Throwing in the towel
Discussion
garyhun said:
LeoZwalf said:
funkyrobot said:
I have a daughter who starts school in September. I only get to see her properly at weekends due to work. I miss her dearly.
funkyrobot said:
My wife is also supporting me and said she will stand by any decision I make.
These two quotes say it all. Although it isn't really the same, 10 years ago I left my home town and a job which, although it was fun, it was never going to get me anywhere. I left to go and live in Germany with my girlfriend of 8 months. 10 years later (it wil be in August) we are still very much together and I now have something resembling an actual career. Had I not taken the plunge, I dread to think where I'd be now.
You have the perfect reason and full support of your wife. You will look back and wonder why you didn't do it earlier, and be glad you made the change. Good luck!
Good luck OP!
An old colleague of mine had a very successful career, did his final stint in another country before retiring at 50ish.
He came back from said final stint, his kids had just stated uni (he'd only seen them at weekends too) and his wife had found someone else...
People delay family time too long nowadays.
which part...Good work OP. I got out at 40 and have never looked back. I have far less money but am so much happier. The double edged sword is that the years I gave to my corporate paymaster gave me the luxury of being able to walk away. Once you’ve done it you’ll realise how pointless it all was, all that stress and hassle over nothing of any importance. Money is nice but nothing is more valuable than time.
I went from working in aviation, with lots of last minute changes and time away. No problem at all until I realised my 2 boys were growing up quickly and I would miss most of it. I decided to change jobs and now work part time, on substantially less money. I am home every night and get to spend a lot of family time together. You only live once and although money is tighter we are as a family all much happier.
A really warm thread... Top posts by all.
I had my moment in community pharmacy 18 months ago. The profession hey-day was long gone and company was borrowing employee goodwill and assumed customer loyalty. Innovation was not supported properly and clinical/patient safety was being compromised IMO.
So after 13 years, company takeover, and following a snotty telephone call from an unknown head office administration puppet, I handed in my notice by telephone on a Monday morning. I had a note in my pocket to reaffirm my decision. Letter was popped into the internal mail. Mrs Dragonflyjade was pregnant and the locum scene was (and still is) cut throat.
But it paid off. A GP practice took a punt on me and got me in - untested, unknown and with no job description. Initially worked part time and renegotiated to full time this Easter; at the same pay but significantly less hours as the previous job (48 hours to 35 a week). I don't work weekends now, which for me was a dream.
Yep, money was tight for the year, still is, but I had quality time supporting Mrs and Baby. Really happy that I did. I cannot buy that time.
New bosses are very family focussed (family men themselves) and manager is good to work with. The commute is worth it. My plans for an Masarati will have to wait a while.
OP you are making the right decision I feel. Your original post shows that you see the larger picture of life rather than money/work. The materialistic trappings of white goods will never replace family time. Holidays should be for exploring, relaxing and making memories; not resting from the constant grind.
Bit of a post from me, but this resonates with me very closely. I wish you all the best.
I had my moment in community pharmacy 18 months ago. The profession hey-day was long gone and company was borrowing employee goodwill and assumed customer loyalty. Innovation was not supported properly and clinical/patient safety was being compromised IMO.
So after 13 years, company takeover, and following a snotty telephone call from an unknown head office administration puppet, I handed in my notice by telephone on a Monday morning. I had a note in my pocket to reaffirm my decision. Letter was popped into the internal mail. Mrs Dragonflyjade was pregnant and the locum scene was (and still is) cut throat.
But it paid off. A GP practice took a punt on me and got me in - untested, unknown and with no job description. Initially worked part time and renegotiated to full time this Easter; at the same pay but significantly less hours as the previous job (48 hours to 35 a week). I don't work weekends now, which for me was a dream.
Yep, money was tight for the year, still is, but I had quality time supporting Mrs and Baby. Really happy that I did. I cannot buy that time.
