1M - A few questions?
Discussion
Here's a shocker for Great Pretender: Not everyone likes Porsches!
I couldn't give a crap how great they might drive, I simply don't like them! - never have, never will!, and so I'll never drive one, let alone buy one!
I can't say exactly why I don't like Porsches, there's just something about them, especially the 911 series that does nothing for Me, maybe it's because it's too obvious what they are, there's no stealth to them.
There again, perhaps it's the perception that people have about Porsche (and especially 911) drivers.
The 1M on the other hand is a proper little Q-car!
To the average motorist it's just another small BMW and most people will have no idea what a great little car it is.
Want to just tootle along and not be bothered by anyone? - fine!
Want to go out and have a bit of as hoon? - no problem!
Want to surprise a few "more recognised" performance cars? - No worries!
I couldn't give a crap how great they might drive, I simply don't like them! - never have, never will!, and so I'll never drive one, let alone buy one!
I can't say exactly why I don't like Porsches, there's just something about them, especially the 911 series that does nothing for Me, maybe it's because it's too obvious what they are, there's no stealth to them.
There again, perhaps it's the perception that people have about Porsche (and especially 911) drivers.
The 1M on the other hand is a proper little Q-car!
To the average motorist it's just another small BMW and most people will have no idea what a great little car it is.
Want to just tootle along and not be bothered by anyone? - fine!
Want to go out and have a bit of as hoon? - no problem!
Want to surprise a few "more recognised" performance cars? - No worries!
terryb said:
I don't think you should really be comparing a CSL to a 1M, because in my eyes they serve 2 different purposes, and I have owned both, so feel qualified to comment
I loved my CSL, the sound, speed of gear change, and ability on track with Michelin Cups was just epic. I had it as a daily driver for a year and it wasn't the best daily drive, but it was at the time the best car I had driven on track. I changed the CSL for a 996 GT3 and still have this after 3.5 yrs. This is the natural competitor to the CSL. In my mind it is better in most areas on track, but not on the road, but then mine is very extreme
The 1M should be compared to a standard M3 or a 911 Turbo. It is much more refined than a CSL or GT3 and makes a much better choice for a daily drive. The fact that it is a limited edition M makes it similar to a CSL but they are different cars intended for different people.... Or the same people when they want something more refined. In fact if you had a 1M for day to day and a CSL for weekemd and trackdays then you would be onto a winner
This is where we differ the 1m and the csl are very alike in character I think the 1m is more refined but I think that's a lot to do with technology moving on in the ten years since it was launched, like the csl it's much more raw than an m3 and on track it's really good and so much fun! As a daily drive not so much I would find it hard work and the standard suspension is a little harsh! I loved my CSL, the sound, speed of gear change, and ability on track with Michelin Cups was just epic. I had it as a daily driver for a year and it wasn't the best daily drive, but it was at the time the best car I had driven on track. I changed the CSL for a 996 GT3 and still have this after 3.5 yrs. This is the natural competitor to the CSL. In my mind it is better in most areas on track, but not on the road, but then mine is very extreme
The 1M should be compared to a standard M3 or a 911 Turbo. It is much more refined than a CSL or GT3 and makes a much better choice for a daily drive. The fact that it is a limited edition M makes it similar to a CSL but they are different cars intended for different people.... Or the same people when they want something more refined. In fact if you had a 1M for day to day and a CSL for weekemd and trackdays then you would be onto a winner
The gt3 is a different league IMO probably one of the best track drivers cars ever I would love one but two toys my wife wouldn't go for!
If money was no object I would have several cars csl, gt3 included but I can honestly say I'd still have my 1m I absolutely love it!
4rephill said:
Here's a shocker for Great Pretender: Not everyone likes Porsches!
I couldn't give a crap how great they might drive, I simply don't like them! - never have, never will!, and so I'll never drive one, let alone buy one!
I can't say exactly why I don't like Porsches, there's just something about them, especially the 911 series that does nothing for Me, maybe it's because it's too obvious what they are, there's no stealth to them.
There again, perhaps it's the perception that people have about Porsche (and especially 911) drivers.
