BMW E92 M3 Oil service botched by BMW?

[RS250_Steve]

As I said earlier, the miles aren't for getting the engine to temp, it's to allow the car to calc the correct oil level.
It's in the manual.
I don't think 30miles is excessive to ensure the system if functioning correctly.

[dodge586]

The reason no one else drives it because it's my car, my pride and joy. Surely on a car forum such as this it's not necessary to explain the notion of pride and joy? If I damage it it's fine - if someone else damages it then I'm not going to be happy. Also, anyone else, female or otherwise puts the insurance up – I know I’ve tried.

But also, cars are different things to different people. A car to you might only be something to get you from A to B but a car to someone else might be something they have idolised and saved 10 years for... the thought of it being treated inappropriately when you take the upmost care of something is not a comfortable one...
expectation is that when you hand it over to a dealer they provide a professional service, look after it and treat is with respect.
I'm trying to let it go, but I know it has been ragged. The fly spatter is the give away - it looks like when I've bought it back after a blast, nice long streaks!

I also looked up the technician that did the work on facebook. Yep, he looks like he's looks immature and stupid enough to rag a customers car, evidently likes driving his own car fast and arguably stupidly…
I’m going to draw a line under it and simply go to a specialist from now on. The more I think about some tool ragging my car the more irritated I’m getting. I’ve not been impressed with the service throughout – they didn’t once call me when they said they would. Sod the dealer stamp, the service falls way short of the price tag.

[Welshbeef]

dodge586 said:

The reason no one else drives it because it's my car, my pride and joy. Surely on a car forum such as this it's not necessary to explain the notion of pride and joy? If I damage it it's fine - if someone else damages it then I'm not going to be happy. Also, anyone else, female or otherwise puts the insurance up – I know I’ve tried.

But also, cars are different things to different people. A car to you might only be something to get you from A to B but a car to someone else might be something they have idolised and saved 10 years for... the thought of it being treated inappropriately when you take the upmost care of something is not a comfortable one...
expectation is that when you hand it over to a dealer they provide a professional service, look after it and treat is with respect.
I'm trying to let it go, but I know it has been ragged. The fly spatter is the give away - it looks like when I've bought it back after a blast, nice long streaks!

I also looked up the technician that did the work on facebook. Yep, he looks like he's looks immature and stupid enough to rag a customers car, evidently likes driving his own car fast and arguably stupidly…
I’m going to draw a line under it and simply go to a specialist from now on. The more I think about some tool ragging my car the more irritated I’m getting. I’ve not been impressed with the service throughout – they didn’t once call me when they said they would. Sod the dealer stamp, the service falls way short of the price tag.

Quoted to prevent deletion.

I think you cover all bases with that post.


What do you think about how the previous owner(s) and technicians and those who drive it from the ferry ice cold engine giving it a proper blast


BMW should be giving it back to you fully washed that's part of the service now with fly streaks. BTW I get fly streaks from M way driving - that's 8th gear 1,300rpm at M way speed.

[JMBMWM5]

dodge586 said:

The reason no one else drives it because it's my car, my pride and joy. Surely on a car forum such as this it's not necessary to explain the notion of pride and joy? If I damage it it's fine - if someone else damages it then I'm not going to be happy. Also, anyone else, female or otherwise puts the insurance up – I know I’ve tried.

But also, cars are different things to different people. A car to you might only be something to get you from A to B but a car to someone else might be something they have idolised and saved 10 years for... the thought of it being treated inappropriately when you take the upmost care of something is not a comfortable one...
expectation is that when you hand it over to a dealer they provide a professional service, look after it and treat is with respect.
I'm trying to let it go, but I know it has been ragged. The fly spatter is the give away - it looks like when I've bought it back after a blast, nice long streaks!

I also looked up the technician that did the work on facebook. Yep, he looks like he's looks immature and stupid enough to rag a customers car, evidently likes driving his own car fast and arguably stupidly…
I’m going to draw a line under it and simply go to a specialist from now on. The more I think about some tool ragging my car the more irritated I’m getting. I’ve not been impressed with the service throughout – they didn’t once call me when they said they would. Sod the dealer stamp, the service falls way short of the price tag.

I understand your points as i am also a "Car Nut" and OCD about my cars.
Fit a dash cam, and use another dealership for servicing, when it goes in next tell them of previous experience (if you want) and advise you don't want the car pushed hard. It did not do your car any harm pushing it, so just move on.

[Welshbeef]

dodge586 said:

The reason no one else drives it because it's my car, my pride and joy. Surely on a car forum such as this it's not necessary to explain the notion of pride and joy? If I damage it it's fine - if someone else damages it then I'm not going to be happy. Also, anyone else, female or otherwise puts the insurance up – I know I’ve tried.

But also, cars are different things to different people. A car to you might only be something to get you from A to B but a car to someone else might be something they have idolised and saved 10 years for... the thought of it being treated inappropriately when you take the upmost care of something is not a comfortable one...
expectation is that when you hand it over to a dealer they provide a professional service, look after it and treat is with respect.
I'm trying to let it go, but I know it has been ragged. The fly spatter is the give away - it looks like when I've bought it back after a blast, nice long streaks!

