Jacking in your job
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Fusion777 said:
Monkeylegend said:
Why would you want to stagnate for another 10 years in a company like that, it will be soul destroying if you have any desire to progress further career wise.
In 10 years time when things have not changed and you reassess, your career will demonstrate a distinct lack of ambition and will signal one of two things too a potential new employer, either you were not good enough, or lacked the desire to progress further.
At 40 ish most people have reached their optimum level. They call it a mid life crisis for a reason, that's the time you make decisions about sticking things out, not in your early 30's.
You will look back on 10 wasted years and regret not doing something about it now.
Agreed. Ten years is a loonnggg time. By 40 you may not have the energy/enthusiasm/drive to make the change you want. By all means stick it out for a bit longer if you want, but only if you think something will change in that time (personnel/roles, etc). In 10 years time when things have not changed and you reassess, your career will demonstrate a distinct lack of ambition and will signal one of two things too a potential new employer, either you were not good enough, or lacked the desire to progress further.
At 40 ish most people have reached their optimum level. They call it a mid life crisis for a reason, that's the time you make decisions about sticking things out, not in your early 30's.
You will look back on 10 wasted years and regret not doing something about it now.
Generally speaking, organisational culture doesn’t change that much at a particular workplace.
Rob_125 said:
It's a tough one because I do actually enjoy what I do. Salary is fair, earnings are really good, start and stop times work for me and its only a 7 mile cycle away. I was hoping the female colleague would take up the mantle within the next 12 months, which could have changed the whole dynamic for the better. It is just managed by people who can't manage/prioritise/be decisive and don't try to foster talent. I have no further aspirations to grow into senior management at this time as I enjoy fixing things.
You just have to assess if the bad outweighs the good. There’s good and bad in most things. 
Monkeylegend said:
You will look back on 10 wasted years and regret not doing something about it now.
Yes. I was in that position and still am...On the plus side, I have no money worries.
On the minus, I feel no sense of satisfaction or achievement from work at all. I could leave this afternoon and not think about it ever again.
V8mate said:
Woodrow Wilson said:
V8mate said:
I think you need to accept that all PAYE jobs are s
t, and then trying to build a bit of meaning to your life from there.I build meaning in my life outside of work, but life has been on hold for 40ish hours per week for years on end and that needs to change.
h, no matter how rosy some in the latter category like to insist otherwise.Woodrow Wilson said:
V8mate said:
Woodrow Wilson said:
V8mate said:
I think you need to accept that all PAYE jobs are s
t, and then trying to build a bit of meaning to your life from there.I build meaning in my life outside of work, but life has been on hold for 40ish hours per week for years on end and that needs to change.
h, no matter how rosy some in the latter category like to insist otherwise.My point, as you seem determined to evade it, is simply that working for other people sucks. By design.
You have no right or expectation to enjoy your work - it's a Millennial fantasy. That's why it's called work. If it was great, it'd be called fun.
Composite Guru said:
Up to last April I’ve been working in F1 for the last 23 years and made my way up to a Production Engineer for the last 10 years.
Basically there were 2 people doing the job but then the company decided to lay off the other guy and this decision firmly placed all the pressure on my doorstep.
After the Covid stuff I decided that life was too short and got out of the sport and do something different.
Been through a few different jobs since then but now settled down into a nice little sub assy job doing normal hours and got my life back without all the stress.
Since I left there are now 4 people doing my job. Say no more.
I’m happy and looking forward.
Fair play to you. I'm a laminator in F1 and I'm absolutely sick of it. I have done various supervisory/production engineering roles but similar to yourself, doing the work of 4 people and ended up going back on the tools. It's a bit of a money trap though, I'm not sure what else to do really! Basically there were 2 people doing the job but then the company decided to lay off the other guy and this decision firmly placed all the pressure on my doorstep.
After the Covid stuff I decided that life was too short and got out of the sport and do something different.
Been through a few different jobs since then but now settled down into a nice little sub assy job doing normal hours and got my life back without all the stress.
Since I left there are now 4 people doing my job. Say no more.
I’m happy and looking forward.
Edited by Composite Guru on Saturday 21st May 11:41
V8mate said:
WTF are you talking about? My comments have nothing to do with tax at all.
My point, as you seem determined to evade it, is simply that working for other people sucks. By design.
