QS - RICS or CIOB
Discussion
Looking for some advice really and anyone with relevant experience.
I work as a QS for a top 10 main contractor.
I am being pushed by my commercial manager to go for chartered status (he is both MRICS and MCIOB). However, I am not entirely sure which route to pursue.
From having a read of both I think I suit CIOB more (also a number of QS colleagues are CIOB) but welcome to any advice. RICS seems a much bigger commitment and being honest I am not sure I can commit fully to it.
I have no desire to ever be a PQS.
Any thoughts/experience/advice?
Thanks
I work as a QS for a top 10 main contractor.
I am being pushed by my commercial manager to go for chartered status (he is both MRICS and MCIOB). However, I am not entirely sure which route to pursue.
From having a read of both I think I suit CIOB more (also a number of QS colleagues are CIOB) but welcome to any advice. RICS seems a much bigger commitment and being honest I am not sure I can commit fully to it.
I have no desire to ever be a PQS.
Any thoughts/experience/advice?
Thanks
dxg said:
RICS without a doubt.
When you get that far, check that your employer will pay your APC fees as well as your membership fees. Those two together were over a grand last time I looked...
Graduate membership is about £165 and includes a first attempt. £275 thereafter with fees moving to around £650.When you get that far, check that your employer will pay your APC fees as well as your membership fees. Those two together were over a grand last time I looked...
Hugo85 said:
Bit of an update (bit late)
RICS APC commenced and underway. Anyone with any guidance/tips would be appreciated.
Hoping to become chartered in 2018.
Congratulations!RICS APC commenced and underway. Anyone with any guidance/tips would be appreciated.
Hoping to become chartered in 2018.
Further to my post above, I sat in May and passed on first attempt.
I now chair the APC meetings for the 10 or so candidates in our office, together with giving advice on documentation drafting and providing mocks.
Happy to chat through with you at length.
A nice thread this. Heartening to read for an old Chartered Building Surveyor like me (30+ years Chartered this year). Well done to the OP and others who have applied themselves to getting those letters. It is extraordinary that this business (Property) is not streaming with new blood every year. It is a worldwide recognised profession and I promote it as an option whenever I can.
JM
JM
loafer123 said:
I was pleased to learn yesterday that you can become MRICS through apprenticeship schemes, which I didn’t know.
CBRE do a good apprenticeship scheme. Worth getting in touch with them. It's about time the old style of learning was mixed with the new. No college fees, still hard work but learning on the job is what is required. It still takes as long to qualify and you do need to attend college (usually sponsored by the company) but the skills unravel before you rather than being learnt after the degree. Most people think surveyors are either Quantity Surveyors or the chap/lady who looks at the house you want to buy.
I always use Bluewater Shopping centre as an example of what Chartered Surveyors do, from pre-acquisition reports on whether an old chalk quarry would be a good place to build a shopping centre right through the design and build process up to present day, where CS's need to manage all elements of the centre including cleaning, servicing, rent reviews and collection etc etc etc. We are everywhere. Secret squirrel!
JM
Johnniem said:
CBRE do a good apprenticeship scheme. Worth getting in touch with them. It's about time the old style of learning was mixed with the new. No college fees, still hard work but learning on the job is what is required. It still takes as long to qualify and you do need to attend college (usually sponsored by the company) but the skills unravel before you rather than being learnt after the degree.
Most people think surveyors are either Quantity Surveyors or the chap/lady who looks at the house you want to buy.
I always use Bluewater Shopping centre as an example of what Chartered Surveyors do, from pre-acquisition reports on whether an old chalk quarry would be a good place to build a shopping centre right through the design and build process up to present day, where CS's need to manage all elements of the centre including cleaning, servicing, rent reviews and collection etc etc etc. We are everywhere. Secret squirrel!
JM
Indeed we are, Johnnie!Most people think surveyors are either Quantity Surveyors or the chap/lady who looks at the house you want to buy.
I always use Bluewater Shopping centre as an example of what Chartered Surveyors do, from pre-acquisition reports on whether an old chalk quarry would be a good place to build a shopping centre right through the design and build process up to present day, where CS's need to manage all elements of the centre including cleaning, servicing, rent reviews and collection etc etc etc. We are everywhere. Secret squirrel!
JM
Good to see the profession, and large firms like CBRE, being so pro-active.
Maybe it's the QS in me but it would annoy me having to pay a subscription just to put the letters after my name, even though the employer usually picks up the cost. I probably wouldn't even use the letters anyway unless I was looking for a job.
I have wondered if I should just do it, but it's hard to find time and enthusiasm to commit to it. My degree is RICS accredited and I have been working for 15 years as a house builder QS and subbie QS on rail and commercial. Back on housebuilding for the foreseeable future.
I have wondered if I should just do it, but it's hard to find time and enthusiasm to commit to it. My degree is RICS accredited and I have been working for 15 years as a house builder QS and subbie QS on rail and commercial. Back on housebuilding for the foreseeable future.
AlexC1981 said:
Maybe it's the QS in me but it would annoy me having to pay a subscription just to put the letters after my name, even though the employer usually picks up the cost. I probably wouldn't even use the letters anyway unless I was looking for a job.
I have wondered if I should just do it, but it's hard to find time and enthusiasm to commit to it. My degree is RICS accredited and I have been working for 15 years as a house builder QS and subbie QS on rail and commercial. Back on housebuilding for the foreseeable future.
It isn’t about the letters per se. It’s what the letters represent, both to employers and (many) clients.I have wondered if I should just do it, but it's hard to find time and enthusiasm to commit to it. My degree is RICS accredited and I have been working for 15 years as a house builder QS and subbie QS on rail and commercial. Back on housebuilding for the foreseeable future.
Bit of an update.....
The not so good news is that I am not (yet) MRICS.
The good news is that today I found out I passed my professional review and am now MCIOB.
On a complete flip against my OP I am actively looking for a PQS role which seems pretty much i possible without some for of chartership. Hoping MCIOB will now get me that foot in the door!
The not so good news is that I am not (yet) MRICS.
The good news is that today I found out I passed my professional review and am now MCIOB.
On a complete flip against my OP I am actively looking for a PQS role which seems pretty much i possible without some for of chartership. Hoping MCIOB will now get me that foot in the door!
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