Apply through agency or not?

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AlexC1981

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4,923 posts

217 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Hi All,

I'm in a quandary. I spoke to an agency about finding a job a few days ago. Today I was informed of a position to apply for and given a contact by colleague who knows someone who works there.

I was going to call the contact tomorrow, but the agency phoned me this evening and told me about the same position. I told the agent what had happened and he has recommended I apply through him as he thinks he can negotiate a better salary and says he has a good relationship with the manager there.

My thoughts are that the agency would be taking a cut of, I don't know 15%? So going solo would make me a more desirable candidate and possibly yield a better salary?

I haven't seen the job advertised, so I'm not exactly clear on what the potential salary is other than what the agency told me.


mcg_

1,445 posts

92 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Personally I’d go direct. Will cost them a lot of money to go through the agents, and will the agent really be able to get a better salary than you can get?

AndrewO

652 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th October 2018
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Agency will charge 15% or so of your salary as commission. Unlikely you will see an uplift, the manager will want you sitting in the same ballpark as your peers

AlexC1981

Original Poster:

4,923 posts

217 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Thanks, I'll give it some thought.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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going agency or not will make no difference to the recruiter only to the agency.

If you go alone he may then try to imply he told you about it first and cause bother so keep a record of what you told him when

jimPH

3,981 posts

80 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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What's the position and who with? We might be able assess the best action you should take.

bad company

18,573 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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I owned and managed an agency for 23 years.

In this instance you are better off applying direct, the agency is obviously looking for its fee. Just make sure that the agency hasn’t already made an application on your behalf. They should never do so without your consent but a few still do.

deckster

9,630 posts

255 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Adding to the chorus, go direct.

Of course the agent is going to tell you to go through him - that's his job. He'll say literally anything to get you to use his services. Once you're on the books though he will have very little interest in getting you a better salary as his commission will be impacted only a tiny amount by even a fairly significant uplift in your basic.

The very worst case is that the company's policies don't allow them to do direct recruitment and they'll insist you use the agency, but that would be unusual.

Dromedary66

1,924 posts

138 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Now the agent knows that you have a direct in to the company as well, he will have most likely have sent your cv to them speculatively. This will allow him to claim the commission as per their introductory t&c's in the event you join.


bad company

18,573 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Dromedary66 said:
Now the agent knows that you have a direct in to the company as well, he will have most likely have sent your cv to them speculatively. This will allow him to claim the commission as per their introductory t&c's in the event you join.
That would be illegal under data protection laws, the agent should never send a CV without permission from the candidate. I’m not saying it never happens but it shouldn’t.

Olivera

7,139 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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AlexC1981 said:
Thanks, I'll give it some thought.
Don't give it any thought - apply direct and don't answer the agent's calls.

bad company

18,573 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Olivera said:
AlexC1981 said:
Thanks, I'll give it some thought.
Don't give it any thought - apply direct and don't answer the agent's calls.
What’s wrong with apply direct and tell the agent that’s what you’ve done? No point in alienating an agent who may come up with something else advantageous to the op.

HantsRat

2,369 posts

108 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Go direct. If I was employeeing someone and had choice of:
A) Salary of person 1 plus 15% fee to agent
or
B) Salary of person 1

I know which one I'd choose.

You can usually find out the employers by googling the job spec from agent websites to circumvent them and apply direct.

bad company

18,573 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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HantsRat said:

You can usually find out the employers by googling the job spec from agent websites to circumvent them and apply direct.
Not if I or one of my people had advertised the job you wouldn’t. wink

Where is everyone getting 15% from? We charged between 17.5 & 22.5%, some were higher but 15% would be considered cheap.

crofty1984

15,858 posts

204 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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fk their holes. Apply directly.

AlexC1981

Original Poster:

4,923 posts

217 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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Thanks all. As it happens they were expecting my call anyway as my colleague who knows someone there mentioned to them that he had passed the details on.

bad company

18,573 posts

266 months

Thursday 18th October 2018
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AlexC1981 said:
Thanks all. As it happens they were expecting my call anyway as my colleague who knows someone there mentioned to them that he had passed the details on.
Good Luck. cool

TIGA84

5,206 posts

231 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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HantsRat said:
You can usually find out the employers by googling the job spec from agent websites to circumvent them and apply direct.
Not if they've got an RPO or MSP you can't - you'll be going through an agency regardless or how much of a sleuth you are.

bad company

18,573 posts

266 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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TIGA84 said:
Not if they've got an RPO or MSP you can't - you'll be going through an agency regardless or how much of a sleuth you are.
They may have an RPO or a MSP or they may prefer plain English. WTF is RPO or MSP? All these abbreviations can be a PIA IMO. laugh

Edited by bad company on Friday 19th October 15:37

AlexC1981

Original Poster:

4,923 posts

217 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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bad company said:
Good Luck. cool
Cheers! It seemed to go ok.