I also looked up the technician that did the work on facebook. Yep, he looks like he's looks immature and stupid enough to rag a customers car, evidently likes driving his own car fast and arguably stupidly…
I’m going to draw a line under it and simply go to a specialist from now on. The more I think about some tool ragging my car the more irritated I’m getting. I’ve not been impressed with the service throughout – they didn’t once call me when they said they would. Sod the dealer stamp, the service falls way short of the price tag.

That's the same in my experience (re responsiveness)

Honda
BMW
Ford
Seat
Volvo
Fiat
And VW.

So appears to be the case every where

That said small (and I mean small) garages do call you back but that's part of probably only having 2-3 jobs in in a day v 30-40.

[kev b]

Words fail me.

How did we manage when we only had the crude low tech, old fashioned, cheap, simple dipstick?

[Welshbeef]

I wonder how many people test drive OPs car before blue bought it? Maybe from a dealer so zero regard to letting it get up to temp! Then on the limiter each gear!

[InductionRoar]

Welshbeef said:

I wonder how many people test drive OPs car before blue bought it? Maybe from a dealer so zero regard to letting it get up to temp! Then on the limiter each gear!

So much superfluous punctuation, so little content.

[Welshbeef]

InductionRoar said:

Welshbeef said:

I wonder how many people test drive OPs car before blue bought it? Maybe from a dealer so zero regard to letting it get up to temp! Then on the limiter each gear!

So much superfluous punctuation, so little content.

Where is that Whoosh Parrot?
We're all taking the piss out of OP for his OCD and refusal to listen to many explaining the whys + him apparently livid with a possibility of what might of happened (to the extent he snooped on the technician via Facebook.... normal behaviour ?)

[stevesingo]

Reminds me of this...



Just put the past to the back of your mind and enjoy the ride.

[xjay1337]

My mechanic took my car to 130 on the local bypass for testing.
Found out one of my boost hoses was collapsing om itself. Thanked him by spending another £1500 with him !

MAN UP YOU WHINEY LIL BEACH.

[cslwannabe]

Welshbeef said:

Have you ever MOT'd this car?

If so the engine is running for the full test (so zero MPG) for about 40mins give or take.

Not the case whenever I've waited for my car while it was being tested.

[SebringMan]

cslwannabe said:

Not the case whenever I've waited for my car while it was being tested.

Depending on the car it's the difference between it passing an MOT or not ; the cats need to be warm to work. I know that a mate's RS4 is almost impossible to pass unless it is warmed up ; it then sails through.

It seems people want a working car and tested with no miles put onto it. Welcome to reality. Theory does not always pan out as you expect as tinkerers will say.

[Welshbeef]

cslwannabe said:

Not the case whenever I've waited for my car while it was being tested.

Well your old F13 640d will certainly have been running the whole time and during the smoke test in neutral the throttle is flat to the floor for 10-30 seconds it's to the limiter (just as it is for every diesel).

The Golf R you have is too new for an MOT.

[cslwannabe]

Only had the 640d until it was 2.5 years old so it never needed testing. I always wait with the Boxster when it's being tested but it's usually had a good drive before they start the test. They generally start it up 3 or 4 times but certainly don't leave it idling for long.

[gcpeters]

and the said BMW dealer is located where....?

[Welshbeef]

gcpeters said:

and the said BMW dealer is located where....?

As I understand any posts naming and shaming a commercial entity the post will be removed PDQ due to T&Cs of this site.

[InductionRoar]

Welshbeef said:

cslwannabe said:

Not the case whenever I've waited for my car while it was being tested.

Well your old F13 640d will certainly have been running the whole time and during the smoke test in neutral the throttle is flat to the floor for 10-30 seconds it's to the limiter (just as it is for every diesel).

The Golf R you have is too new for an MOT.

My car is not left running for the duration of the MOT either. I know this because I stand with it whilst it is being done. How would leaving the engine running warm the cats up more than driving it to the MOT station?

[Welshbeef]

InductionRoar said:

My car is not left running for the duration of the MOT either. I know this because I stand with it whilst it is being done. How would leaving the engine running warm the cats up more than driving it to the MOT station?

You might live next door or a distance too close to the MOT test centre for them to warm up.

They also need he engine running for
1. Emissions test
2. Checking she underside of the car which includes for exhaust leaks.
3. To test the steering - power assisted
4. For the brake checks.

[InductionRoar]

Welshbeef said:

You might live next door or a distance too close to the MOT test centre for them to warm up.

They also need he engine running for
1. Emissions test
2. Checking she underside of the car which includes for exhaust leaks.
3. To test the steering - power assisted
4. For the brake checks.

None of those things would require the engine to be running for much above 10 minutes, assuming the car was tested shortly after it arrived at the station.

I still don't understand why you are trying to dishearten the OP with hypothetical stories as to how his car might have been thrashed by everybody who has ever touched it, but I think you are grasping at straws here.

Cats are very close to the engine on proper cars, so they get rather warm rather quickly and leaving the engine running doesn't create as much heat as driving under load (even taking into consideration air movement cooling it/them down). Anybody who "needs" to leave their engine running at the MOT station in order to get them up to temperature should, IMO at least, take a longer journey to the station to ensure they are already warm. Idling is not good for a car and these stories of them sitting idling for 40 minutes are frankly ludicrous.

On the topic of MOTs though. BMW test the brakes on all their cars in the same way, irrespective of whether they have a LSD (like the OP's). That would be my biggest concern come MOT time and is why, after my first MOT with BMW, I now take my car to an independent station who use a tapley meter.