Your company, does it matter to you?
Discussion
Yes but I have only ever worked for SME's.
Doing a good job matters and being the only one in your "department" does have massive impact. Go away on holiday and you still need to have some level of responsibility.
My last company employer was slightly larger, but I never felt valued and I got made redundant as it happened so being paid to leave was a happy instance. I now earn 25% more than I did in that job and actually get a decent bonus, plus the ability to spend on what we need (and my ideas are valued and put into action).
My wonderful wife works for an NHS trust in Kent and the differences are stark. She can go to work and then go home, my job is completely different (she is used to it though as I used to go to events in different countries). She is definitely a cog in one of the countries largest wheels.
The waste is enormous, but the staff are brilliant and honestly they do all they can. It makes me very sad (and it is true) that many staff within the NHS are low in about every area when it comes to how their job makes them feel. My wife works more hours regularly than me for just under half. If anything all of them (bar the top end consultants etc.) deserve to paid far more for what they see, do and have to deal with.
When people complain about the NHS they need a reality check, the staff are doing all they can "on the ground" whilst the management screw it up. Also they need to get better at procurement, unfortunately you have a lot of staff who just waste money and lack the correct ideas to resolve anything (but some of that does come down sadly to motivation etc.).
I think the best way I ever got of describing NHS procurement is people never get fired they get to move sideways or more senior.
Doing a good job matters and being the only one in your "department" does have massive impact. Go away on holiday and you still need to have some level of responsibility.
My last company employer was slightly larger, but I never felt valued and I got made redundant as it happened so being paid to leave was a happy instance. I now earn 25% more than I did in that job and actually get a decent bonus, plus the ability to spend on what we need (and my ideas are valued and put into action).
My wonderful wife works for an NHS trust in Kent and the differences are stark. She can go to work and then go home, my job is completely different (she is used to it though as I used to go to events in different countries). She is definitely a cog in one of the countries largest wheels.
The waste is enormous, but the staff are brilliant and honestly they do all they can. It makes me very sad (and it is true) that many staff within the NHS are low in about every area when it comes to how their job makes them feel. My wife works more hours regularly than me for just under half. If anything all of them (bar the top end consultants etc.) deserve to paid far more for what they see, do and have to deal with.
When people complain about the NHS they need a reality check, the staff are doing all they can "on the ground" whilst the management screw it up. Also they need to get better at procurement, unfortunately you have a lot of staff who just waste money and lack the correct ideas to resolve anything (but some of that does come down sadly to motivation etc.).
I think the best way I ever got of describing NHS procurement is people never get fired they get to move sideways or more senior.
Edited by Ninja59 on Friday 12th January 13:50
My company doesn't matter at all to me.
The work I do matters.
I joined a company with an excellent reputation in their field which had been bought by a large consulting firm a year or two earlier. At the time, both things were a huge positive. At the time it operated autonomously and it was an absolutely fantastic place to work.
Over the years, sadly, the parent company have made a series of disastrous decisions which have totally ripped the heart out of the company I joined, causing a staff exodus and the loss of major clients, with no prospect of ever getting them back. By showing zero respect or loyalty to the employees the amount of respect the employees feel for the company now is through the floor. Some of us get to do interesting work we couldn't do at any other firm, but mostly everyone's just here for the money these days.
The work I do matters.
I joined a company with an excellent reputation in their field which had been bought by a large consulting firm a year or two earlier. At the time, both things were a huge positive. At the time it operated autonomously and it was an absolutely fantastic place to work.
Over the years, sadly, the parent company have made a series of disastrous decisions which have totally ripped the heart out of the company I joined, causing a staff exodus and the loss of major clients, with no prospect of ever getting them back. By showing zero respect or loyalty to the employees the amount of respect the employees feel for the company now is through the floor. Some of us get to do interesting work we couldn't do at any other firm, but mostly everyone's just here for the money these days.
Ninja59 said:
When people complain about the NHS they need a reality check, the staff are doing all they can "on the ground" whilst the management screw it up. Also they need to get better at procurement, unfortunately you have a lot of staff who just waste money and lack the correct ideas to resolve anything (but some of that does come down sadly to motivation etc.).
Seems to me it's the staff wasting the money that need the reality check more than complainants, who quite often are complaining about wastage rather than the performance of front line staff.Yipper said:
It matters a lot for men, whose status is usually defined by who they work for.
Say you work for Tom's Plumbers and people will secretly snigger. Say you work for Ferrari, even if you're just a poorly paid mechanic, and people will be wowed.
Bloody hell... a Yipper post with an element of truth. I think someone has hacked his account.Say you work for Tom's Plumbers and people will secretly snigger. Say you work for Ferrari, even if you're just a poorly paid mechanic, and people will be wowed.
My son works for a very well known and (for people who are into what he's into, and there are millions of them) a very glamorous firm. Now as it happens, he has a pretty glamorous job. But as soon as he says who he works for, people say "wow, that's amazing, how did you get in there, you're so lucky, have you met xxxx, what's yyyy like to work with? Yet for all they know, he might be the cleaner.
Unless you work for Google or Apple, does anybody care? Not really. It's in your head.
I got friends working for huge investment banks. Does anyone bat an eyelid? Not really. I guess it depends where your aspirations are and your circle.
If people respect you for your title, then it's the title they respect not the person. Soon as the title goes...(which it will)
I got friends working for huge investment banks. Does anyone bat an eyelid? Not really. I guess it depends where your aspirations are and your circle.
If people respect you for your title, then it's the title they respect not the person. Soon as the title goes...(which it will)
I work two jobs right now, part time as a delivery driver for one of the UKs major super markets, and on placement as a engineering student at a small generator co.
