People at work with colds
Discussion
lyonspride said:
croyde said:
lyonspride said:
I've always said that it won't be climate change that kills the human race, it'll be a new virus.
It'll be touch screens. I won't touch public ones ie McDonalds ordering point. If I really must, I use a knuckle 
I've an incredibly s
t immune system, having to take penicillin daily, so feel your pain OP. Thankfully if any of my colleagues come in coughing and so forth I just pick my laptop up and go home, or tell them to sod off and work at home. What is a basic cold for them can be 2 weeks off work and trips to the GP for me. Not cool.
People coming into work when they're not well is counterproductive even if everyone is well, certainly in my sort of role where we can all work remotely with very little effort. There's sometimes some machismo about going into work when you're not well, but that's just silly. I had a friend who dragged himself into work when he wasn't well, and had a long term health condition, he went to the hospital that night and that was it he died, he was only 26.
t immune system, having to take penicillin daily, so feel your pain OP. Thankfully if any of my colleagues come in coughing and so forth I just pick my laptop up and go home, or tell them to sod off and work at home. What is a basic cold for them can be 2 weeks off work and trips to the GP for me. Not cool. People coming into work when they're not well is counterproductive even if everyone is well, certainly in my sort of role where we can all work remotely with very little effort. There's sometimes some machismo about going into work when you're not well, but that's just silly. I had a friend who dragged himself into work when he wasn't well, and had a long term health condition, he went to the hospital that night and that was it he died, he was only 26.
I came to the conclusion (and therefore asked the question in another thread) that it's maybe possible to catch a cold from the driver of the car in front of you.
I based this on the fact that I can smell the breath of them if they're smoking something.
So basically you're all fked, have a good weekend
I based this on the fact that I can smell the breath of them if they're smoking something.
So basically you're all f
ked, have a good weekend dasbimmerowner said:
I've an incredibly st immune system, having to take penicillin daily, so feel your pain OP. Thankfully if any of my colleagues come in coughing and so forth I just pick my laptop up and go home, or tell them to sod off and work at home. What is a basic cold for them can be 2 weeks off work and trips to the GP for me. Not cool.
People coming into work when they're not well is counterproductive even if everyone is well, certainly in my sort of role where we can all work remotely with very little effort. There's sometimes some machismo about going into work when you're not well, but that's just silly. I had a friend who dragged himself into work when he wasn't well, and had a long term health condition, he went to the hospital that night and that was it he died, he was only 26.
100% agree, however if i'm going to lose holiday for being sick, then f**k em all, i'm going in.t immune system, having to take penicillin daily, so feel your pain OP. Thankfully if any of my colleagues come in coughing and so forth I just pick my laptop up and go home, or tell them to sod off and work at home. What is a basic cold for them can be 2 weeks off work and trips to the GP for me. Not cool. People coming into work when they're not well is counterproductive even if everyone is well, certainly in my sort of role where we can all work remotely with very little effort. There's sometimes some machismo about going into work when you're not well, but that's just silly. I had a friend who dragged himself into work when he wasn't well, and had a long term health condition, he went to the hospital that night and that was it he died, he was only 26.
The real problem is people don't know how to stop the spread, they just think coughing/sneezing into their hand is all they have to do, THAT is how it spreads. Cold/flu doesn't survive in open air long enough to infect anyone, it's the surfaces they touch after coughing/sneezing into their hands, which spread the virus.
Edited by lyonspride on Saturday 16th November 10:41
I haven't taken any days off this year, I just haven't been ill.
But there are a handful at work who have been (genuinely) ill and had to take days off. Only they've taken too many days off and as such have decided to come into work even though they might have a cold/flu and should be at home. They come in so they don't get put on silly HR attendence improvement reports which could affect them getting any end of financial year bonuses.