Have a look at my profile dear chap and you'll see that I'm quite partial to the odd M-Car; so I'm not particularly biased either way.I couldn't give a crap how great they might drive, I simply don't like them! - never have, never will!, and so I'll never drive one, let alone buy one!
I can't say exactly why I don't like Porsches, there's just something about them, especially the 911 series that does nothing for Me, maybe it's because it's too obvious what they are, there's no stealth to them.
There again, perhaps it's the perception that people have about Porsche (and especially 911) drivers.
The point I made at the start of this thread, is that I feel the 1M represents poor value against its peers, which doesn't just include Porsche.
It's been an interesting thread though.
Jonny F said:
Leins said:
Why do you think they've all been ragged to death? And would you say the same about 996 & 997 GT3s, and think they're overpriced too, or how about other rare special stuff? Seems a bit of a strange comment from someone who used to own a CSL
Not really. Show me an "as new" CSL with 2,000 miles on the clock and 1 owner for £37,000 and I'd consider it over the 1M. All the ones I've seen look and feel 8 years old...because they are! Im with TerryB on this one,having also owned a CSL,GT3 and 1M i would say his comments are pretty spot on.
I really do think the 1M is the best only/everyday car i have owned.
I dont find the ride on the 1M too hard,its firm certainly but far better than say a 135i with run flats.Its a little skittish when pressing on what with a short wheel base and firm suspension running on 19's,not really the best mix with todays poor roads,but what it is is fun in bucket fulls.
I love CSL's but having had one back in 2004 i just couldnt bring myself to own and use what is now a 8 year old car as my only everyday drive,besides there were elements back then about the car i didnt like,namely the SMG box,which for daily/town driving i didnt enjoy.But that engine and sound...sublime.I will never forget a trip to Le Mans and popping the hood whilst parked in between some Lambo's Fezza's and Nobles's,the amount of attention it got truly bemused the owners of the exotica!
The M135i is a fantastic car and tremendous value for money,obviously it didnt exist whan i ordered the 1M but even if it had i couldnt live with those looks and would still have shelled out the premium for the 1M,now an M235i in 18 months times might be interesting but then the M2 will be just around the corner.....decisions decisions.
The GT3 was magnificent and terrible all at the same time,on the right road/track it was astonishing better even than a CSL,but i quickly realised that as a popping down the shops,daily drive/town car it was simply hopeless (im guessing the clubsport package didnt help with that either!).
A 997C2S is a very complete car but personally i would rather a Turbo or GT3 if taking the porker route,something a little more exuberent.
I have said it before that i actually found the 1M somewhat of a bargain new,nothing else came close.Decent looks(individual tastes and all that but it certainly has presence),decent performance,decent build quality with a full manufacturers warranty and good residuals(so far).Sure 40k buys more performance 2nd hand but i didnt want a used car,its been a great purchase.
I really do think the 1M is the best only/everyday car i have owned.
I dont find the ride on the 1M too hard,its firm certainly but far better than say a 135i with run flats.Its a little skittish when pressing on what with a short wheel base and firm suspension running on 19's,not really the best mix with todays poor roads,but what it is is fun in bucket fulls.
I love CSL's but having had one back in 2004 i just couldnt bring myself to own and use what is now a 8 year old car as my only everyday drive,besides there were elements back then about the car i didnt like,namely the SMG box,which for daily/town driving i didnt enjoy.But that engine and sound...sublime.I will never forget a trip to Le Mans and popping the hood whilst parked in between some Lambo's Fezza's and Nobles's,the amount of attention it got truly bemused the owners of the exotica!
The M135i is a fantastic car and tremendous value for money,obviously it didnt exist whan i ordered the 1M but even if it had i couldnt live with those looks and would still have shelled out the premium for the 1M,now an M235i in 18 months times might be interesting but then the M2 will be just around the corner.....decisions decisions.
The GT3 was magnificent and terrible all at the same time,on the right road/track it was astonishing better even than a CSL,but i quickly realised that as a popping down the shops,daily drive/town car it was simply hopeless (im guessing the clubsport package didnt help with that either!).
