Women uncomfortable with transgender employee in toilet

[Olas]

label the toilets as “XX” and “XY”

There can be no arguments or misunderstandings after this.


Stop making an issue of something that can be fixed with a Sharpie marker

Edited by Olas on Friday 21st February 15:23

[geeks]

anonymous said:

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I have never understood the lack of shame someone feels leaving a toilet in a state, you made a mess, clean it up FFS! Also those dirty s who wipe bogeys on the wall, there is fking tissue dispenser of some description in the stall with you..

[joshcowin]

designforlife said:

I'd be tempted to leave the toilets exactly as they are and send every woman who has complained on a gender equality awareness course.

The trans member of staff isn't the problem, they are.

OR not feed this stupid situation, let people from the appropriate sex use their appropriate toilets!

[Olas]

joshcowin said:

OR not feed this stupid situation, let people from the appropriate sex use their appropriate toilets!

Not possible when sex change operations are available.

Let people with the appropriate chromosomes use their appropriate toilet.

[Leylandeye]

designforlife said:

I'd be tempted to leave the toilets exactly as they are and send every woman who has complained on a gender equality awareness course.

The trans member of staff isn't the problem, they are.

In our society, many women feel uncomfortable about sharing a toilet with someone who isn't a woman.

I hear today that about 30 women have said that they are uncomfortable with the situation but what bothers them more is that there is nothing to protect how they feel when that feeling is a common response in our society.

Will a gender equality awareness course change the deep routed feelings that they have grown up with and have been surrounded by all their lives?

If anything, it is dismissing the feelings of the majority in the favour of a minority and the majority are being made to feel wrong.

Is that fair and reasonable?

[condor]

I suggest changing the disabled to disabled and transgender . As disabled is clearly unisex.

[bitchstewie]

Leylandeye said:

In our society, many women feel uncomfortable about sharing a toilet with someone who isn't a woman.

I hear today that about 30 women have said that they are uncomfortable with the situation but what bothers them more is that there is nothing to protect how they feel when that feeling is a common response in our society.

Will a gender equality awareness course change the deep routed feelings that they have grown up with and have been surrounded by all their lives?

If anything, it is dismissing the feelings of the majority in the favour of a minority and the majority are being made to feel wrong.

Is that fair and reasonable?

What do they do if they go into the toilet whilst it's being cleaned if the cleaner is male?

I've gone into enough toilets in enough countries whilst there's someone in there cleaning and it really doesn't turn into some awkward "Hmm you're a woman could you wait outside whilst I pee" conversation.

I don't get people sometimes

[geeks]

condor said:

I suggest changing the disabled to disabled and transgender . As disabled is clearly unisex.

Exactly, Mrs geeks has never once complained the disabled toilets are unisex, she has complained when she has needed to go and some selfish arse is in there laying some cable though.

[geeks]

JuniorD said:

geeks said:

condor said:

I suggest changing the disabled to disabled and transgender . As disabled is clearly unisex.

Exactly, Mrs geeks has never once complained the disabled toilets are unisex, she has complained when she has needed to go and some selfish arse is in there laying some cable though.

But is it not the right of the male-to-female transgender person to use the female bogs? In which case why should they be forced to use some other toilet? Especially if they are a male-female-lesbian transgender person and want to get their kicks from hearing women piss and/or the chance of a gander at some flange. Or alternatively, if they are male-female-transgender person, but maintain straight male sexuality, and want to get their kicks from hearing women piss and/or the chance of a gander at some flange.

I think I have straws in the kitchen if you were looking for something to grasp at....

[Olas]

Paint one door in rainbow colours.

[BugLebowski]

Good luck, this sounds like a Twitter pile-on waiting to happen no matter how it's dealt with.

[irocfan]

anonymous said:

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TBF Mrs Iroc has told me that in her experience the women's bogs can be pretty downright revolting too.

[designforlife]

irocfan said:

TBF Mrs Iroc has told me that in her experience the women's bogs can be pretty downright revolting too.

Yeha my missus has said that in her experience women's toilets are usually in a far, far worse state than mens.

[anonymous-user]

Leylandeye said:

Will a gender equality awareness course change the deep routed feelings that they have grown up with and have been surrounded by all their lives?

Not in the slightest, but the course will drum into the women that they have to pretend that the trans woman is a woman or else they are in trouble with HR and possibly the trans person could top themselves and it will be all the women fault or something along those lines.

[vixen1700]

designforlife said:

Yeha my missus has said that in her experience women's toilets are usually in a far, far worse state than mens.

Thirded.

My wife said the same about her toilets in a big City bank. st, piss, blood.

She saw a woman once having a st with the door open whilst eating on orange from her lap.

[Tim2k9]

Why would you want to use the toilet with the bigger queue.

And on that topic, none of the females at a concert seemed to have any shame in using the male urinals when their queue was out the door.

[Munter]

Leylandeye said:

In our society, many whites feel uncomfortable about sharing a toilet with someone who is black.

I hear today that about 30 whites have said that they are uncomfortable with the situation but what bothers them more is that there is nothing to protect how they feel when that feeling is a common response in our society.

Will a race equality awareness course change the deep routed feelings that they have grown up with and have been surrounded by all their lives?

If anything, it is dismissing the feelings of the majority in the favour of a minority and the majority are being made to feel wrong.

Is that fair and reasonable?

Yes I edited what you said. But this is the equivalent of what you are saying (pre-equality laws).

The ladies have to learn to grow up and join a free and liberal society. Or leave for Russia.

They have cubicles, I'd suggest they shut the doors and worry less about what body parts other members of staff may or may not have.

I'd also think it's because they suddenly feel like they no longer have a space where they can be sexist about other people. But would totally object to "men only" social clubs of any kind.

Women were at the forefront of fighting for equality. This has now been largely provided. It's too late to complain if it's not what was desired.

[irocfan]

Leylandeye said:

The problem with this is that the existing toilets don't lend themselves to just a change in sign.

The company already has difficulty in retaining staff as there is a shortage of people with the right skill sets and some of the women are already talking about looking to go elsewhere because of this.

I think the solution is to change the toilets to be unsexed - i.e. separate rooms with their own handbasin, floor to ceiling walls.

The staff also need to be asked to be understanding of working in a modern workplace where the law supports the transgender person's rights as they are a minority.

why would hand-basins need to be contained within the cubicle?

[Munter]

Alan535 said:

for frankly a voyuer

What exactly do you do in the toilets that you think this is what someones plan is? Like a good stare to other people in the toilets do we?

[vixen1700]

Alan535 said:

It should either use the toilets of its birth sex or the disabled ,a very suitable title for frankly a voyuer who thinks the world should accomodate them.

It?

Really? Wow, talk about showing ignorance.