But there are a handful at work who have been (genuinely) ill and had to take days off. Only they've taken too many days off and as such have decided to come into work even though they might have a cold/flu and should be at home. They come in so they don't get put on silly HR attendence improvement reports which could affect them getting any end of financial year bonuses.
my second last place of work, 3 instances of sickness in a year no matter what the duaration and you were pulled in for a no tea and biscuits meeting with HR. I get at least 5 colds a year, never mind migraines, injuries, minor ops fk wasting time off on the sniffles.
my last place I worked was the other way, too soft on fake sickness and 70% of the staff kicked the arse out it openly looking at it as free paid holiday or an easy way to get out of their week on the 24/7 standby rota. It put immense pressure on those of us left to do their work on top of ours.
Different kettle of fish now I am self employed, I have only missed 2 days work in 7 years, due to being in for a couple of minor ops.
I keep getting jokey money grabbing bd comments at one customers site, as one time I fell off a ladder and broke my arm, But I hadnt realised it was actually broken, so I finished off the job and got it signed off before going to the hospital. I did light duties and relied a lot more on my labourer for a few weeks but never missed a day.
k wasting time off on the sniffles.my last place I worked was the other way, too soft on fake sickness and 70% of the staff kicked the arse out it openly looking at it as free paid holiday or an easy way to get out of their week on the 24/7 standby rota. It put immense pressure on those of us left to do their work on top of ours.
Different kettle of fish now I am self employed, I have only missed 2 days work in 7 years, due to being in for a couple of minor ops.
I keep getting jokey money grabbing b
d comments at one customers site, as one time I fell off a ladder and broke my arm, But I hadnt realised it was actually broken, so I finished off the job and got it signed off before going to the hospital. I did light duties and relied a lot more on my labourer for a few weeks but never missed a day. I'm one of those workshy public sector shirkers workers who apparently has hundreds of sick days each year. I work as a nurse and have daily contact with many patients who have impaired immune systems as well as those who have a variety of weird and wonderful diseases.
I've got to take a risk as to whether my sniffle is just a sniffle, or is it something more sinister? I was once isolated due to having a faceful of phlegm from a man with severe tuberculosis - I felt well enough to work, sadly my employer forced me to go off until I was tested clear. I never caught TB or even develop any respiratory illness - on my return I had triggered on the sickness and absence policy.
So what should I do? Come to work and risk the health of my patients, or go off at the first hint of a sneeze? To complicate it, imagine if I was looking after a member of your family.
SD.
I've got to take a risk as to whether my sniffle is just a sniffle, or is it something more sinister? I was once isolated due to having a faceful of phlegm from a man with severe tuberculosis - I felt well enough to work, sadly my employer forced me to go off until I was tested clear. I never caught TB or even develop any respiratory illness - on my return I had triggered on the sickness and absence policy.
So what should I do? Come to work and risk the health of my patients, or go off at the first hint of a sneeze? To complicate it, imagine if I was looking after a member of your family.
SD.
shed driver said:
I'm one of those workshy public sector shirkers workers who apparently has hundreds of sick days each year. I work as a nurse and have daily contact with many patients who have impaired immune systems as well as those who have a variety of weird and wonderful diseases.
I've got to take a risk as to whether my sniffle is just a sniffle, or is it something more sinister? I was once isolated due to having a faceful of phlegm from a man with severe tuberculosis - I felt well enough to work, sadly my employer forced me to go off until I was tested clear. I never caught TB or even develop any respiratory illness - on my return I had triggered on the sickness and absence policy.
So what should I do? Come to work and risk the health of my patients, or go off at the first hint of a sneeze? To complicate it, imagine if I was looking after a member of your family.
SD.
Pretty obvious if you're employer sent you home then you have no worries. I've got to take a risk as to whether my sniffle is just a sniffle, or is it something more sinister? I was once isolated due to having a faceful of phlegm from a man with severe tuberculosis - I felt well enough to work, sadly my employer forced me to go off until I was tested clear. I never caught TB or even develop any respiratory illness - on my return I had triggered on the sickness and absence policy.
So what should I do? Come to work and risk the health of my patients, or go off at the first hint of a sneeze? To complicate it, imagine if I was looking after a member of your family.
SD.
Just get it in an email. ;-)
xjay1337 said:
shed driver said:
I'm one of those workshy public sector shirkers workers who apparently has hundreds of sick days each year. I work as a nurse and have daily contact with many patients who have impaired immune systems as well as those who have a variety of weird and wonderful diseases.