A 997C2S is a very complete car but personally i would rather a Turbo or GT3 if taking the porker route,something a little more exuberent.
I have said it before that i actually found the 1M somewhat of a bargain new,nothing else came close.Decent looks(individual tastes and all that but it certainly has presence),decent performance,decent build quality with a full manufacturers warranty and good residuals(so far).Sure 40k buys more performance 2nd hand but i didnt want a used car,its been a great purchase.
Here's my thoughts for what they are worth, as a M Power specialist who is buying and selling cars every day.
I am getting offered some 1M coupe's on a weekly basis, most of them well spec'd with Nav and Bluetooth, maybe harmon Kardon sound etc, I have sold 3 used ones over the passed month or so and they have all sold neared the £40k with sub 10,000 miles, I have one ariving at £38k with 19,000 miles. I would suggest they are Very Specification sensitive and colour sensitive also. White or Valencia sell no problems, Black is a bit tougher, I guess because of the lack of contrast between bodywork and grilles etc etc.
As an every day user they are g=reat, I commute almost 40 miles each way to work and if I use an 1M i can see the display reading 37MPG which for a car also capapble of 4.9 secs to 62mph i think is quite astounding. I have yet to drive much else that gives the same alround feel of comfort and performance mixed with economy if you need it.
I'm sure the C2S is like the M3 and gives you 2 out of 3, but also i'd suspect a C2S used every day would soon become very costly to run.
I was using an M3 DCT at the weekend which was fantastic great to drive with the V8 noise and the performance with the shift light indicator, but returned 20 mpg????
Perhaps i digress somewhat, the 1M coupe for me needs the Sat Nav, Bluetooth I would say is a Must, and things like Surround sound, privacy glass, electric folding mirrors, whilst not enhancing the Value do make it more sellable. I had a Black car with No options what so ever and it was very difficult to sell, partly due to colour i guess and partly due to specification.
With regards to press cars, I wouldn't worry too much about them, as they are all fully prepared by BMW prior to release to dealers, they are not any more or less expensive than privately owned cars, and in a lot of cases haven't been tacked any more or driven any harder than some of you owners would have driven your own ones. Just ensure they have had the 1200 mile service, any other servicing has been done up to date, and pay a little extra for a car that has the maintenance package for 5 years as it will save a lot of money in the long run.
Ex demonstrator vehicles again may have been driven hard by both staff and customers, however I wouldnt let that put you off either as they are generally fully checked on a weekly basis for oil levels etc and when sold will generally have had run in service done and all up to date.
Hope that helps, Fantastic cars, and I cant see a better all round performance car that is easy to run.
Greg
I am getting offered some 1M coupe's on a weekly basis, most of them well spec'd with Nav and Bluetooth, maybe harmon Kardon sound etc, I have sold 3 used ones over the passed month or so and they have all sold neared the £40k with sub 10,000 miles, I have one ariving at £38k with 19,000 miles. I would suggest they are Very Specification sensitive and colour sensitive also. White or Valencia sell no problems, Black is a bit tougher, I guess because of the lack of contrast between bodywork and grilles etc etc.
As an every day user they are g=reat, I commute almost 40 miles each way to work and if I use an 1M i can see the display reading 37MPG which for a car also capapble of 4.9 secs to 62mph i think is quite astounding. I have yet to drive much else that gives the same alround feel of comfort and performance mixed with economy if you need it.
I'm sure the C2S is like the M3 and gives you 2 out of 3, but also i'd suspect a C2S used every day would soon become very costly to run.
I was using an M3 DCT at the weekend which was fantastic great to drive with the V8 noise and the performance with the shift light indicator, but returned 20 mpg????
Perhaps i digress somewhat, the 1M coupe for me needs the Sat Nav, Bluetooth I would say is a Must, and things like Surround sound, privacy glass, electric folding mirrors, whilst not enhancing the Value do make it more sellable. I had a Black car with No options what so ever and it was very difficult to sell, partly due to colour i guess and partly due to specification.