New bosses are very family focussed (family men themselves) and manager is good to work with. The commute is worth it. My plans for an Masarati will have to wait a while.
OP you are making the right decision I feel. Your original post shows that you see the larger picture of life rather than money/work. The materialistic trappings of white goods will never replace family time. Holidays should be for exploring, relaxing and making memories; not resting from the constant grind.
Bit of a post from me, but this resonates with me very closely. I wish you all the best.
I’m currently going through the same at work. I have been moved to a new team which I hate. I haven’t enjoyed my job for some time due to the pay and the nature of the role. To list a few:
- Company vehicle tracked and driving performance monitored. They pick you up for speeding, cornering,braking and acceleration. They have a discipline framework in place for this.
-£18000 a year when others doing the same job are on a bit more (20s)
-Company expecting more but not paying in accordance
-More pressure from managers
- Dead end job with no path to follow
Needless to say after 2 years I am completely burnt out and now cannot get out my bed in the morning. It’s awful and not nice but I kept pushing myself and purely thought of the money. I have absolutely no pride in my work and it’s making me frustrated. In my role you have to be self motivated and I really struggle with this due to the issues mentioned.
I know my time is up at this company which is a great thing on one hand but a bad thing on the another as I have no new job lined up yet. I want to put in my notice but when I plan on a day to do it I back out as I know how bad the market is.
I suppose I just need to take the risk and put this nonsense behind me once and for all.
What would you guys do ?
Ps sorry for the slight thread hijack and congrats on deciding to leave your role.
- Company vehicle tracked and driving performance monitored. They pick you up for speeding, cornering,braking and acceleration. They have a discipline framework in place for this.
-£18000 a year when others doing the same job are on a bit more (20s)
-Company expecting more but not paying in accordance
-More pressure from managers
- Dead end job with no path to follow
Needless to say after 2 years I am completely burnt out and now cannot get out my bed in the morning. It’s awful and not nice but I kept pushing myself and purely thought of the money. I have absolutely no pride in my work and it’s making me frustrated. In my role you have to be self motivated and I really struggle with this due to the issues mentioned.
I know my time is up at this company which is a great thing on one hand but a bad thing on the another as I have no new job lined up yet. I want to put in my notice but when I plan on a day to do it I back out as I know how bad the market is.
I suppose I just need to take the risk and put this nonsense behind me once and for all.
What would you guys do ?
Ps sorry for the slight thread hijack and congrats on deciding to leave your role.
Edited by Petroleum Gas on Sunday 3rd June 11:37
Edited by Petroleum Gas on Sunday 3rd June 11:38
Edited by Petroleum Gas on Sunday 3rd June 11:42
funkyrobot said:
Done.
Manager was shocked. Immediately countered with reduced hours rather than leaving.
I've been given an option of three days a week which they want me to take, rather than leaving full stop.
I said I'd let them know tomorrow. Just need to talk it over with the wife.
I think you need to ask yourself if things will change.Manager was shocked. Immediately countered with reduced hours rather than leaving.
I've been given an option of three days a week which they want me to take, rather than leaving full stop.
I said I'd let them know tomorrow. Just need to talk it over with the wife.
Techically no reason you couldn't give it a go for 3 months / defined period set by you - and then walk.
Petroleum Gas said:
What would you guys do ?
Start looking for a new job.Agree with the above. Try it for a few months and then you are either happy or you walk.
Two days a week is also handy to speak to recruiters and have a good look around at what else is out there in the meantime.
Ultimately be aware that they’ve been screwing you all around so why would they suddenly change? But then again this could be a wake up call for them. Time will tell.
Good luck!
Two days a week is also handy to speak to recruiters and have a good look around at what else is out there in the meantime.
Ultimately be aware that they’ve been screwing you all around so why would they suddenly change? But then again this could be a wake up call for them. Time will tell.
Good luck!
I remember your thread from last year. You were in a pretty bad state back then. Is this the same job and things got better, or is a new job and the same stuff is happening again?