I've got to take a risk as to whether my sniffle is just a sniffle, or is it something more sinister? I was once isolated due to having a faceful of phlegm from a man with severe tuberculosis - I felt well enough to work, sadly my employer forced me to go off until I was tested clear. I never caught TB or even develop any respiratory illness - on my return I had triggered on the sickness and absence policy.
So what should I do? Come to work and risk the health of my patients, or go off at the first hint of a sneeze? To complicate it, imagine if I was looking after a member of your family.
SD.
Pretty obvious if you're employer sent you home then you have no worries. I've got to take a risk as to whether my sniffle is just a sniffle, or is it something more sinister? I was once isolated due to having a faceful of phlegm from a man with severe tuberculosis - I felt well enough to work, sadly my employer forced me to go off until I was tested clear. I never caught TB or even develop any respiratory illness - on my return I had triggered on the sickness and absence policy.
So what should I do? Come to work and risk the health of my patients, or go off at the first hint of a sneeze? To complicate it, imagine if I was looking after a member of your family.
SD.
Just get it in an email. ;-)
These days we'd all do well to remember that not only can the IT dept access your work email account, but your manager can at any time he/she pleases thanks to Outlook. You probably don't have the password for your email account, but your manager does and can access your email at any time via web browser.
lyonspride said:
And print off (or PDF) a copy of said email.
These days we'd all do well to remember that not only can the IT dept access your work email account, but your manager can at any time he/she pleases thanks to Outlook. You probably don't have the password for your email account, but your manager does and can access your email at any time via web browser.
Everywhere I have worked this would need a request into IT and probably approval from higher up the food chain first. It's a bit of a tin foil hat post!These days we'd all do well to remember that not only can the IT dept access your work email account, but your manager can at any time he/she pleases thanks to Outlook. You probably don't have the password for your email account, but your manager does and can access your email at any time via web browser.
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
lyonspride said:
And print off (or PDF) a copy of said email.
These days we'd all do well to remember that not only can the IT dept access your work email account, but your manager can at any time he/she pleases thanks to Outlook. You probably don't have the password for your email account, but your manager does and can access your email at any time via web browser.
Everywhere I have worked this would need a request into IT and probably approval from higher up the food chain first. It's a bit of a tin foil hat post!These days we'd all do well to remember that not only can the IT dept access your work email account, but your manager can at any time he/she pleases thanks to Outlook. You probably don't have the password for your email account, but your manager does and can access your email at any time via web browser.
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
lyonspride said:
And print off (or PDF) a copy of said email.
These days we'd all do well to remember that not only can the IT dept access your work email account, but your manager can at any time he/she pleases thanks to Outlook. You probably don't have the password for your email account, but your manager does and can access your email at any time via web browser.
Everywhere I have worked this would need a request into IT and probably approval from higher up the food chain first. It's a bit of a tin foil hat post!These days we'd all do well to remember that not only can the IT dept access your work email account, but your manager can at any time he/she pleases thanks to Outlook. You probably don't have the password for your email account, but your manager does and can access your email at any time via web browser.
The real reason behind this is how Office now saves copies of your office documents to "the cloud", these become accessible via your email account and your boss can basically not only see your emails, but also see your documents and of course your calender. Now this does have to be set up, but it's not difficult to do and if you don't have your Outlook password and don't access your email via web browser, then this is probably why.
It was only by accident that I found this out, i'd been given my email password and I access my account online, I noticed all the document i'd created were accessible there AND that all of it was shared with certain users (the management). If i'd not accessed this via browser I'd probably never have guessed.
lyonspride said:
Before Outlook live/365/whatever yes....... But it seems to have changed now that most companies are not hosting their own email.
The real reason behind this is how Office now saves copies of your office documents to "the cloud", these become accessible via your email account and your boss can basically not only see your emails, but also see your documents and of course your calender. Now this does have to be set up, but it's not difficult to do and if you don't have your Outlook password and don't access your email via web browser, then this is probably why.
It was only by accident that I found this out, i'd been given my email password and I access my account online, I noticed all the document i'd created were accessible there AND that all of it was shared with certain users (the management). If i'd not accessed this via browser I'd probably never have guessed.