With regards to press cars, I wouldn't worry too much about them, as they are all fully prepared by BMW prior to release to dealers, they are not any more or less expensive than privately owned cars, and in a lot of cases haven't been tacked any more or driven any harder than some of you owners would have driven your own ones. Just ensure they have had the 1200 mile service, any other servicing has been done up to date, and pay a little extra for a car that has the maintenance package for 5 years as it will save a lot of money in the long run.
Ex demonstrator vehicles again may have been driven hard by both staff and customers, however I wouldnt let that put you off either as they are generally fully checked on a weekly basis for oil levels etc and when sold will generally have had run in service done and all up to date.
Hope that helps, Fantastic cars, and I cant see a better all round performance car that is easy to run.
Greg
Eastern boy said:
Here's my thoughts for what they are worth, as a M Power specialist who is buying and selling cars every day.
I am getting offered some 1M coupe's on a weekly basis, most of them well spec'd with Nav and Bluetooth, maybe harmon Kardon sound etc, I have sold 3 used ones over the passed month or so and they have all sold neared the £40k with sub 10,000 miles, I have one ariving at £38k with 19,000 miles. I would suggest they are Very Specification sensitive and colour sensitive also. White or Valencia sell no problems, Black is a bit tougher, I guess because of the lack of contrast between bodywork and grilles etc etc.
As an every day user they are g=reat, I commute almost 40 miles each way to work and if I use an 1M i can see the display reading 37MPG which for a car also capapble of 4.9 secs to 62mph i think is quite astounding. I have yet to drive much else that gives the same alround feel of comfort and performance mixed with economy if you need it.
I'm sure the C2S is like the M3 and gives you 2 out of 3, but also i'd suspect a C2S used every day would soon become very costly to run.
I was using an M3 DCT at the weekend which was fantastic great to drive with the V8 noise and the performance with the shift light indicator, but returned 20 mpg????
Perhaps i digress somewhat, the 1M coupe for me needs the Sat Nav, Bluetooth I would say is a Must, and things like Surround sound, privacy glass, electric folding mirrors, whilst not enhancing the Value do make it more sellable. I had a Black car with No options what so ever and it was very difficult to sell, partly due to colour i guess and partly due to specification.
With regards to press cars, I wouldn't worry too much about them, as they are all fully prepared by BMW prior to release to dealers, they are not any more or less expensive than privately owned cars, and in a lot of cases haven't been tacked any more or driven any harder than some of you owners would have driven your own ones. Just ensure they have had the 1200 mile service, any other servicing has been done up to date, and pay a little extra for a car that has the maintenance package for 5 years as it will save a lot of money in the long run.
Ex demonstrator vehicles again may have been driven hard by both staff and customers, however I wouldnt let that put you off either as they are generally fully checked on a weekly basis for oil levels etc and when sold will generally have had run in service done and all up to date.
Hope that helps, Fantastic cars, and I cant see a better all round performance car that is easy to run.
Greg
I've already mentioned this (several times) however, my wifes has sun protection glass and bluetooth. Valencia Orange 1 year old, 5k on the clock and service pack. That's it.I am getting offered some 1M coupe's on a weekly basis, most of them well spec'd with Nav and Bluetooth, maybe harmon Kardon sound etc, I have sold 3 used ones over the passed month or so and they have all sold neared the £40k with sub 10,000 miles, I have one ariving at £38k with 19,000 miles. I would suggest they are Very Specification sensitive and colour sensitive also. White or Valencia sell no problems, Black is a bit tougher, I guess because of the lack of contrast between bodywork and grilles etc etc.
As an every day user they are g=reat, I commute almost 40 miles each way to work and if I use an 1M i can see the display reading 37MPG which for a car also capapble of 4.9 secs to 62mph i think is quite astounding. I have yet to drive much else that gives the same alround feel of comfort and performance mixed with economy if you need it.
I'm sure the C2S is like the M3 and gives you 2 out of 3, but also i'd suspect a C2S used every day would soon become very costly to run.
I was using an M3 DCT at the weekend which was fantastic great to drive with the V8 noise and the performance with the shift light indicator, but returned 20 mpg????