You have no right or expectation to enjoy your work - it's a Millennial fantasy. That's why it's called work. If it was great, it'd be called fun.
X hours a week out of a finite lifespan spent doing something out of necessity that’s boring at best hateful at worst. Sounds like a great system we got ourselves here guys. Anyone contemplating having kids have a long think about this and the other similar pre-ordained ‘systems’ in modern human life.My point, as you seem determined to evade it, is simply that working for other people sucks. By design.
You have no right or expectation to enjoy your work - it's a Millennial fantasy. That's why it's called work. If it was great, it'd be called fun.
Brilliant thread! I posted this in a thread further up, my situation is as follows and I'm talking to an IFA on Thursday with a view to getting the flock out and doing something with meaning:
I'm nearly 58, one son left home one fledging but still here and that's OK. I hate my job and the company I work for and what they stand for, I get paid £40K + for 34 hours week, Ts & Cs are OK really, WFH so no fuel costs.
The management are largely inept and not open to suggestions on improvements, the we've always done it this way mentality is rife.There is no sign of a possible redundancy package as I'm in an Engineering role and we can't get enough Engineers. I started there in 1998 and I've left twice, in 2001 and 2005, returning to the bl00dy place late 2001 and 2007 due to family reasons etc.
We do have the opportunity to move around and I have made the most of it, however the way the place is operated is similar so after a few months in a new role I'm bored with the status quo again. I'm not being stretched mentally, their version of being stretched is expecting you to stay VERY late and do work in your own time, no thanks.
I'm now in a position where I can start taking my pensions and get just above 50% of my current take home if my calculations are correct. Mrs Mowgli says do it as I'm a miserable swine (précised by me, not an actual statement) at times due to the job and how I let it affect me. It all feels pointless, meetings that overrun and achieve little (I'm in one now), processes not in place, headless chicken mode most of the time, they appear too scared to just stop and put things in order.
So, basically there is a future out there but after nearly 20 years on and off at the company, with no idea what the future holds, prices going up etc. I'm too scared to jump although it's driving me crackers. Apparently at the local hospital they are aware of the situation due to the number of stroke victims etc. that they see from our place. It's more frustration related than workload if that makes sense?
I'm nearly 58, one son left home one fledging but still here and that's OK. I hate my job and the company I work for and what they stand for, I get paid £40K + for 34 hours week, Ts & Cs are OK really, WFH so no fuel costs.
The management are largely inept and not open to suggestions on improvements, the we've always done it this way mentality is rife.There is no sign of a possible redundancy package as I'm in an Engineering role and we can't get enough Engineers. I started there in 1998 and I've left twice, in 2001 and 2005, returning to the bl00dy place late 2001 and 2007 due to family reasons etc.
We do have the opportunity to move around and I have made the most of it, however the way the place is operated is similar so after a few months in a new role I'm bored with the status quo again. I'm not being stretched mentally, their version of being stretched is expecting you to stay VERY late and do work in your own time, no thanks.
I'm now in a position where I can start taking my pensions and get just above 50% of my current take home if my calculations are correct. Mrs Mowgli says do it as I'm a miserable swine (précised by me, not an actual statement) at times due to the job and how I let it affect me. It all feels pointless, meetings that overrun and achieve little (I'm in one now), processes not in place, headless chicken mode most of the time, they appear too scared to just stop and put things in order.
So, basically there is a future out there but after nearly 20 years on and off at the company, with no idea what the future holds, prices going up etc. I'm too scared to jump although it's driving me crackers. Apparently at the local hospital they are aware of the situation due to the number of stroke victims etc. that they see from our place. It's more frustration related than workload if that makes sense?
M_O_W_G_L_I said:
Brilliant thread! I posted this in a thread further up, my situation is as follows and I'm talking to an IFA on Thursday with a view to getting the flock out and doing something with meaning:
I'm nearly 58, one son left home one fledging but still here and that's OK. I hate my job and the company I work for and what they stand for, I get paid £40K + for 34 hours week, Ts & Cs are OK really, WFH so no fuel costs.
The management are largely inept and not open to suggestions on improvements, the we've always done it this way mentality is rife.There is no sign of a possible redundancy package as I'm in an Engineering role and we can't get enough Engineers. I started there in 1998 and I've left twice, in 2001 and 2005, returning to the bl00dy place late 2001 and 2007 due to family reasons etc.
