Salary matching - proof?
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DSLiverpool said:
CubanPete said:
You have to ask why they are happy to move for the same money.
I would want a new employer to pay considerably more than I earn now for me to consider moving.
Did you not see what I just posted? I would want a new employer to pay considerably more than I earn now for me to consider moving.
Sounds like he is trying in on a bit. How much above market rate is he worth to you?
How much is the better commute, decent boss etc worth to him?
CubanPete said:
DSLiverpool said:
CubanPete said:
You have to ask why they are happy to move for the same money.
I would want a new employer to pay considerably more than I earn now for me to consider moving.
Did you not see what I just posted? I would want a new employer to pay considerably more than I earn now for me to consider moving.
Sounds like he is trying in on a bit. How much above market rate is he worth to you?
How much is the better commute, decent boss etc worth to him?
You been talking about this guy for days now.. you obviously want him, just pay him what he asks and get on with life.
im sure you don't umm, arr and procrastinate like this over every decision
just remember.. there's always more money so its of no consequence.
What would happen if you offered the guy the job, but said that the most you could pay him was £x ( x being your preferred amount )
If he was bs'ing then he'll either accept outright, or offer a justification for accepting to keep credibility. If he is firm in his salary requirement then he will either say no or try to negotiate you up. If this is the case and you want him then you can always go back to him with more.
Either way it will be interesting to see his reaction.
If he was bs'ing then he'll either accept outright, or offer a justification for accepting to keep credibility. If he is firm in his salary requirement then he will either say no or try to negotiate you up. If this is the case and you want him then you can always go back to him with more.
Either way it will be interesting to see his reaction.
SystemParanoia said:
DSLiverpool said:
We made the person an offer of the salary we will pay for the job, we are continuing to interview but should know shortly.
How much was he asking for?How much did you offer?
DSLiverpool said:
SystemParanoia said:
DSLiverpool said:
We made the person an offer of the salary we will pay for the job, we are continuing to interview but should know shortly.
How much was he asking for?How much did you offer?
Just be open, let people see how much you don't value them vs the person sitting next to them doing the exact same job.
SystemParanoia said:
Being all hush hush about salaries is the biggest problem in employment.
Just be open, let people see how much you don't value them vs the person sitting next to them doing the exact same job.
Why do people need to know (and why should they care) what everybody else in the organisation is paid?Just be open, let people see how much you don't value them vs the person sitting next to them doing the exact same job.
Your employer offers you £X for doing X work. The person next to you might be doing the same work for £X + £10k but so what?
Countdown said:
SystemParanoia said:
Being all hush hush about salaries is the biggest problem in employment.
Just be open, let people see how much you don't value them vs the person sitting next to them doing the exact same job.
Why do people need to know (and why should they care) what everybody else in the organisation is paid?Just be open, let people see how much you don't value them vs the person sitting next to them doing the exact same job.
Your employer offers you £X for doing X work. The person next to you might be doing the same work for £X + £10k but so what?
SystemParanoia said:
If the person sitting next to me doing the EXACT same job is on nearly x2 my wage @£10k more, then my employer is taking the piss and is demonstrably taking advantage of me.
Playing devil's advocate... they might bring other attributes to work - eg they might be nicer looking, they might be more helpful, they might create a nicer atmosphere..not everything can be broken down into tangible outputs. Surely an Employer has the right to decide what he/she wants to pay somebody, just as an Employee has the right to choose what they will/won't accept...?Countdown said:
SystemParanoia said:
You see a problem with being open and transparent about pay ?
Yes, if it results in a lack of motivation or people b
hing about each other. It's like asking employees to be open and transparent about applying for other jobs and what salaries they're asking forPay them with parity and this a problem that will never raise its head.
And yes I am absolutely open about looking for other work, why should that affect anything.. everybody is always looking for another job as internal promotions are usually capped in terms of £££ rise..
Countdown said:
SystemParanoia said:
If the person sitting next to me doing the EXACT same job is on nearly x2 my wage @£10k more, then my employer is taking the piss and is demonstrably taking advantage of me.
Playing devil's advocate... they might bring other attributes to work - eg they might be nicer looking, they might be more helpful, they might create a nicer atmosphere..not everything can be broken down into tangible outputs. Surely an Employer has the right to decide what he/she wants to pay somebody, just as an Employee has the right to choose what they will/won't accept...?Just be open about it.
Then employees can use this information to exercise their right to stay and STFU.. or walk.
SystemParanoia said:
Pay them with parity and this a problem that will never raise its head.
With the best will in the world no 2 employees are exactly the same. The Employer should have the flexibility to pay each one what the Employer thinks they merit. If he's not a good judge then sooner or later his good employees leave and he's left with the dross.SystemParanoia said:
Antony Moxey said:
Wow, talk about appropriate username.
You see a problem with being open and transparent about pay ?Antony Moxey said:
SystemParanoia said:
Antony Moxey said:
Wow, talk about appropriate username.
You see a problem with being open and transparent about pay ?
and as an employer.. if you truly value someone.. you show it with a bigger paycheck. For example, you value the Global CTO more highly than the part time weekend cleaner.. we get it.
im not disputing that. everyone above agrees.
but those that you don't value ( or value less compared to others in the same role ) also deserve to know this.
theres a pecking order.. its nice to know where you are in the line.
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