Perhaps i digress somewhat, the 1M coupe for me needs the Sat Nav, Bluetooth I would say is a Must, and things like Surround sound, privacy glass, electric folding mirrors, whilst not enhancing the Value do make it more sellable. I had a Black car with No options what so ever and it was very difficult to sell, partly due to colour i guess and partly due to specification.
With regards to press cars, I wouldn't worry too much about them, as they are all fully prepared by BMW prior to release to dealers, they are not any more or less expensive than privately owned cars, and in a lot of cases haven't been tacked any more or driven any harder than some of you owners would have driven your own ones. Just ensure they have had the 1200 mile service, any other servicing has been done up to date, and pay a little extra for a car that has the maintenance package for 5 years as it will save a lot of money in the long run.
Ex demonstrator vehicles again may have been driven hard by both staff and customers, however I wouldnt let that put you off either as they are generally fully checked on a weekly basis for oil levels etc and when sold will generally have had run in service done and all up to date.
Hope that helps, Fantastic cars, and I cant see a better all round performance car that is easy to run.
Greg
She has been approached several times to sell her car for a fair bit more than she paid for it (it's not for sale BTW).
The last guy that made an offer came back again raising his offer. The offer is nearly £5k more than she paid for it and was a genuine offer.
Ok so the car is ultra clean and exceptionally well looked after but to be honest spec really doesn't seem to make a difference.
Colour, condition and history is now the priority not heated seats or Sat Nav. People are staying away from press cars whilst there are non press cars out there, for now anyway.
It would seem that the 1M really is becoming a highly collectible item.
We shall wait and see.
Eastern boy said:
Here's my thoughts for what they are worth, as a M Power specialist who is buying and selling cars every day.
I am getting offered some 1M coupe's on a weekly basis, most of them well spec'd with Nav and Bluetooth, maybe harmon Kardon sound etc, I have sold 3 used ones over the passed month or so and they have all sold neared the £40k with sub 10,000 miles, I have one ariving at £38k with 19,000 miles. I would suggest they are Very Specification sensitive and colour sensitive also. White or Valencia sell no problems, Black is a bit tougher, I guess because of the lack of contrast between bodywork and grilles etc etc.
As an every day user they are g=reat, I commute almost 40 miles each way to work and if I use an 1M i can see the display reading 37MPG which for a car also capapble of 4.9 secs to 62mph i think is quite astounding. I have yet to drive much else that gives the same alround feel of comfort and performance mixed with economy if you need it.
I'm sure the C2S is like the M3 and gives you 2 out of 3, but also i'd suspect a C2S used every day would soon become very costly to run.
I was using an M3 DCT at the weekend which was fantastic great to drive with the V8 noise and the performance with the shift light indicator, but returned 20 mpg????
Perhaps i digress somewhat, the 1M coupe for me needs the Sat Nav, Bluetooth I would say is a Must, and things like Surround sound, privacy glass, electric folding mirrors, whilst not enhancing the Value do make it more sellable. I had a Black car with No options what so ever and it was very difficult to sell, partly due to colour i guess and partly due to specification.
With regards to press cars, I wouldn't worry too much about them, as they are all fully prepared by BMW prior to release to dealers, they are not any more or less expensive than privately owned cars, and in a lot of cases haven't been tacked any more or driven any harder than some of you owners would have driven your own ones. Just ensure they have had the 1200 mile service, any other servicing has been done up to date, and pay a little extra for a car that has the maintenance package for 5 years as it will save a lot of money in the long run.
Ex demonstrator vehicles again may have been driven hard by both staff and customers, however I wouldnt let that put you off either as they are generally fully checked on a weekly basis for oil levels etc and when sold will generally have had run in service done and all up to date.
Hope that helps, Fantastic cars, and I cant see a better all round performance car that is easy to run.
Greg
At the weekend I bought a black one without nav, (Tom Tom works for me), more important was 2k miles, less than 12 months old, blue tooth, the service pack, and immaculate body + wheels..... Re colour choice I was indifferent between black and white, but would not have bought orange... Each to their own I suppose.... Great little car.I am getting offered some 1M coupe's on a weekly basis, most of them well spec'd with Nav and Bluetooth, maybe harmon Kardon sound etc, I have sold 3 used ones over the passed month or so and they have all sold neared the £40k with sub 10,000 miles, I have one ariving at £38k with 19,000 miles. I would suggest they are Very Specification sensitive and colour sensitive also. White or Valencia sell no problems, Black is a bit tougher, I guess because of the lack of contrast between bodywork and grilles etc etc.
