Physical assault at work

[Thankyou4calling]

Hold on

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Can someone please confirm whether this story was made up or not?

[anonymous-user]

Thankyou4calling said:

Hold on

HOLD ON

Can someone please confirm whether this story was made up or not?

OP, OP can you please confirm the above please?

[funkyrobot]

Tyre Smoke said:

I was thinking that.

Anyway, back on topic, FR if what you have posted is true, then you should be asking your company why they have permitted her to continue to work when she was witnessed by a manager assaulting you for no apparent reason. You should also report the assault to the police and contact ACAS/Union because your company is not treating you fairly. In fact if you ae the victim of an unprovoked assault, then you are being unfairly singled out.

Thanks. Yes it's true.

I will be talking to my company and asking questions when they next speak to me. The investigation is supposed to have begun today.

Thanks to this thread I've got more information to use now and more questions to ask.

I have booked an appointment with the doctors for later. I suffer from general anxiety disorder and this event hit me hard last night. It's really set back some of the work I've done over the last few years to try and get better.

Although I need to report this to the police, I'm somewhat scared of doing so.

Thanks again to everyone who has been helpful.

[funkyrobot]

xjay1337 said:

funkyrobot said:

No apology that I can recall. She just said she didn't know why she did it.

Thing is, if she does this, what is to stop her escalating the next event.

As mentioned above, she has got away with so much. I'm expecting to be told off later for being in the way of her hand, or hurting her hand.

Edited by funkyrobot on Monday 27th January 14:10

Jesus. Things are not going well for you at the minute.

Hopefully she gets fired.

I would report to police if she doesn't get fired. I would think losing her job punishment enough.

Thanks. Indeed, things are tough at the moment.

This thread does highlight one thing to me though, and that is bullies do not just reside in school. It's crazy to think that there are supposedly grown adults circling on here trying to virtually bully people. What a cesspit the internet can be eh.

In relation to the work matter, I'm in the dark at the moment. Today is a full work day there and I won't be surprised if I don't hear anything until tomorrow.

[lyonspride]

Tyre Smoke said:

I was thinking that.

Anyway, back on topic, FR if what you have posted is true, then you should be asking your company why they have permitted her to continue to work when she was witnessed by a manager assaulting you for no apparent reason. You should also report the assault to the police and contact ACAS/Union because your company is not treating you fairly. In fact if you ae the victim of an unprovoked assault, then you are being unfairly singled out.

Because women have "features" that managers like.

[vaud]

funkyrobot said:

Although I need to report this to the police, I'm somewhat scared of doing so.

Just call 101. Victim support is very good (generally). You can always withdraw your statement later (though they still might prosecute if they have enough other evidence)

[funkyrobot]

lyonspride said:

Tyre Smoke said:

I was thinking that.

Anyway, back on topic, FR if what you have posted is true, then you should be asking your company why they have permitted her to continue to work when she was witnessed by a manager assaulting you for no apparent reason. You should also report the assault to the police and contact ACAS/Union because your company is not treating you fairly. In fact if you ae the victim of an unprovoked assault, then you are being unfairly singled out.

Because women have "features" that managers like.

They must be extra special because the management team at my place of work are all female.

[funkyrobot]

vaud said:

funkyrobot said:

Although I need to report this to the police, I'm somewhat scared of doing so.

Just call 101. Victim support is very good (generally). You can always withdraw your statement later (though they still might prosecute if they have enough other evidence)

Thanks. I will call them now. Have some time before I pick my daughter up from school.

[Thankyou4calling]

Thanks FR.

All the best and I hope it’s resolved satisfactorily

[edc]

This would be a typical response for alleged violence in the work place and the sort of thing I have done.

De-escalate incident. Suspend on pay pending investigation. Then carry out your usual 3 step if needed investigation / disciplinary procedure. Investigate grievance where one may be submitted. Implement outcomes and recommendations.

[SmoothCriminal]

Thankyou4calling said:

Hold on

HOLD ON

Can someone please confirm whether this story was made up or not?

I'm leaning for the attention seeking aspect people have speculated.

What kind of organisation or outfit suspends the victim and lets the aggressor carry on as normal.