We do have the opportunity to move around and I have made the most of it, however the way the place is operated is similar so after a few months in a new role I'm bored with the status quo again. I'm not being stretched mentally, their version of being stretched is expecting you to stay VERY late and do work in your own time, no thanks.
I'm now in a position where I can start taking my pensions and get just above 50% of my current take home if my calculations are correct. Mrs Mowgli says do it as I'm a miserable swine (précised by me, not an actual statement) at times due to the job and how I let it affect me. It all feels pointless, meetings that overrun and achieve little (I'm in one now), processes not in place, headless chicken mode most of the time, they appear too scared to just stop and put things in order.
So, basically there is a future out there but after nearly 20 years on and off at the company, with no idea what the future holds, prices going up etc. I'm too scared to jump although it's driving me crackers. Apparently at the local hospital they are aware of the situation due to the number of stroke victims etc. that they see from our place. It's more frustration related than workload if that makes sense?
Yes I understand , it’s not the load of work but what it stands for and how it effects other parts of your life . Imagine your wife each day asking you how was your day ? And you say it was sI'm nearly 58, one son left home one fledging but still here and that's OK. I hate my job and the company I work for and what they stand for, I get paid £40K + for 34 hours week, Ts & Cs are OK really, WFH so no fuel costs.
The management are largely inept and not open to suggestions on improvements, the we've always done it this way mentality is rife.There is no sign of a possible redundancy package as I'm in an Engineering role and we can't get enough Engineers. I started there in 1998 and I've left twice, in 2001 and 2005, returning to the bl00dy place late 2001 and 2007 due to family reasons etc.
We do have the opportunity to move around and I have made the most of it, however the way the place is operated is similar so after a few months in a new role I'm bored with the status quo again. I'm not being stretched mentally, their version of being stretched is expecting you to stay VERY late and do work in your own time, no thanks.
I'm now in a position where I can start taking my pensions and get just above 50% of my current take home if my calculations are correct. Mrs Mowgli says do it as I'm a miserable swine (précised by me, not an actual statement) at times due to the job and how I let it affect me. It all feels pointless, meetings that overrun and achieve little (I'm in one now), processes not in place, headless chicken mode most of the time, they appear too scared to just stop and put things in order.
So, basically there is a future out there but after nearly 20 years on and off at the company, with no idea what the future holds, prices going up etc. I'm too scared to jump although it's driving me crackers. Apparently at the local hospital they are aware of the situation due to the number of stroke victims etc. that they see from our place. It's more frustration related than workload if that makes sense?
t day in day out , that can be very draining . V8mate said:
I think you need to accept that all PAYE jobs are st, and then trying to build a bit of meaning to your life from there.
Mine’s great. One of the advantages of a PAYE job is that if you find a good one you can leave it at the door, that’s where your responsibilities end. If you’re running your own business/contracting your work is omnipresent, not a massive concern if you enjoy it but like you say if it was great it wouldn’t be called work.t, and then trying to build a bit of meaning to your life from there.Woodrow Wilson said:
V8mate said:
Woodrow Wilson said:
V8mate said:
I think you need to accept that all PAYE jobs are s
t, and then trying to build a bit of meaning to your life from there.I build meaning in my life outside of work, but life has been on hold for 40ish hours per week for years on end and that needs to change.
h, no matter how rosy some in the latter category like to insist otherwise.Just got a letter from.companies house telling me the final objection to striking off the company has been dropped. **
After 10 months on PAYE, I'm absolutely fed up to the teeth with it. The place has been run with zero attention to detail, and previous promotions of staff into management positions follow the Peter principle. If I was contracting, I'd walk away. Give a weeks notice and go on holiday for a couple of weeks. Now its 3 months notice.
- had objections because of VAT and Bounce back loan. I hadn't deregistered from VAT so they thought I owed them a submission.
So update , I’m currently sitting on a beach in Portugal . After quitting my job of 20 years in the financial markets as a broker . I don’t have millions but I have my home in central London that is low cost to live in . I will head back in February . I don’t want to be a “broker” again . What would you do ? My costs are low , no wife or kids . I’m 41 .
Edit . Currently looking at a bulldozer moving sand around , that looks fun :-)
Edit . Currently looking at a bulldozer moving sand around , that looks fun :-)
six port said:
Interesting reading very inspiring.
Currently have my wife on maternity leave and I’ve been trying to stick out my job until she goes back, it’s resulted in my stress levels reaching critical mass last week and self certified myself off sick with stress this week.
