E30 M3 prices

[e30m3Mark]

Deptford Draylons said:

Then

Nurburgring04_1111 by e30 m3, on Flickr

Now

100_1437 by e30 m3, on Flickr

At least it's all still there.

[BSSBMW]

Deptford Draylons said:

Then

Nurburgring04_1111 by e30 m3, on Flickr

Ah! BMG off the zone!

[Deptford Draylons]

e30m3Mark said:

At least it's all still there.

Well, there in the garage, there in the house, there at my parents house, there at my brothers house....

[Deptford Draylons]

BSSBMW said:

Ah! BMG off the zone!

My part number guru !

[Rich_W]

Deptford Draylons said:

Then

Nurburgring04_1111 by e30 m3, on Flickr

Now

100_1437 by e30 m3, on Flickr

Just FlickR stalked your pics

Good work then chap!

Are you finding most parts are available with a delay (B/O Germany) Or are you having to mix/match with other BMW's? Or find alternative sources?


Seeing the Reserve tank took me back to the many hours I spent in Petrol Stations trying to hold the nozzle and trigger in just the right position to fill it without it constantly clicking off! I presume there is a fix in terms of better breather arrangement for that?

[Deptford Draylons]

Rich_W said:

Just FlickR stalked your pics

Good work then chap!

Are you finding most parts are available with a delay (B/O Germany) Or are you having to mix/match with other BMW's? Or find alternative sources?


Seeing the Reserve tank took me back to the many hours I spent in Petrol Stations trying to hold the nozzle and trigger in just the right position to fill it without it constantly clicking off! I presume there is a fix in terms of better breather arrangement for that?

There's a rebuild thread on S14.net and E30Zone which is a bit easier on the eye than Flickr.

https://s14net.vbulletin.net/forum/s14/e30-m3-gall...

Parts availability hasn't proven too much of a problem so far, but might do when moving on to the expensive bit which is the bodywork. The rear wheel arches are 2 parts per side, only 1 panel of which is available. Not sure what I may need, but one is fairly rusty, so may prove problematic. Hopefully with BMW saying they are on back order, they will appear again.

The electric rad fan isn't available and something I would have bought new. The 325I item is available,looks identical but isn't correct for an M3 for some reason of which I don't know why. Some of the trim would be a problem for others missing bits or converting back track cars. Most of mine seems OK but the parcel shelf is NLA. Mine I think is usable, but something which again I would have probably liked to have bought new.

Most of the parts time is spent cross checking bits which are available aftermarket, but which are the exact same BMW part. This is items like the aluminium control arms and suspension stuff which is all Lemforder brand and half the price when not purchased via BMW. There is a huge amount of money to be saved here and still getting the exact same part, the front hub/wheel bearing being another item where you can save hundreds in one go.

BMW has some crazily priced parts which make you wonder sometime. When I dismantled the car I cut all the petrol lines with the reasoning being you would never use any of it and it would all be available cheaply. The breather nylon lines are £100 each for about 1.5m of nylon line, which is otherwise £2 per meter when nut cut to length and without a flare on each end.
The petrol tank is £1K bare and not something I was prepared to pay. Finding a perfect used one in a breakers works perfect for me at less than a tenth of the cost.
The gearbox rebuild was never going to be cheap, but again you can buy some of the generic bearings aftermarket, but one is unique and £225 for the bearing and sleeve alone. Synchro rings can be bought aftermarket at a fraction of the cost via BMW. Basically you just have to be smart and search before you buy. Hardly anything has been bought via a UK BMW dealer, most of it coming from Germany and priced in Euros.

[E30M3SE]

Deptford Draylons said:

There's a rebuild thread on S14.net and E30Zone which is a bit easier on the eye than Flickr.

https://s14net.vbulletin.net/forum/s14/e30-m3-gall...

That issue with the outer driveshaft boot sleeve is also prevalent to '46 M3. Turner Motorsport in the USA sell an outer cv joint housing rebuilt kit,

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1966-e46-m3-out...

the housing sleeve they sell is a snug fit over the outer joint and has 6 grub screw to tighten onto the joint to keep in place. You maybe able to do similar to your Dodge sleeve to hold it in place rather than crimping it, which is my understanding as to why the E46 shafts are BMW only, at circa £600+vat each and cannot be re-manufactured by any of the aftermarket.



Turners housing with BMW boot kit.

I'll post pictures of rebuilt E46 shafts using the Turners housing and BMW boot kits tomorrow.

[e30m3Mark]

I used E28 front wheel bearings on my old black car and a Halfords puller to swap the ABS rings. I warmed them in the oven first, while my Mrs was at work.

[Rich_W]

Deptford Draylons said:

The rear wheel arches are 2 parts per side, only 1 panel of which is available. Not sure what I may need, but one is fairly rusty, so may prove problematic. Hopefully with BMW saying they are on back order, they will appear again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dp4f6i2sQA

You might like this


I've never heard of them BMP Carbon, but it looks interesting.


ETA

DD said:

but the parcel shelf is NLA. Mine I think is usable, but something which again I would have probably liked to have bought new

Re-trimmers? Or is it actually bent/damaged?

Edited by Rich_W on Sunday 4th February 18:50

[e30m3Mark]

Rich_W said:

Deptford Draylons said:

The rear wheel arches are 2 parts per side, only 1 panel of which is available. Not sure what I may need, but one is fairly rusty, so may prove problematic. Hopefully with BMW saying they are on back order, they will appear again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dp4f6i2sQA

You might like this


I've never heard of them BMP Carbon, but it looks interesting.