Also how many people randomly get attacked in the work place for no apparent reason and infront of a manager to boot.

/inb4internetBULLY

[Cyberprog]

It should be management 101 if you witness an assault. Seperate the two parties, find out if the person who was assaulted wants to take things further and if so contact the police. Have the assaulter stay in a seperate area (office etc.) until the police arrive and take statements and any evidence (cctv etc.). If the police think there's enough evidence they will make an arrest and you send the asaultee home for the rest of the day.

Either way, you capture statements from everyone in writing, and start a formal disiplinary procedure. The assaulter is either nicked or sent home and told not to return until instructed otherwise and that they are placed on unpaid leave until otherwise advised. You then get someone else in management involved if you have them, and they can then conduct an investigation, call in the asaultee and asulter to talk to. Then, ultimately, you sack the asaulter for gross misconduct if appropriate. You can't have people like that around, either way if you did keep them on, you'd need to look to minimise their interaction with the asultee - different shifts/branches etc.

[funkyrobot]

SmoothCriminal said:

I'm leaning for the attention seeking aspect people have speculated.

What kind of organisation or outfit suspends the victim and lets the aggressor carry on as normal.

Also how many people randomly get attacked in the work place for no apparent reason and infront of a manager to boot.

/inb4internetBULLY

I am not suspended. I got asked if I wanted monday evening off on full pay. I said yes.

The investigation with my colleague was supposed to start today.

I'm back in work tomorrow where I shall ask for an update and ask questions I have picked up from this thread.

The next time I'm due to work with the woman who slapped me is Thursday. I'm going to tell them tomorrow I dont want to work with her anymore and see what happens from there.

Yes, my place of work is utterly incompetent. HR arent based on site either, they are based 80 odd miles away.

I will be going in tomorrow much better informed thanks to this thread. I'm also not taking any rubbish and want to know why the woman wasnt immediately sent home on Saturday.

That's where we are with this at the moment I'm afraid. Up to you if you choose to believe me.

[funkyrobot]

The only reason there is an investigation is because I asked for one. Just after the slap, the supervisor in work said 'I'll have a word with her'. If I had left it, that would have been it. No further action.

Incompetence at its finest I would say.

[funkyrobot]

Thankyou4calling said:

Thanks FR.

All the best and I hope it’s resolved satisfactorily

Mentioned the incident at the docs tonight so it's logged there too.

They want me on antidepressants and and sleep medicine.

[vaud]

SmoothCriminal said:

What kind of organisation or outfit suspends the victim and lets the aggressor carry on as normal.

There are still many crappy companies about. Poor management (poorly trained management) who don't understand the ramifications of their actions or who have a fear of calling HR, thinking it will reflect badly on them... just push it under the carpet and hope no-one complains.

[cossy400]

OP if your work place know that shes "unstable", can someone more informed than me tell me if this is like a get out clause for them not just firing her?

Sounds a stty situation all round and not good its effecting your health now too.

[vaud]

cossy400 said:

OP if your work place know that shes "unstable", can someone more informed than me tell me if this is like a get out clause for them not just firing her?

A mental health condition leading to an assault is not a protection from being fired for misconduct (IANAL).

[funkyrobot]

anonymous said:

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The supervisor who witnessed the slap will not do anything without asking the main manager first. Numerous times we have enquired about day to day stuff and she always says she needs to check with the other manager.

As I said above, initially the supervisor on Saturday just wanted to have a word with the lady who slapped me. That would have been it. No record of the event or anything else.

When I stated I wanted to complain she asked me to write a statement. This statement would the be passed on to the main manager who was uncontactable all weekend.

When I went in yesterday afternoon to do another statement (despite the fact i had already written one, printed it out and handed it in on sunday), the main manager said she had only known about the issue for a few hours. She told me she had contacted HR, was waiting for a response and the investigation was due to start today.

Supervisor wouldn't do anything without main manager and main manager wouldn't do anything without HR. Despite the glaringly obvious things like suspension for the aggressor.

[funkyrobot]

I've just had a message from a colleague to say the woman who slapped me is in work today. She is moaning a lot.

I guess they aren't suspending her then.

Think I need to crank this up a gear tomorrow. This simply is not on.