Either way, you're not a happy chappy. Its no way to live your life and if you just try to make things a little better, it won't last.
You need to work out what you want in life and go for it.
Either way, you're not a happy chappy. Its no way to live your life and if you just try to make things a little better, it won't last.
You need to work out what you want in life and go for it.
Vanordinaire said:
I remember your thread from last year. You were in a pretty bad state back then. Is this the same job and things got better, or is a new job and the same stuff is happening again?
Either way, you're not a happy chappy. Its no way to live your life and if you just try to make things a little better, it won't last.
You need to work out what you want in life and go for it.
I'm at a company linked to the old company. I managed to move to a different site and took a slightly different role.Either way, you're not a happy chappy. Its no way to live your life and if you just try to make things a little better, it won't last.
You need to work out what you want in life and go for it.
As you say, I'm still not happy. I do believe I need a complete change. I have had issues with confidence all of my life though (even though people don't realise this). I have always put up barriers. Recently, I've started to break the barriers down and this is leading to me finally deciding to do something about it.
The reduced hours will help. Yes, nothing will change, but it will give me enough time to look elsewhere whilst (while?
) keeping a chunk of money coming in.funkyrobot said:
Vanordinaire said:
I remember your thread from last year. You were in a pretty bad state back then. Is this the same job and things got better, or is a new job and the same stuff is happening again?
Either way, you're not a happy chappy. Its no way to live your life and if you just try to make things a little better, it won't last.
You need to work out what you want in life and go for it.
I'm at a company linked to the old company. I managed to move to a different site and took a slightly different role.Either way, you're not a happy chappy. Its no way to live your life and if you just try to make things a little better, it won't last.
You need to work out what you want in life and go for it.
As you say, I'm still not happy. I do believe I need a complete change. I have had issues with confidence all of my life though (even though people don't realise this). I have always put up barriers. Recently, I've started to break the barriers down and this is leading to me finally deciding to do something about it.
The reduced hours will help. Yes, nothing will change, but it will give me enough time to look elsewhere whilst (while?
) keeping a chunk of money coming in.I don't understand why they can immediately offer reduced hours now but last week it was restricted leave and enforced overtime on a 5 day week?
Unless another 5 people have just been recruited to fill the gaps across your team, who is going to pick up your minimum 2 days?
Unless I had satisfactory answers to that I would still be walking as nothing will change.
Unless another 5 people have just been recruited to fill the gaps across your team, who is going to pick up your minimum 2 days?
Unless I had satisfactory answers to that I would still be walking as nothing will change.
remedy said:
I don't understand why they can immediately offer reduced hours now but last week it was restricted leave and enforced overtime on a 5 day week?
Unless another 5 people have just been recruited to fill the gaps across your team, who is going to pick up your minimum 2 days?
Unless I had satisfactory answers to that I would still be walking as nothing will change.
Because they never considered that the OP would tell them to stuff their job! Now they realise he may be off, they’ve assumed a softer position.Unless another 5 people have just been recruited to fill the gaps across your team, who is going to pick up your minimum 2 days?
Unless I had satisfactory answers to that I would still be walking as nothing will change.
Just quit. Honestly. This half hearted approach is like keeping an unhappy dog on a longer leash but it’s still towing the line and not free.
When it suits them they’ll starting creeping in extra hours until you are back to square one. They are still the masters of YOUR future.
Look in th mirror and ask yourself if you really want out. You do - so cut the chain and get out; dont shackle yourself to a longer more flexible one fooling yourself that you are happier and free. It doesn’t solve the problem, just prolongs it.
When it suits them they’ll starting creeping in extra hours until you are back to square one. They are still the masters of YOUR future.
Look in th mirror and ask yourself if you really want out. You do - so cut the chain and get out; dont shackle yourself to a longer more flexible one fooling yourself that you are happier and free. It doesn’t solve the problem, just prolongs it.
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