As an every day user they are g=reat, I commute almost 40 miles each way to work and if I use an 1M i can see the display reading 37MPG which for a car also capapble of 4.9 secs to 62mph i think is quite astounding. I have yet to drive much else that gives the same alround feel of comfort and performance mixed with economy if you need it.
I'm sure the C2S is like the M3 and gives you 2 out of 3, but also i'd suspect a C2S used every day would soon become very costly to run.
I was using an M3 DCT at the weekend which was fantastic great to drive with the V8 noise and the performance with the shift light indicator, but returned 20 mpg????
Perhaps i digress somewhat, the 1M coupe for me needs the Sat Nav, Bluetooth I would say is a Must, and things like Surround sound, privacy glass, electric folding mirrors, whilst not enhancing the Value do make it more sellable. I had a Black car with No options what so ever and it was very difficult to sell, partly due to colour i guess and partly due to specification.
With regards to press cars, I wouldn't worry too much about them, as they are all fully prepared by BMW prior to release to dealers, they are not any more or less expensive than privately owned cars, and in a lot of cases haven't been tacked any more or driven any harder than some of you owners would have driven your own ones. Just ensure they have had the 1200 mile service, any other servicing has been done up to date, and pay a little extra for a car that has the maintenance package for 5 years as it will save a lot of money in the long run.
Ex demonstrator vehicles again may have been driven hard by both staff and customers, however I wouldnt let that put you off either as they are generally fully checked on a weekly basis for oil levels etc and when sold will generally have had run in service done and all up to date.
Hope that helps, Fantastic cars, and I cant see a better all round performance car that is easy to run.
Greg
37 MPG - was it on a trailer behind a 320d?!! I struggled to get 25 MPG but had a load of fun in the process!!
Eastern boy said:
Here's my thoughts for what they are worth, as a M Power specialist who is buying and selling cars every day.
I am getting offered some 1M coupe's on a weekly basis, most of them well spec'd with Nav and Bluetooth, maybe harmon Kardon sound etc, I have sold 3 used ones over the passed month or so and they have all sold neared the £40k with sub 10,000 miles, I have one ariving at £38k with 19,000 miles. I would suggest they are Very Specification sensitive and colour sensitive also. White or Valencia sell no problems, Black is a bit tougher, I guess because of the lack of contrast between bodywork and grilles etc etc.
As an every day user they are g=reat, I commute almost 40 miles each way to work and if I use an 1M i can see the display reading 37MPG which for a car also capapble of 4.9 secs to 62mph i think is quite astounding. I have yet to drive much else that gives the same alround feel of comfort and performance mixed with economy if you need it.
I'm sure the C2S is like the M3 and gives you 2 out of 3, but also i'd suspect a C2S used every day would soon become very costly to run.
I was using an M3 DCT at the weekend which was fantastic great to drive with the V8 noise and the performance with the shift light indicator, but returned 20 mpg????
Perhaps i digress somewhat, the 1M coupe for me needs the Sat Nav, Bluetooth I would say is a Must, and things like Surround sound, privacy glass, electric folding mirrors, whilst not enhancing the Value do make it more sellable. I had a Black car with No options what so ever and it was very difficult to sell, partly due to colour i guess and partly due to specification.
With regards to press cars, I wouldn't worry too much about them, as they are all fully prepared by BMW prior to release to dealers, they are not any more or less expensive than privately owned cars, and in a lot of cases haven't been tacked any more or driven any harder than some of you owners would have driven your own ones. Just ensure they have had the 1200 mile service, any other servicing has been done up to date, and pay a little extra for a car that has the maintenance package for 5 years as it will save a lot of money in the long run.
Ex demonstrator vehicles again may have been driven hard by both staff and customers, however I wouldnt let that put you off either as they are generally fully checked on a weekly basis for oil levels etc and when sold will generally have had run in service done and all up to date.