I will say, with the large company, I really struggle to take pride in my work, nothing you do 'really' makes a difference and it shows. With that being said I have noticed these companies tend to be the first to try and brainwash you into their ethos, retailers appear particularly bad for this. It makes the people that they do successfully brainwash intolerable to work around.
However I really enjoy the work I do with the smaller company, it's not just more fulfilling work, but being able to work alongside the company owner (ours is owned by 3 brothers, 2 of which frequently get their hands dirty). Being able to give input directly and seeing the fruits of your labour's resulting in more success for the company. It's something I can easily take pride in. However as a consequence I do find it is much easier to work harder for less and to work out of your scope as a 'favour' to the company owner.
I will say, with the large company, I really struggle to take pride in my work, nothing you do 'really' makes a difference and it shows. With that being said I have noticed these companies tend to be the first to try and brainwash you into their ethos, retailers appear particularly bad for this. It makes the people that they do successfully brainwash intolerable to work around.
However I really enjoy the work I do with the smaller company, it's not just more fulfilling work, but being able to work alongside the company owner (ours is owned by 3 brothers, 2 of which frequently get their hands dirty). Being able to give input directly and seeing the fruits of your labour's resulting in more success for the company. It's something I can easily take pride in. However as a consequence I do find it is much easier to work harder for less and to work out of your scope as a 'favour' to the company owner.
In a word, yes.
I work for a defence company that specialises in supplying counter terrorism and counter espionage stuff. I run a small sales team with a focus on emerging geographies (imagine all the dodgy places around the world!).
I’m passionate about our business, the good that we do for people and the lives that we save. The controls that we have across the business are absolutely top notch and there is always a clear audit trail of who buys and uses our things. This is backed up with the correct and appropriate approvals from HMG.
We’re growing fast and have nearly double our revenue in the last 3 years, while still maintaining a headcount of around 350 / 360.
A great many of the people i work with are truly inspirational and some of their stories from during military service are awe inspiring. We have our faults as a business, as every business does, and we have our share numpties or people in the wrong jobs but, on balance, it’s a pretty cool place to work.
I work for a defence company that specialises in supplying counter terrorism and counter espionage stuff. I run a small sales team with a focus on emerging geographies (imagine all the dodgy places around the world!).
I’m passionate about our business, the good that we do for people and the lives that we save. The controls that we have across the business are absolutely top notch and there is always a clear audit trail of who buys and uses our things. This is backed up with the correct and appropriate approvals from HMG.
We’re growing fast and have nearly double our revenue in the last 3 years, while still maintaining a headcount of around 350 / 360.
A great many of the people i work with are truly inspirational and some of their stories from during military service are awe inspiring. We have our faults as a business, as every business does, and we have our share numpties or people in the wrong jobs but, on balance, it’s a pretty cool place to work.
Yes to all.
My firm employs over 350000 people globally and yet through the darkest time of my life I felt I had them all looking after me. They are also very flexible with working times/locations so I can have a job and a life, and pay well in relation to the effort and stress I give back.
I have friends that work for my competitors and am genuinely protective and competitive when it comes to discussing corporate ability and reputation.
My firm employs over 350000 people globally and yet through the darkest time of my life I felt I had them all looking after me. They are also very flexible with working times/locations so I can have a job and a life, and pay well in relation to the effort and stress I give back.
I have friends that work for my competitors and am genuinely protective and competitive when it comes to discussing corporate ability and reputation.
REALIST123 said:
That’s all you’re doing in the Civil Service........
You could have that same cynical view with any job, in any industry. However coming from Financial Services/Stock Broker industry the reality of it is more prevalent.In my view there's no industry more rewarding than the Civil Service, working on projects which are positively impacting your friends, family and the general public.
S9JTO said:
REALIST123 said:
That’s all you’re doing in the Civil Service........
You could have that same cynical view with any job, in any industry. However coming from Financial Services/Stock Broker industry the reality of it is more prevalent.In my view there's no industry more rewarding than the Civil Service, working on projects which are positively impacting your friends, family and the general public.
It's important to me. The size and revenue means little to me other than if they are profitable, I have a job but reputation, yes.
I work for a company that manufactures products and services to protect and save lives and we have a pretty good reputation for quality and service. They're also decent to their workforce. During difficult times in recession, they introduced banked hours schemes for production to have them in when the orders were there rather than make any job cuts.
We've had some pretty heart warming thank you letters from people and their families who have been kept alive or protected using our products. Given what's at stake with what we do, I'd not be happy if our company had a poor reputation or wasn't regarded highly.
I work for a company that manufactures products and services to protect and save lives and we have a pretty good reputation for quality and service. They're also decent to their workforce. During difficult times in recession, they introduced banked hours schemes for production to have them in when the orders were there rather than make any job cuts.
We've had some pretty heart warming thank you letters from people and their families who have been kept alive or protected using our products. Given what's at stake with what we do, I'd not be happy if our company had a poor reputation or wasn't regarded highly.
No, not really.
I work for probably the biggest player in the market, billion $ a year but unless you are in the market you wouldn't know us.
Good company to be honest and good for my career but day to day not really. Even then it's not about my company but about our customers who are the big banks, retailers etc. who people have heard of.
Its amazing how many companies you have never heard of have massive offices with thousands of staff around the world.
I work for probably the biggest player in the market, billion $ a year but unless you are in the market you wouldn't know us.
Good company to be honest and good for my career but day to day not really. Even then it's not about my company but about our customers who are the big banks, retailers etc. who people have heard of.
Its amazing how many companies you have never heard of have massive offices with thousands of staff around the world.
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