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E60 / E61 M5 Buyers Guide

E60 / E61 M5 Buyers Guide

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ecain63

Original Poster:

9,337 posts

99 months

Thursday 24th November 2011
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omniflow said:
Some things I think are worth covering, with a tiny bit of input.

1. Options vs. Standard equipment. What is actually standard and what is an option? Which options are really worth having, and how do you tell if they're fitted?

From my point of view:

Active Seats - Total waste of money and dashboard switches. They actually make me feel queasy when they're turned on. I don't know if you can get memory seats without them being active seats, but I DEFINITELY wouldn't let active seats sway the deal.
Power Tailgate on a Touring - I saw about 7 cars, and ALL of them had the power tailgate. If it was an option it was a very commonly ordered one.
Full Leather rather than extended - I like it, but is it really a dealbreaker if the car doesn't have it?
Interior Colour - don't automatically exclude a car because of a red leather interior, it's not actually that bad. Although the rest of the spec can make a difference. One car I saw had trim level that resulted in Red leather, Black leather and Aluminium all coming together in one place that is really visible from the drivers seat. It all just clashed, although I'm sure that's down to personal taste.
Not sure if there are any other options that are worth talking about.

2. Transferring Warranty - how does it work. On this one I know that if it's a BMW insurance backed warranty (rather than an AUC warranty), the person who's selling you the car has to contact BMW warranty and tell them to transfer the warranty to you. Them giving you all the paperwork isn't good enough (although you could possibly commit fraud and phone BMW warranty pretending to be the previous owner, but I wouldn't recommend this and joking aside, I've never actually tried it to see if it would work). No idea how transferring an AUC warranty works. I was given all sorts of stories by non-franchised dealers about what I needed to do to transfer the warranty, none of them were correct.

3. Satnav (& the rest of iDrive) - takes some serious getting used to. It's worth persevering with all the settings and you'll end up with something that is usable - I think the option you need is dynamic routing, otherwise it spends all it's time trying to put you on the route it originally planned, rather than adjusting to the route you've actually taken. I've looked around for an aftermarket 7 digit postcode option and haven't managed to find one. Even asked BMW, no use whatsoever.
Ive added it to the guide mate, along with a little bit extra.

Eddie

andygtt

8,241 posts

188 months

Thursday 24th November 2011
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ecain63 said:
m3mjw said:
Cheers Eddie. It comes with a decent warranty for 3 months but I had already decided I wanted a BMW one after advice from others. The car seems to have been looked after so time will tell. I have owned an m3 for 5 years without issue or fear why did I sell her out for a further 150 bhp and v10 howl !!! Thanks for advice. Marc
I'd still get a BMW one straight away as your other warranty probably wont cover anything to do with the clutch. Enjoy,

Eddie
I got a 3 mths warranty from a dealer... looked at in detail and its effectively worthless lol

Also I still have my M3 and can assure you after owning the M5 for a week you will never look longinly at the M3 again.

As Eddie says get the BMW warranty straight away and stop worrying, they are not that unreliable so your not going to be stranded at the side of the road all the time.... if they go wrong its expensive but thats what you get the warranty for.

m3mjw

23 posts

73 months

Thursday 24th November 2011
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Cheers Andy. I am in now so will have to deal with whatever. I think unfortunately Internet is great and bad at same time. Obviously people let you know about problems which is great and when you see a few saying same thing it can distort your view as can look like a majority when in fact could be a relatively small no in the country if you know what I mean. I can't wait to get the car but still a little worried. I have really loved my m3 and can't believe I am finally selling her which is making me doubt my decision. Sure when I hear that engine I will know I made right decision. Cheers lads

Cheburator mk2

2,244 posts

123 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Personal observations/additions:

Having seen side by side a tourer with extended leather and my car with full leather, I can say the lack of it is a massive deal braker for me. It is not just the dash that gets the extra slabs of finest cowhide. Every bit of plastic in the car is covered. Moreover, you do get the a-pillars and roof lining in lovely alcantara. While I would not pay the £5k cost to spec it from new, I would not consider a M5/M6 without the full leather. Lack of sunroof is also a deal breaker if it was going to be an E60 - all E61 come with panoramic as standard. The E60/E61, like all modern cars, suffers from a high waist line and relatively small glasshouse compared to the benchmark in ergonomics the E39. You need every bit of light to lift the interior, as such, a sunroof is a must for me.