I work for a big blue-chip company. Our email is Office 365 and it isn't set up like that. I'm sure they could get access to your emails but it wouldn't be your line manager. It would be a request through IT from someone high up, followed by a 3-week wait whilst someone got round to dealing with the ticket. The real reason behind this is how Office now saves copies of your office documents to "the cloud", these become accessible via your email account and your boss can basically not only see your emails, but also see your documents and of course your calender. Now this does have to be set up, but it's not difficult to do and if you don't have your Outlook password and don't access your email via web browser, then this is probably why.
It was only by accident that I found this out, i'd been given my email password and I access my account online, I noticed all the document i'd created were accessible there AND that all of it was shared with certain users (the management). If i'd not accessed this via browser I'd probably never have guessed.
We had someone airing their grievances with HR via a company-wide distribution list (~50,000 people) which took nearly a week for IT to stop. Every morning the company would tune in for another installment as various senior VPs tried to calm this particular individual down and get IT to disable her account
RTB said:
lyonspride said:
Before Outlook live/365/whatever yes....... But it seems to have changed now that most companies are not hosting their own email.
The real reason behind this is how Office now saves copies of your office documents to "the cloud", these become accessible via your email account and your boss can basically not only see your emails, but also see your documents and of course your calender. Now this does have to be set up, but it's not difficult to do and if you don't have your Outlook password and don't access your email via web browser, then this is probably why.
It was only by accident that I found this out, i'd been given my email password and I access my account online, I noticed all the document i'd created were accessible there AND that all of it was shared with certain users (the management). If i'd not accessed this via browser I'd probably never have guessed.
I work for a big blue-chip company. Our email is Office 365 and it isn't set up like that. I'm sure they could get access to your emails but it wouldn't be your line manager. It would be a request through IT from someone high up, followed by a 3-week wait whilst someone got round to dealing with the ticket. The real reason behind this is how Office now saves copies of your office documents to "the cloud", these become accessible via your email account and your boss can basically not only see your emails, but also see your documents and of course your calender. Now this does have to be set up, but it's not difficult to do and if you don't have your Outlook password and don't access your email via web browser, then this is probably why.
It was only by accident that I found this out, i'd been given my email password and I access my account online, I noticed all the document i'd created were accessible there AND that all of it was shared with certain users (the management). If i'd not accessed this via browser I'd probably never have guessed.
We had someone airing their grievances with HR via a company-wide distribution list (~50,000 people) which took nearly a week for IT to stop. Every morning the company would tune in for another installment as various senior VPs tried to calm this particular individual down and get IT to disable her account
There's also a major trust problem, bosses don't trust anyone with anything, we're all lazy thieves.
Your st employer aside, there are so many problems with "nowadays everyone can see your emails and stuff anyway and Cloud and Office365" it's unreal.
Office365 is no less secure in that regard than having it on your duct-taped server. In fact, arguable, it's far better a place for it if that is how bad things really are...
t employer aside, there are so many problems with "nowadays everyone can see your emails and stuff anyway and Cloud and Office365" it's unreal.Office365 is no less secure in that regard than having it on your duct-taped server. In fact, arguable, it's far better a place for it if that is how bad things really are...
RTB said:
We had someone airing their grievances with HR via a company-wide distribution list (~50,000 people) which took nearly a week for IT to stop. Every morning the company would tune in for another installment as various senior VPs tried to calm this particular individual down and get IT to disable her account
Then IT were incompetent. Very few people should have the ability to send to a 50k DL and it is the work of moments to change the permissions on it, or to suspend her account.vaud said:
Then IT were incompetent. Very few people should have the ability to send to a 50k DL and it is the work of moments to change the permissions on it or to suspend her account.
I don't recall what position the lady had (quite senior I think) but I do know that the emails started on a Friday and we were still getting them on the Wednesday morning when her account was suspended. It was both funny and sad. The lady in question was obviously not very well. I did wonder why it took so long to stop. Maybe IT wanted to see how it played out Gassing Station | Jobs & Employment Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff