Women uncomfortable with transgender employee in toilet

[gregs656]

Johnnytheboy said:

It's not in the least annoying.... so long as saying "mastectomy" is still acceptable.

For sure it is.

[gregs656]

Iwantafusca said:

Top surgery is a lovely sweet trans euphemism for it , trying to down play all that it entails. Same with bottom surgery , it’s almost prudish !

Except you have already posted a description which outlines the risks.

I’m confident that Elliot page who had the surgery and described it as top surgery has a clearer understanding of what it entails than you or I do.

[anonymous-user]

gregs656 said:

Johnnytheboy said:

It's not in the least annoying.... so long as saying "mastectomy" is still acceptable.

For sure it is.

It’s strange that things that effect women have to change ie pregnant people , people with a cervix etc , but men ? Still prostrate is a male issue never “people with a prostrate “ wonder why ?

[anonymous-user]

gregs656 said:

Iwantafusca said:

Top surgery is a lovely sweet trans euphemism for it , trying to down play all that it entails. Same with bottom surgery , it’s almost prudish !

Except you have already posted a description which outlines the risks.

I’m confident that Elliot page who had the surgery and described it as top surgery has a clearer understanding of what it entails than you or I do.

Let’s see what happens with Elliot.

Someone with mental health issues taking this drastic step is worrying to say the least. Hopefully they are wealthy enough to have the best care both physically and mentally, unlike the majority of girls who could be influenced by Elliot.

[boyse7en]

Iwantafusca said:

It’s strange that things that effect women have to change ie pregnant people , people with a cervix etc , but men ? Still prostrate is a male issue never “people with a prostrate “ wonder why ?

It's like they are laying down on the job

[Man of gas]

Iwantafusca said:

It’s strange that things that effect women have to change ie pregnant people , people with a cervix etc , but men ? Still prostrate is a male issue never “people with a prostrate “ wonder why ?

It’s a Prostate gland, many of my patients are Prostrate after my anaesthetic however ;-)

[tribalsurfer]

Bottom surgery is really going to be confusing.

[gregs656]

Iwantafusca said:

Let’s see what happens with Elliot.

Someone with mental health issues taking this drastic step is worrying to say the least. Hopefully they are wealthy enough to have the best care both physically and mentally, unlike the majority of girls who could be influenced by Elliot.

I’m sure your concern is valued by him, perhaps you could also explain they surgery he’s had to him. You seem to be much better informed on his well-being than he is.

[david-j8694]

anonymous said:

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LOL I am sat at my desk desperately trying to stifle my laughter. Holding it in is making my eyes go teary haha

Brightened up another crappy Monday morning.

[tarquin274]

romeogolf said:

CoolHands said:

Here’s a current example. I would strongly suggest nobody comments at all on this topic unless you’re retired and can afford to not worry. This is the world we live in.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9516987/T...

Maya Forstater wasn't fired or sacked. She was on a temporary contract which was not renewed. The decision for this was not based on her tweets alone, but on her comments within the workplace which, in the words of the judge, were 'not worthy of respect in democratic society'.

She also won her appeal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/10/maya-f...

[lyonspride]

tarquin274 said:

romeogolf said:

CoolHands said:

Here’s a current example. I would strongly suggest nobody comments at all on this topic unless you’re retired and can afford to not worry. This is the world we live in.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9516987/T...

Maya Forstater wasn't fired or sacked. She was on a temporary contract which was not renewed. The decision for this was not based on her tweets alone, but on her comments within the workplace which, in the words of the judge, were 'not worthy of respect in democratic society'.

She also won her appeal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/10/maya-f...

She won the appeal because of her right to her own beliefs, but she lost the original trial because she used her beliefs to bully and harass people.

[anonymous-user]

lyonspride said:

tarquin274 said:

romeogolf said:

CoolHands said:

Here’s a current example. I would strongly suggest nobody comments at all on this topic unless you’re retired and can afford to not worry. This is the world we live in.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9516987/T...

Maya Forstater wasn't fired or sacked. She was on a temporary contract which was not renewed. The decision for this was not based on her tweets alone, but on her comments within the workplace which, in the words of the judge, were 'not worthy of respect in democratic society'.

She also won her appeal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/10/maya-f...

She won the appeal because of her right to her own beliefs, but she lost the original trial because she used her beliefs to bully and harass people.

Can you provide links to where she bullied and harassed people ?

[anonymous-user]

https://mforstater.medium.com/five-myths-and-truth...

