How much benefits?

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billshoreham

358 posts

125 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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[quote=Pit Pony]

No. Occasionally we share the cooking.

so you get £450.00 for doing nothing? you seem ok in your second post, do you really have anything to moan about or is it genuine care for this chap?

Pit Pony

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8,546 posts

121 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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I get £450 for providing a large room with furniture, free broadband, a bathroom, with shower (not quite ensuite) . 1/2 the kitchen cupboards, use of all kitchen utensils and crockery, and stuff, a fridge of his own, heating, lighting, use of lounge dinning room and garden.

In return, I get to stay in the black.




Jasandjules

69,884 posts

229 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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Pit Pony said:
I get £450 for providing a large room with furniture, free broadband, a bathroom, with shower (not quite ensuite) . 1/2 the kitchen cupboards, use of all kitchen utensils and crockery, and stuff, a fridge of his own, heating, lighting, use of lounge dinning room and garden.

In return, I get to stay in the black.
Better the devil you know is it not?

Another may not pay on time, or at all.......

GilletteFan

672 posts

31 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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Poor guy! Does he have any friends?

If I were in your shoes, I'd ask him to join any activities. Would drag him out of bed if I had to.

At least I can say I helped someone, as much as I could, get back on their feet.

How's his nutrition? I'd probably cook him a meal or two per week as well.

renmure

4,242 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th March 2023
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I'm sure things with benefits are different nowadays. I used to have a lodger who ended up caught in a situation where he wouldn't have been able to afford the rent if he got a job because he'd only really be able to do low paid work and needed the DSS to pay his housing benefit so just went through the process of job hunting in order to get the benefits. Not ideal really.

Brainpox

4,055 posts

151 months

Pit Pony

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8,546 posts

121 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Right. Update time. Last week, he got a job. Starting Yesterday.
On Thursday night he was proper pissed out of his head. Whether he remembers the st that he was chatting I don't know.

Anyway, I've been away all weekend, and got back very late last night, so don't know if he actually started the new job... I'm on an afternoon shift and then am away until next Tuesday, but hoping to see how he is this morning. I going to get my porridge now.

Pit Pony

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8,546 posts

121 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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So, he got half way to work, and then came home. He phoned them and made an excuse about not being able to come in, but he was ready to leave today, pack lunch, and snacks and documents all in a ruck sack.
Admits he doesn't want to go. He says he's been getting through a lot of vodka.
Anyway, I'm no counsellor, but I suggested he look at it logically. His options are either, bottle out and go back to bed with a bottle of gin, and not have this job or any job, or go, struggle through the day, try not to hate it too much, and look forward to getting his st together, make his daughters proud. What's the worst that could happen? . They decide he's not making the grade, and sack him after 3days? Well at least he will have £300 to show for it.
What's the best that can happen? He like it, and gets paid enough to save up to take his kids on holiday, and maybe get a place of his own, and give his kids a role model to be proud of.
He's probably only gone, because he can't stand the sound of my patronising voice. Now I type that all out I sound like a tt, but I think I was more empathetic than that. Hoping so.

Piersman2

6,597 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Sounds like the drink's in him. Gonna be a long slow descent. Seen it time too many times.

Unless he finds something to live for, but that doesn't seem to happen often.

God it sounds bleak, but that's my prognosis from what you've written.

ashleyman

6,983 posts

99 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Pit Pony said:
So, he got half way to work, and then came home. He phoned them and made an excuse about not being able to come in, but he was ready to leave today, pack lunch, and snacks and documents all in a ruck sack.
Admits he doesn't want to go. He says he's been getting through a lot of vodka.

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Sounds looks me. Depression. With the added alcohol. Not good.

Pit Pony

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8,546 posts

121 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Piersman2 said:
Sounds like the drink's in him. Gonna be a long slow descent. Seen it time too many times.

Unless he finds something to live for, but that doesn't seem to happen often.

God it sounds bleak, but that's my prognosis from what you've written.
Indeed. I concur.
I don't want to be the bloke that puts him out on the street, but looking at it with your eyes, that's what's ultimately going to happen, unless he suddenly finds it in him to be the person he could be.

Monkeylegend

26,378 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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What does your wife think about his behaviour PP, she can't be too happy I would imagine.

ZedLeg

12,278 posts

108 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Pit Pony said:
So, he got half way to work, and then came home. He phoned them and made an excuse about not being able to come in, but he was ready to leave today, pack lunch, and snacks and documents all in a ruck sack.
Admits he doesn't want to go. He says he's been getting through a lot of vodka.
Anyway, I'm no counsellor, but I suggested he look at it logically. His options are either, bottle out and go back to bed with a bottle of gin, and not have this job or any job, or go, struggle through the day, try not to hate it too much, and look forward to getting his st together, make his daughters proud. What's the worst that could happen? . They decide he's not making the grade, and sack him after 3days? Well at least he will have £300 to show for it.
What's the best that can happen? He like it, and gets paid enough to save up to take his kids on holiday, and maybe get a place of his own, and give his kids a role model to be proud of.
He's probably only gone, because he can't stand the sound of my patronising voice. Now I type that all out I sound like a tt, but I think I was more empathetic than that. Hoping so.
He needs to get to a doctor, he seems to be in a tailspin that is familiar to me. It's tough to live with someone when they're like that. Don't want to seem nosy/pushy but also can't watch someone piss their life away.

Kermit power

28,642 posts

213 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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If he was self-employed before Covid, and the stupid, pointless bd lockdown put him out of business, I wouldn't be remotely surprised to find he's depressed, and possibly also pretty stressed about the notion of working for someone else for what might be the first time in years?

Fingers crossed his new job works out for him.

KAgantua

3,870 posts

131 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Id serve notice mate, you dont want an alky in the house.

Pit Pony

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8,546 posts

121 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Monkeylegend said:
What does your wife think about his behaviour PP, she can't be too happy I would imagine.
So, this is my (our) mid week house.

I work about 45 mind drive from it, but 2.5 hours from our family home. (kids left home).

She hasn't been down to stay since just after he moved in because he's around during the day.

I think if he were out at work, she would spend more time down here, particularly as she can visit ournew grandchild in about an hour from here.




Pit Pony

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8,546 posts

121 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2023
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Update time.
Just before I went to work, I put out the recycle bin.
It's full to the brim with gin and vodka bottles and cheap council lager cans.
Then had a walk into town. Pretty sure I saw his car parked up outside some flats.

Anyway, got home to my wife at midnight after a 2.5 hour drive and we agreed the best thing for us is to serve notice whilst he's still got money in the bank.


KAgantua

3,870 posts

131 months

Sunday 26th March 2023
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How did it go mate?

Pit Pony

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8,546 posts

121 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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KAgantua said:
How did it go mate?
Been away over the weekend, so this evening I will be handing him notice of just over a month.

Wife is really concerned that he might be a tt and not leave.



alcatrazarmando

92 posts

13 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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from reading this its pretty clear that poor chap needs some help - is the onus on a landlord to do this? probably not but you dont need this extra trouble. If you have contact details of next of kin - try contact a brother or relative and let them know that he is ****** and needs some help?