M2 Owners - Manual or DCT?

M2 Owners - Manual or DCT?

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Ursicles

Original Poster:

1,068 posts

242 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Had a test drive in an M2 today and really rather liked it.

Dealer was trying to convince me to jump into one of their cancelled orders (Stephen James Ruxley if anyone looking have a black and white one coming in both cancelled orders) but both were DCT.

When i said i would prefer a manual, he said i was crazy, so wondering what people have bought here?

(And glad i held out as came back to find out about the M2 updates - minor, but still prefer the newer LCI car smile )

DAWSpyder

38 posts

123 months

Thursday 11th May 2017
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Just ordered a manual. Want to have the engagement of choosing when to change gear, which I suspect most of the drivers who see this car as appealing will also want.

Although I see that a third registered so far are manual, two thirds DCT.

Should help to keep residuals on manual a little stronger based on numbers of cars available.

Phateuk

751 posts

137 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Ursicles said:
Had a test drive in an M2 today and really rather liked it.

Dealer was trying to convince me to jump into one of their cancelled orders (Stephen James Ruxley if anyone looking have a black and white one coming in both cancelled orders) but both were DCT.

When i said i would prefer a manual, he said i was crazy, so wondering what people have bought here?

(And glad i held out as came back to find out about the M2 updates - minor, but still prefer the newer LCI car smile )
scratchchin

Bayerische

244 posts

161 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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This is what Chris Harris thinks.


https://www.topgear.com/videos/chris-harris-drives...


If it were me I would go for a manual.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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The pedals in the M2 are horribly offset. The gearshift isn't that amazing either.
I'd go for DCT, seems to match the character of the car.
My friend who owns one agrees.

P.Griffin

384 posts

114 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Unless you are trying to break lap times rather than have fun and engage yourself with the driving experience, I really can't see why anyone would choose an auto. That being said, nearly every journo you hear says the same yet the buying public tend to lean in favour of auto when given the choice so i'm confused. I'm a bit older so grew up with manuals and don't see the point of an auto in a sports car so perhaps they're aimed at younger drivers.

Edited by P.Griffin on Friday 12th May 11:36

Ursicles

Original Poster:

1,068 posts

242 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Waiting for them to confirm what updates there are to the newer version as just been offered 2 manual cancelled orders!

Ursicles

Original Poster:

1,068 posts

242 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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P.Griffin said:
Unless you are trying to break lap times rather than have fun and engage yourself with the driving experience, I really can't see why anyone would choose an auto. That being said, nearly every journo you hear says the same yet the buying public tend to lean in favour of auto when given the choice so i'm confused. I'm a bit older so grew up with manuals and don't see the point of an auto in a sports car so perhaps they're aimed at younger drivers.

Edited by P.Griffin on Friday 12th May 11:36
And this is the thing ... the auto was nice and all, but i felt a bit disconnected with it as ive always had fun cars that are manual - integra, 911 turbo, even my old corrado! There is something about changing gears and being in control of the car by myself that makes it more special.

I get that u can do it with flap paddles etc, but having had them in my 335d a while back, i never really used them and just let the car do the work as thats the point of the auto i figured.

aponting389

741 posts

178 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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driven both, bought a manual. the dct is great but as its a weekend car i wanted a manual. The pedals are not offset but i agree the gearchange isnt amazing, hoping it will bed in a little its quite notchy atm, car is still very new though.

P.Griffin

384 posts

114 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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xjay1337 said:
The pedals in the M2 are horribly offset.
Quantify "horribly offset"? Most people wouldn't notice unless some pedantic journo hadn't pointed it out, and for the record, the gear change is absolutely fine. I'm assuming the other 2 pedals in the DCT are equally offset.

Andy OH

1,905 posts

250 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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xjay1337 said:
The pedals in the M2 are horribly offset. The gearshift isn't that amazing either.
I'd go for DCT, seems to match the character of the car.
My friend who owns one agrees.
The pedals are not offset, however,the brake pedal on the DCT is like a normal sized brake pedal in a manual car and not like the larger brake pedals found in most other auto gearbox cars. That may be why you think the pedals are offset?

I agree with you that the DCT matches the car's character as I own an M2 DCT and I can say it's a fantastic gearbox and I have no regrets at all getting a DCT over the manual box even though it would have saved me £2,645. I've owned many manual cars including all previous M3's, apart from the F80 M3, and all my previous M3's were all manual.

Owlwood

252 posts

156 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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I went for DCT. I had it in my M3 and I loved it. Didnt even bother test driving the manual.

In the M3 you can choose the change speed, in the M2 it goes by what mode the car is in. Its not something I miss but on the fastest setting the changes were more brutal in the M3, which was fun. The changes are fast when in Sport on the M2 though. The only other difference I notice is that its slower when changing from reverse to drive in the M2.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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P.Griffin said:
Quantify "horribly offset"? Most people wouldn't notice unless some pedantic journo hadn't pointed it out, and for the record, the gear change is absolutely fine. I'm assuming the other 2 pedals in the DCT are equally offset.
I notice it instantly in many cars. I'm not a pedantic journo. Compared to lots of cars, cars the m2 clutch is closer to where the brake pedal is ergo you feel like your feet and legs are going to the right.

Same issue on audi a4 etc. Causes me a lot of knee pain.

Id have to have an auto in those models.

P.Griffin

384 posts

114 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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xjay1337 said:
you feel like your feet and legs are going to the right.

Same issue on audi a4 etc. Causes me a lot of knee pain.
Please forgive me if you have a genuine disability but I find this statement a ridiculous over exaggeration. If not I'd consider going to the gym or seeing a physio.

Edited by P.Griffin on Friday 12th May 14:23

Ursicles

Original Poster:

1,068 posts

242 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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My mates pedals are offset really badly in his 360 ... he seems to cope ok smile

Billy_Whizzzz

2,006 posts

143 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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What's the gearing like in the manual? I have a manual m140i and the gearing is annoyingly short in 6th. I love the car with the gearbox - just wish 6th was longer. Been wondering about an M2 so keen to know about final drive in 6th compared with auto in top...

RicM5

190 posts

206 months

Friday 12th May 2017
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Bought DCT M2 took delivery June last year...... hated the gearbox and hated the seats....
Sold it and bought a manual 997 Carreras S which I'm still in love with nearly a year on!!!!

Yanto

543 posts

208 months

Saturday 13th May 2017
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DCT for me, picked up in March. No regrets.

But I'm a flappy guy now and have this in CSL (SMG) and GTi (DSG)

f430hunter

338 posts

205 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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Dct for me would drive nothing else.

JNW1

7,774 posts

194 months

Monday 15th May 2017
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Billy_Whizzzz said:
What's the gearing like in the manual? I have a manual m140i and the gearing is annoyingly short in 6th. I love the car with the gearbox - just wish 6th was longer. Been wondering about an M2 so keen to know about final drive in 6th compared with auto in top...
Can't help with the gearing on the M2 I'm afraid but how short is short on the manual M140i - roughly how many revs is it pulling at 70mph in top?