[mrporsche]

tarquin274 said:

She also won her appeal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/10/maya-f...

That is good news.

Twitter will be awash with very angry very aggressive trans people - I will go and have a look !!

[Munter]

mrporsche said:

That is good news.

Twitter will be awash with very angry very aggressive trans people - I will go and have a look !!

They do seem very angry that their rights to not be discriminated against have been specifically upheld by the judge.

[Pugaris]

Iwantafusca said:

https://mforstater.medium.com/five-myths-and-truth...

This is hardly an unbiased source, but I absolutely love the first part of this...

'article' said:

Myth 1: “She didn’t lose her job, her contract wasn’t renewed”

'article' said:

Truth: I was a Visiting Fellow at the Center for Global Development (CGD) from November 2016 with a series of consultancy contracts and the expectation of an ongoing relationship.

Her 'Truth' doesn't contradict the claim, it supports it.

[anonymous-user]

Pugaris said:

Iwantafusca said:

https://mforstater.medium.com/five-myths-and-truth...

This is hardly an unbiased source, but I absolutely love the first part of this...

'article' said:

Myth 1: “She didn’t lose her job, her contract wasn’t renewed”

'article' said:

Truth: I was a Visiting Fellow at the Center for Global Development (CGD) from November 2016 with a series of consultancy contracts and the expectation of an ongoing relationship.

Her 'Truth' doesn't contradict the claim, it supports it.

https://lesbianandgaynews.com/2021/05/fact-checking-forstater-dealing-with-the-eight-maya-myths-by-lgn-legal-commentator-dennis-kavanagh/

More support for what actually happened.

[Drawweight]

Iwantafusca said:

Pugaris said:

Iwantafusca said:

https://mforstater.medium.com/five-myths-and-truth...

This is hardly an unbiased source, but I absolutely love the first part of this...

'article' said:

Myth 1: “She didn’t lose her job, her contract wasn’t renewed”

'article' said:

Truth: I was a Visiting Fellow at the Center for Global Development (CGD) from November 2016 with a series of consultancy contracts and the expectation of an ongoing relationship.

Her 'Truth' doesn't contradict the claim, it supports it.

https://lesbianandgaynews.com/2021/05/fact-checking-forstater-dealing-with-the-eight-maya-myths-by-lgn-legal-commentator-dennis-kavanagh/

More support for what actually happened.

This may be a case of ‘Who fact checks the fact checkers?’ but a wild guess says that the Lesbianandgaynews.com may have a slight bias to it.

[lyonspride]

Drawweight said:

Iwantafusca said:

Pugaris said:

Iwantafusca said:

https://mforstater.medium.com/five-myths-and-truth...

This is hardly an unbiased source, but I absolutely love the first part of this...

'article' said:

Myth 1: “She didn’t lose her job, her contract wasn’t renewed”

'article' said:

Truth: I was a Visiting Fellow at the Center for Global Development (CGD) from November 2016 with a series of consultancy contracts and the expectation of an ongoing relationship.

Her 'Truth' doesn't contradict the claim, it supports it.

https://lesbianandgaynews.com/2021/05/fact-checking-forstater-dealing-with-the-eight-maya-myths-by-lgn-legal-commentator-dennis-kavanagh/

More support for what actually happened.

This may be a case of ‘Who fact checks the fact checkers?’ but a wild guess says that the Lesbianandgaynews.com may have a slight bias to it.

A brief look through their content shows a distinctly unpleasant agenda

[anonymous-user]

lyonspride said:

Drawweight said:

Iwantafusca said:

Pugaris said:

Iwantafusca said:

https://mforstater.medium.com/five-myths-and-truth...

This is hardly an unbiased source, but I absolutely love the first part of this...

'article' said:

Myth 1: “She didn’t lose her job, her contract wasn’t renewed”

'article' said:

Truth: I was a Visiting Fellow at the Center for Global Development (CGD) from November 2016 with a series of consultancy contracts and the expectation of an ongoing relationship.

Her 'Truth' doesn't contradict the claim, it supports it.

https://lesbianandgaynews.com/2021/05/fact-checking-forstater-dealing-with-the-eight-maya-myths-by-lgn-legal-commentator-dennis-kavanagh/

More support for what actually happened.

This may be a case of ‘Who fact checks the fact checkers?’ but a wild guess says that the Lesbianandgaynews.com may have a slight bias to it.

A brief look through their content shows a distinctly unpleasant agenda

Unpleasant as in supporting L&G ?