Spencer Latham. He's built some very nice E30 M3 track cars and M3 replicas. I have one of his carbon fibre parcel shelf in my own.

[Deptford Draylons]

The driveshafts have some wear, but nothing too bad. Aftermarket stuff seems questionable as to if it even fits correctly and the ABS is positioned right, from what I've read. New BMW parts are around £1000 a pair.
I did see the Turner covers, but weren't sure they were a fit on E30 stuff and didn't fancy paying £200 plus to get them here. The cheapo covers I found were around £10 and the CV end is the perfect size and crimps down into the original lip, just as factory. It's a bit of an experiment, but worth trying for the cost.

The finished item came out nicely original looking and feels much better rebuilt with fresh grease.

20171113_095113 by e30 m3, on Flickr

Yep, front hubs are a big saving point over coughing up at a dealer counter and a well known saving for years now. I found E28 parts on eBay described as Ruville brand , messaged the seller asking what brand bearing or what markings were on them , told they were SKF brand and bought them, SKF being what you would get via BMW at an inflated price.

The rear arches should be available by the time I need them, so not too worried. Not sure I could fit and bond in carbon items on a stock rebuild, but at least something is available if need be. I did a rust repair back in about 2006 on the passenger side when I got carried away cleaning and found the plastic guard for the petrol overflow tank is quite a mud trap. Lets see what happens when the shell is on a rotisserie and there;s hours of fun to be had removing all that underseal.

The parcel shelf has been cut I think by a previous owner for some speakers. Not actually totally sure what is factory stock on these cars speaker wise, but the shelf looks kinda tired and I don't think anyone has found the perfect match material to recover. Might be possible to dye both to match as I think the actual shelf was sound. That's a bit far of to worry about just yet.

[Rich_W]

Deptford Draylons said:

Lets see what happens when the shell is on a rotisserie and there;s hours of fun to be had removing all that underseal.

Friend of mine is dong a Jap car. MONTHS to take it all off he said!

Apparently dipping works. But there's only 1 decent place (Birmingham IIRC) that does it and it's £3,5K! I think I'd pay it just to save the effort

[Deptford Draylons]

I did look at dipping it, but been put off. Another M3 owner who did this said he wouldn't do it again and so have a few others that I found on some classic forums. Reviews were quite mixed, one chap had his MGB shell down 6 years ago and then let it sit untouched and says its still perfect. The cost to dip, remove and take away for repairs and then re-dip and e-coat is too much and I think overkill for my car.

Been looking at blasting options and found this company who also did a lot of the powdercoating for me. http://www.ctc-powder-coating.co.uk/shotblasting/c...

They also do thermal zinc metallisation option which might be worth looking into further for the underside.

http://www.ctc-powder-coating.co.uk/metallisation-...

With those options and the ability to blast and immediately prime in epoxy paint, could be a good one-stop-shop option.

From what I gather, they seem to do a lot of work and body shells for http://www.jdclassics.com/

[e30m3Mark]

I know someone else who dipped their E30 M3 shell and it came back with the box sections still bleeding partially diluted dipping solvents. Personally I would go with media blasting, especially now the media they use has moved on.

[Matter88]

I had mine blasted top & bottom by Hockly Motorsport. Once blasted they set an apprentice on the other side for 3 days to scrape all the sealant off the underside whilst the car was on the spit. Then it was blasted again, and rust repairs carried out. Then blasted again, prior to primer.

I can't recall exactly what the cost of that blasting & stripping part alone was, but that bit was certainly less than £1000. I try very hard to stay away from the box of invoices as the total is nauseating.

Hockly are excellent, second time I've used them.

Harry Hockly Motorsport Ltd
Unit 7
Dyffryn Industrial Estate
Pool Road
Newtown
Powys
SY16 3BD

Tel: [phone]

Fax: [phone]

Email: [e-mail]

I would not dip a shell personally.

[Deptford Draylons]

Yep, problems with dipping have put me off, that and the fact its not a total rust bucket anyway.
The thermal zinc spray looks interesting for the underside, seems to effectively add metal to areas pitted by rust ? It's a shame they don't have a body shop as part of their business. Hockly is blasting, body repairs and paint all in one ?

[silentbrown]

Deptford Draylons said:

. Hockly is blasting, body repairs and paint all in one ?

I thought it was mainly bodyshell prep for rally cars?

Link with prices for bead blasting: http://hh-ms.com/bead-blast/

[Matter88]

silentbrown said:

Deptford Draylons said:

. Hockly is blasting, body repairs and paint all in one ?

I thought it was mainly bodyshell prep for rally cars?

Link with prices for bead blasting: http://hh-ms.com/bead-blast/

They do lots, and speak about very little online. Quite an old fashioned business in that respect.

Mine was ruined rot wise when they first received it. They did all the restoration, cage work, and painting in house to a very good standard for sensible "as far as it can be) money.

[Deptford Draylons]

This one in the PH classifieds seems a touch optimistic at £90K. The ad hardly sells it beyond wondering why its not at least £50K overpriced.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

[silentbrown]

Deptford Draylons said:

This one in the PH classifieds seems a touch optimistic at £90K. The ad hardly sells it beyond wondering why its not at least £50K overpriced.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

Mismatched wheels front and back - I think we had that one a couple of pages ago?