M2 Brake Pads

M2 Brake Pads

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smoores

Original Poster:

213 posts

157 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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So after taking the M2 to bedford I have discovered the stock setup absolutely sucks. Fine for road use but i'd be a bit worried about doing a serious alpine trip. Uprated pads seem to be the first port of call (along with new fluid and maybe braided lines). Anyone changed their pads or running the bmw performance ones? All thoughts appreciated. Not gonna run the car as a dedicated track toy just want to be able to take it every now and then for a bit of a hoon.

SebringMan

1,773 posts

185 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Without being funny, how many track days have you done and how much tuition have you had?

If not I'd get some tuition. What you spend on tuition will be saved on brakes and tyres. I know for me a few pointers really helped.

Otherwise, you can try the old favourite Pagid RS29s which on other M cars seem to work very well.

smoores

Original Poster:

213 posts

157 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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Valid question, quite a bit tbh. Few track days a year and probably 10 test days (with tuition) + some racing. I'm used to brakes that work all day every single time you smash them. After a lap in the m2 at bedford west circuit (pretty brutal on brakes) gradually working up to find braking points I started to feel the pedal go to the floor so trying to find some pads that help a bit but don't squeal. (The pagid's are known for being horrific in this regard). Other options are maybe improving the cooling to the brakes with some ducts or slight mods. It's only for a few days a year so maybe ultimately I don't change anything other than fluid and accept i'll smoke a set of pads.

saveloy

115 posts

125 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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You'll be fine with Pagid RS29 pads all round & Castrol SRF brake fluid. I've used both (albeit the older RS19) on my 1M for years.
I've done many track days, including the full Bedford GT circuit a number of times, and the brakes never falter. When they squeal they need a few aggressive stops and then they are fine again.

Kyri

peterpeter

6,437 posts

256 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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hi there

Im looking at getting some ferodo ds 2500s

i have them on my Nissan GTR and they are superb and a good compromise for RS 29s which while better can squeal badly on a daily driver..

my m2 is a daily so im going the ds 2500 route first and uprated fluid.. im fairly confident they should be fine

I was at that track day (in fact I think I spoke to you) as I my GTR was on the 2500 s that evening and they held up well all evening no issues

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 22nd July 2017
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I'd be tempted to change the fluid to something more track orientated and see how that performs before investing in new pads.

smoores

Original Poster:

213 posts

157 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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Hi Peter, yes I do indeed remember. After some roundabout research I arrived separately at the ds2500 so think it seems like a solid choice. Have you found any pictures from that evening? Having no luck

ftypical

457 posts

117 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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There appear to be some alternative pads listed by BMW themselves:

34112284969 - which appear to be the standard asbestos-free items;

34112284765 - Sport brake pads, which are listed as alternate parts.

There are equivalents for the rear too.

SimNugget

580 posts

169 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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I fitted the BMW track pads (not sure whether they are referred to as Sport, Performance or track pads) and they are so much better, little bit squeaky but good on track.

Along with Goodrich lines and Castro SRF.

S

peterpeter

6,437 posts

256 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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smoores said:
Hi Peter, yes I do indeed remember. After some roundabout research I arrived separately at the ds2500 so think it seems like a solid choice. Have you found any pictures from that evening? Having no luck
there are some pics on evo's site..

like your utube vid!-

Im doing silverstone in sept with goldtrack- and hoping to get the ferodos/ Castrol `SRF done..

im guessing the current brake hoses are crap too??

octainejunkee

121 posts

182 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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if you want the best track pads without going crazy on price- contact Ian at https://www.carbotech.co.uk/
and get some carbotech xp10's for £325 along with srf fluid,

If you want some great pads that dont squeak or fade on road or track then id contact Chris at c1-r for a set of endless me 20 pads http://www.c1-r.co.uk/#Contact

Ive run loads of Pads on road and track cars including f80 m3's which run your calipers and found those two to be the best of the bunch.

cheers Jamie

peterpeter

6,437 posts

256 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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octainejunkee said:
if you want the best track pads without going crazy on price- contact Ian at https://www.carbotech.co.uk/
and get some carbotech xp10's for £325 along with srf fluid,

If you want some great pads that dont squeak or fade on road or track then id contact Chris at c1-r for a set of endless me 20 pads http://www.c1-r.co.uk/#Contact

Ive run loads of Pads on road and track cars including f80 m3's which run your calipers and found those two to be the best of the bunch.

cheers Jamie
thanks jamie.. that first link seems to go to a carbonated drinks company! - can you check that link?

peterpeter

6,437 posts

256 months

Sunday 23rd July 2017
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octainejunkee said:
if you want the best track pads without going crazy on price- contact Ian at https://www.carbotech.co.uk/
and get some carbotech xp10's for £325 along with srf fluid,

If you want some great pads that dont squeak or fade on road or track then id contact Chris at c1-r for a set of endless me 20 pads http://www.c1-r.co.uk/#Contact

Ive run loads of Pads on road and track cars including f80 m3's which run your calipers and found those two to be the best of the bunch.

cheers Jamie
thanks jamie.. that first link seems to go to a carbonated drinks company! - can you check that link?

octainejunkee

121 posts

182 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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http://carbotech-europe.com/ ask for Ian he is a brake pad guru and will guide you for the best pads for your needs..

smoores

Original Poster:

213 posts

157 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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octainejunkee said:
http://carbotech-europe.com/ ask for Ian he is a brake pad guru and will guide you for the best pads for your needs..
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slipstream 1985

12,125 posts

178 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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What is with bmw and crap brakes. my z3 and m3 have both been poor.

SebringMan

1,773 posts

185 months

Monday 24th July 2017
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slipstream 1985 said:
What is with bmw and crap brakes. my z3 and m3 have both been poor.
What brand of pads did you have? Only BMW sell the M spec pads. Textar make them. You can buy the correct Textar pads in the M spec but ECP don't sell them ; I guess they would be too expensive. From what I have seen the M-Spec Textars are near dealer prices elsewhere.

The issue is that 330i pads fit directly in. I am on genuine BMW pads and mine are fine.

peterpeter

6,437 posts

256 months

Monday 4th September 2017
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hi Sam

I had a track day last friday- bedford again. evening

took my M2-

booked the car in to have Ferodo 2500s and SRF

however my mechanic did not have time to do the SRF- so that was very annoying. and pretty much had me worried the whole day -

however it wasnt bad.. and Im pretty sure I was able to do 4-5 laps before the pedal felt a bit mushy..even then nothing

frightening.. so I think with some SRF also it really should do the trick (Im at silverstone in about 2 weeks)



As an aside.. do you know if the brakelines in the M2 are worth keeping or should be changed?


smoores

Original Poster:

213 posts

157 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Hi Peter, glad to hear the pads helped. I'm ordering a set at the moment. What part numbers did you get? FCP4611H fronts and FCP4663H for the rear? I've ordered some braided lines as I figure might as well do it all at once with the fluid.

iguana

7,025 posts

259 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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Really surprised you went for DS2500s, are pretty universally slated for being awful on heavy cars on track, just so many far far better choices.