Working as a field service engineer with some awful planning on jobs that are impossible and a manager who just says there’s no problems only solutions and get on with it.
4-5 hours London driving plus full days on site not allowed to use clients lifts or toilets with no back up from our office.
Looking at putting in notice and enjoying the rest of my wife’s leave with her and little one and then find something better although probably on less money.
Have a R32 Golf sat unused which I’ll happily sell and live off for a few months rather than dip in my savings.
Ended up staying signed off on work related stress and anxiety until now.Currently have my wife on maternity leave and I’ve been trying to stick out my job until she goes back, it’s resulted in my stress levels reaching critical mass last week and self certified myself off sick with stress this week.
Working as a field service engineer with some awful planning on jobs that are impossible and a manager who just says there’s no problems only solutions and get on with it.
4-5 hours London driving plus full days on site not allowed to use clients lifts or toilets with no back up from our office.
Looking at putting in notice and enjoying the rest of my wife’s leave with her and little one and then find something better although probably on less money.
Have a R32 Golf sat unused which I’ll happily sell and live off for a few months rather than dip in my savings.
Was going to jack it in and walk but they did run me into the ground so after calming down a little decided to stay off and get paid rightly or wrongly.
Now at the point dealing with occupational health consultants to see how/ if I can return without things getting silly again.
Could be pretty frosty for me to return or they may have to listen to what I’m saying and ease the load.
If I get to the point I was before I won’t hesitate to walk properly though.
Took me best part of 6-7 weeks to calm down enough to even consider returning.
I too have recently resigned.
There is so much work out there at the moment, I got to a point where I realised life is too short and I want to do something where I'm happier and feel I'm part of something.
I promised myself a long time I'd quit before I got to a point where I was suffering with stress and anxiety in my work - I left it too long.
The joy of 3 month notice periods of course is, plenty of time to find something.
There is so much work out there at the moment, I got to a point where I realised life is too short and I want to do something where I'm happier and feel I'm part of something.
I promised myself a long time I'd quit before I got to a point where I was suffering with stress and anxiety in my work - I left it too long.
The joy of 3 month notice periods of course is, plenty of time to find something.
conanius said:
I too have recently resigned.
There is so much work out there at the moment, I got to a point where I realised life is too short and I want to do something where I'm happier and feel I'm part of something.
I promised myself a long time I'd quit before I got to a point where I was suffering with stress and anxiety in my work - I left it too long.
The joy of 3 month notice periods of course is, plenty of time to find something.
Hey congratulations , when you say lots of work out there , what sector do you mean please ? There is so much work out there at the moment, I got to a point where I realised life is too short and I want to do something where I'm happier and feel I'm part of something.
I promised myself a long time I'd quit before I got to a point where I was suffering with stress and anxiety in my work - I left it too long.
The joy of 3 month notice periods of course is, plenty of time to find something.
911r said:
OldSkoolRS said:
pete_esp said:
911r said:
my last day today wooohooo
Congratulations!
It's my last day at my current employers too! (well technically in tomorrow but that is just to hand back IT equipment and hand over my badge.
I'm a bit apprehensive as I'm going from a 32 hour work week to a 40 hour work week so working on a Friday again is going ot be a shock to my system but nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Welcome to the club...I'm only on my second day of retirement and already feel so much more relaxed and seem to have energy to do things I haven't had for a long time. Stress really does act in strange ways, so even if you aren't retiring I hope the change for both of you works out.
Shnozz said:
911r said:
OldSkoolRS said:
pete_esp said:
911r said:
my last day today wooohooo
Congratulations!
It's my last day at my current employers too! (well technically in tomorrow but that is just to hand back IT equipment and hand over my badge.
I'm a bit apprehensive as I'm going from a 32 hour work week to a 40 hour work week so working on a Friday again is going ot be a shock to my system but nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Welcome to the club...I'm only on my second day of retirement and already feel so much more relaxed and seem to have energy to do things I haven't had for a long time. Stress really does act in strange ways, so even if you aren't retiring I hope the change for both of you works out.
On a side note moving to Spain made me realise I can take some time out and live on 3k a month and still do the things I want . It’s such good value here and the people and culture are fantastic .
Edited by 911r on Monday 1st August 22:28
Edited by 911r on Monday 1st August 22:29
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