Hope that helps, Fantastic cars, and I cant see a better all round performance car that is easy to run.
Greg
I am getting offered some 1M coupe's on a weekly basis, most of them well spec'd with Nav and Bluetooth, maybe harmon Kardon sound etc, I have sold 3 used ones over the passed month or so and they have all sold neared the £40k with sub 10,000 miles, I have one ariving at £38k with 19,000 miles. I would suggest they are Very Specification sensitive and colour sensitive also. White or Valencia sell no problems, Black is a bit tougher, I guess because of the lack of contrast between bodywork and grilles etc etc.
As an every day user they are g=reat, I commute almost 40 miles each way to work and if I use an 1M i can see the display reading 37MPG which for a car also capapble of 4.9 secs to 62mph i think is quite astounding. I have yet to drive much else that gives the same alround feel of comfort and performance mixed with economy if you need it.
I'm sure the C2S is like the M3 and gives you 2 out of 3, but also i'd suspect a C2S used every day would soon become very costly to run.
I was using an M3 DCT at the weekend which was fantastic great to drive with the V8 noise and the performance with the shift light indicator, but returned 20 mpg????
Perhaps i digress somewhat, the 1M coupe for me needs the Sat Nav, Bluetooth I would say is a Must, and things like Surround sound, privacy glass, electric folding mirrors, whilst not enhancing the Value do make it more sellable. I had a Black car with No options what so ever and it was very difficult to sell, partly due to colour i guess and partly due to specification.
With regards to press cars, I wouldn't worry too much about them, as they are all fully prepared by BMW prior to release to dealers, they are not any more or less expensive than privately owned cars, and in a lot of cases haven't been tacked any more or driven any harder than some of you owners would have driven your own ones. Just ensure they have had the 1200 mile service, any other servicing has been done up to date, and pay a little extra for a car that has the maintenance package for 5 years as it will save a lot of money in the long run.
Ex demonstrator vehicles again may have been driven hard by both staff and customers, however I wouldnt let that put you off either as they are generally fully checked on a weekly basis for oil levels etc and when sold will generally have had run in service done and all up to date.
Hope that helps, Fantastic cars, and I cant see a better all round performance car that is easy to run.
Greg
Don't get me wrong I've seen me driving 1m coupe's at around 15-17mpg with a massive grin on my face, but i commute 35 miles each morning and night on motorway and with cruise on 37mpg at sub 80mph is achievable if not much fun!!! I can't seem to resist buying them for stock if i can get my hands on them. Just picked up a white 61 plate in immaculate condition. just makes me smile each day I turn up at work!!!
Greg
Greg
rix said:
Kinda surprised the M135i hasn't been mentioned in this thread...
Anyone know of any group tests between 1M and the M135i?
No, please don't mention the poor old ugly duckling in this company - different cars anyway, last time I drove my fugly looking 5 door M135i I had a child seat in the back (empty mind) a heap of IKEA flat packs and a set of quite large stepladders, and still had a lot of fun on the way home. Can't really do that in the 1M but whatever you can do it will be like riding on a lovely white swan... Unfortunately my daily drive has to be able to do IKEA and the tip run so a 1M wasn't in the mix, but for what it's worth the M135i has turned out to be an excellent second best. Anyone know of any group tests between 1M and the M135i?
mikebrownhill said:
No, please don't mention the poor old ugly duckling in this company - different cars anyway, last time I drove my fugly looking 5 door M135i I had a child seat in the back (empty mind) a heap of IKEA flat packs and a set of quite large stepladders, and still had a lot of fun on the way home. Can't really do that in the 1M but whatever you can do it will be like riding on a lovely white swan... Unfortunately my daily drive has to be able to do IKEA and the tip run so a 1M wasn't in the mix, but for what it's worth the M135i has turned out to be an excellent second best.
