2 1 3
The information suggests the risk of fire is a likely possibility
Use the trained staff available to you. Frees you up to make the emergency call asap
It does not say the type of train barring being passenger stock and suggesting loco hauled.
It could be a fair old walk to the rear engine and may not be sighted if on a curve.
That's what I would go with. Probably wrong. These tests sometimes have some bizzare logic.
They sometimes aren't so much about the right and wrong, but also about how you would approach a situation.
The information suggests the risk of fire is a likely possibility
Use the trained staff available to you. Frees you up to make the emergency call asap
It does not say the type of train barring being passenger stock and suggesting loco hauled.
It could be a fair old walk to the rear engine and may not be sighted if on a curve.
That's what I would go with. Probably wrong. These tests sometimes have some bizzare logic.
They sometimes aren't so much about the right and wrong, but also about how you would approach a situation.
Edited by Rick101 on Thursday 25th February 08:14
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