The dynamic seats are a must too. If I wanted a barge, I would have bought a 535d (mapped)tm with comfort seats...

ecain63

Original Poster:

9,337 posts

99 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Yeah, fair points. The options you chose suit your usage, your excellent 'Ring' write up proves that. All good stuff.

Could somebody forward this to a mod to make it a sticky?
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Hughesie

12,520 posts

206 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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ecain63 said:
Could somebody forward this to a mod to make it a sticky?
Done - Also did you get me e-mail this week ?

ecain63

Original Poster:

9,337 posts

99 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Hughesie said:
Done - Also did you get me e-mail this week ?
Didn't get any email mate. Try again and see what happens.

Thanks for the forwarding.

Eddie

healntoe

370 posts

138 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Great write up for anyone looking for one of these, some really useful buyers tips, if i were ever to afford one something like this would be great. PH version of parkers guide smile Sounds like running costs are easily around £10k with fuel alone @ 12k miles pa being £6k [200 mile tank range] eek...

ecain63

Original Poster:

9,337 posts

99 months

Monday 28th November 2011
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I'll be adding a little bit more this week for those of you who are monitoring the thread,

Eddie

cosworth330

942 posts

161 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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What year and month were they facelifted ?
What changes were made ?
Is it better to buy a facelifted model as i've heard they are more reliable as far as the SMG is concerned.

Thanks
Simon.

ecain63

Original Poster:

9,337 posts

99 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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I'll answer tonight.

Eddie

ecain63

Original Poster:

9,337 posts

99 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Answered above.

ecain63

Original Poster:

9,337 posts

99 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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Updated with info from PH member wattsm666.

joscal

971 posts

124 months

Thursday 1st December 2011
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zYWOqm_Zkc

Edited by joscal on Thursday 1st December 22:41

ecain63

Original Poster:

9,337 posts

99 months

Friday 2nd December 2011
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joscal said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zYWOqm_Zkc

Edited by joscal on Thursday 1st December 22:41
Added to OP.

ecain63

Original Poster:

9,337 posts

99 months

Monday 12th December 2011
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Updated with wheel fitments.

Dave 321

558 posts

164 months

Monday 19th December 2011
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Cheburator mk2 said:
Personal observations/additions:

Having seen side by side a tourer with extended leather and my car with full leather, I can say the lack of it is a massive deal braker for me. It is not just the dash that gets the extra slabs of finest cowhide. Every bit of plastic in the car is covered. Moreover, you do get the a-pillars and roof lining in lovely alcantara. While I would not pay the £5k cost to spec it from new, I would not consider a M5/M6 without the full leather. Lack of sunroof is also a deal breaker if it was going to be an E60 - all E61 come with panoramic as standard. The E60/E61, like all modern cars, suffers from a high waist line and relatively small glasshouse compared to the benchmark in ergonomics the E39. You need every bit of light to lift the interior, as such, a sunroof is a must for me.

The dynamic seats are a must too. If I wanted a barge, I would have bought a 535d (mapped)tm with comfort seats...
I have to agree on leather & roof! Mine has these extras, recently sat in plastic dash car & it was very plain inside! Alcantara headcloth/pillars makes the interior! The active seats will also help resale...

Great write up Eddie, very little if anything not covered!!

ecain63

Original Poster:

9,337 posts

99 months

Monday 19th December 2011
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Thanks mate.


Raysm5

2 posts

72 months

Saturday 24th December 2011
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Had my m5 since september this year, just had an issue with the oil pipe , they had to drop sump and change pipe, cost from bmw dealership was £1010.60 , now fighting with warranty company to cover the repair.

Patrick Bateman

9,492 posts

98 months

Tuesday 27th December 2011
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Third party warranty?