Wow - excellent thread resurrection!!sumo69 said:
mikebrownhill said:
No, please don't mention the poor old ugly duckling in this company - different cars anyway, last time I drove my fugly looking 5 door M135i I had a child seat in the back (empty mind) a heap of IKEA flat packs and a set of quite large stepladders, and still had a lot of fun on the way home. Can't really do that in the 1M but whatever you can do it will be like riding on a lovely white swan... Unfortunately my daily drive has to be able to do IKEA and the tip run so a 1M wasn't in the mix, but for what it's worth the M135i has turned out to be an excellent second best.
Wow - excellent thread resurrection!!kmpowell said:
When you're looking, watch out for the ex-press cars that are now appearing after being sold by BMW UK to the dealer network. Many are on dealer forecourts and they are not forthcoming about it! Prices are not reflective of their history either. See here for an example... http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74...
Reg numbers you need to watch out for are:
YH11 GOX
YH11 GKY
YH11 MJK
YH11 OHR
YH11 NUE
YH11 GPF
YH11 FXC
YH11 HDJ
YH11 FAU
YH11 NUE
As for the Sat Nav thing. I ordered mine basic, completely box fresh apart from BMWP grilles and pedals. When I Came to sell I had no problem shifting it. Buy on the mileage and history, not on options.
Thread resurrection!!Reg numbers you need to watch out for are:
YH11 GOX
YH11 GKY
YH11 MJK
YH11 OHR
YH11 NUE
YH11 GPF
YH11 FXC
YH11 HDJ
YH11 FAU
YH11 NUE
As for the Sat Nav thing. I ordered mine basic, completely box fresh apart from BMWP grilles and pedals. When I Came to sell I had no problem shifting it. Buy on the mileage and history, not on options.
YH11 MJK has popped up for sale with 21,000 miles for £55,000.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Edited by Bayerische on Wednesday 5th April 17:25
Edited by Bayerische on Wednesday 5th April 17:47
E30M3SE said:
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/classifieds/use...
Cotswold Hereford have a 17K mile VO for £37K, of the cars on the AUC ssite the most expensive are £40K, one with only 2K miles.
It's very interesting to re visit this thread after 5 years and look at the market for 1M's.Cotswold Hereford have a 17K mile VO for £37K, of the cars on the AUC ssite the most expensive are £40K, one with only 2K miles.
Edited by E30M3SE on Monday 15th October 14:26
Now we can only dream about a 2000 mile car costing £40,000. In todays market the asking price would be north of £60,000 for a similar mileage car.
Many people held off buying in the hopes that prices would fall as the cars got a few years older, but as can be seen in the classifieds, that never happened.
I expected the prices of the 1M to soften when the M2 came out, but that has not happened either.
I think the introduction of the M2 in 2016 has actually pushed up prices of the 1M , most motoring journalists agree that the M2 is not as good as the 1M.
Personally my view is that there will always be a strong demand for the 1M, probably the reason why the 1M has remained stubbornly expensive in every market worldwide.
I wonder what the price of a 1M will be if we revisit this thread in 2022. My guess is that in the medium to long term, prices will continue to rise.
Edited by Bayerische on Wednesday 5th April 20:00
I'm amazed by the prices of these at 5 years old!
They are just a 1 series with an N54 engine with a lighter flywheel and M3 Diff and M3 suspension... but guess you could say similar of an M2 ..
Makes my 335i looks like a bargain, although I know full well handling is no where near the 1M.
Anyone considering one of these should fit oil catch cans straight away. The N54 suffers terribly with Oil blow by on the intake valves. Rob Beck now has an external PCV solution with an oil catch can for the Vacuum side of things now which almost eliminates crank case ventilation oils from being sucked into the valves under idle and non boost conditions.
http://www.rbturbo.com/products/accessories/rb-n54...
They are just a 1 series with an N54 engine with a lighter flywheel and M3 Diff and M3 suspension... but guess you could say similar of an M2 ..
Makes my 335i looks like a bargain, although I know full well handling is no where near the 1M.
Anyone considering one of these should fit oil catch cans straight away. The N54 suffers terribly with Oil blow by on the intake valves. Rob Beck now has an external PCV solution with an oil catch can for the Vacuum side of things now which almost eliminates crank case ventilation oils from being sucked into the valves under idle and non boost conditions.
http://www.rbturbo.com/products/accessories/rb-n54...
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