Will I hate an e92 m3

Will I hate an e92 m3

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Wills2

22,785 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Not a 30 Jarah F10 M5.

Chug along in 7th then WOT that’s epic
Is It? You've no idea if it is, 7th is geared for 250mph it's not an epic gear at all.

Good to see you're still on here talking crap.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Wills2 said:
Welshbeef said:
Not a 30 Jarah F10 M5.

Chug along in 7th then WOT that’s epic
Is It? You've no idea if it is, 7th is geared for 250mph it's not an epic gear at all.

Good to see you're still on here talking crap.
Unless Steve Sutcliffe (yes the Autocar one who works for ahymarket who own Pistonheads) was telling porkie pies in his Autocar video for this car on YouTube where that is mentioned then I guess not.


Ps you have not driven a 30 Jarah have you?

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Unless Steve Sutcliffe (yes the Autocar one who works for ahymarket who own Pistonheads) was telling porkie pies in his Autocar video for this car on YouTube where that is mentioned then I guess not.


Ps you have not driven a 30 Jarah have you?
Firstly, your comment regards M5 is irrelevant. We're not talking about M5s.

Secondly, wtf are you on about anyway?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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janesmith1950 said:
Welshbeef said:
Unless Steve Sutcliffe (yes the Autocar one who works for ahymarket who own Pistonheads) was telling porkie pies in his Autocar video for this car on YouTube where that is mentioned then I guess not.


Ps you have not driven a 30 Jarah have you?
Firstly, your comment regards M5 is irrelevant. We're not talking about M5s.

Secondly, wtf are you on about anyway?
Fido (top of this page) mentioned the M2 and it’s styld of delivery My comment linked to that as I quoted him/her. Is that the confusion?

The above was responding to Wills post

Seriously what do you mean - the Fido initial post or the Wills retort and my follow up?

rassi

2,451 posts

251 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Unless Steve Sutcliffe (yes the Autocar one who works for ahymarket who own Pistonheads) was telling porkie pies in his Autocar video for this car on YouTube where that is mentioned then I guess not.


Ps you have not driven a 30 Jarah have you?
First, it is a 30 Jahre.

Second, 7th gear is indeed geared for some silly 250+ mph top-speed - 2000 rpm equates to 80 mph. Therefore, putting your foot down in 7th is not "epic", just not possible, but it is of course an extremely powerful car with a very useful torque and power delivery.

Third, please go and drive an F10 M5, you obviously are fascinated by them, given the number of posts you make reference to them.

fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Fido (top of this page) mentioned the M2 and it’s styld of delivery
I mentioned the M2 because it's often the 'other' car that is compared to the E92 M3 - slightly lighter but quite similar in other ways. I'm sure a two-tonne M5 with monster torque is going to be effortless to drive but it's also going to be incredibly boring round twisty bits. Come to think of it the car I really wanted, or nearest thing to it, will be the M2 Competition - or that modified M2 which someone shoe-horned an S65 into.

TheAngryDog

12,406 posts

209 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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rassi said:
Welshbeef said:
Unless Steve Sutcliffe (yes the Autocar one who works for ahymarket who own Pistonheads) was telling porkie pies in his Autocar video for this car on YouTube where that is mentioned then I guess not.


Ps you have not driven a 30 Jarah have you?
First, it is a 30 Jahre.

Second, 7th gear is indeed geared for some silly 250+ mph top-speed - 2000 rpm equates to 80 mph. Therefore, putting your foot down in 7th is not "epic", just not possible, but it is of course an extremely powerful car with a very useful torque and power delivery.

Third, please go and drive an F10 M5, you obviously are fascinated by them, given the number of posts you make reference to them.
He'll do nothing of the sort. WB is a fully qualified bullstter.

dvshannow

1,580 posts

136 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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I don’t understand the m5 relevance either

Agree e92 m3 is a fine if tad indulgent daily as in its very competent but the fuel is a pain

It’s also a lovely GT really good for long road trips when I had mine I went from London to Inverness and then the north coast 500 and back to London in 5 days and was still enjoying the drive when got back

ratty6464

628 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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cerb4.5lee said:
survivalist said:
The S65 actually needs more revs in a heavier car, so the need to rev it hard is more noticeable.
I agree with that, and I thought the S54 was more peppy lower down in my Z4M than the S65 in the M3.
I’m agreeing with you on this one Cerb. The z4M is more aggressive at low to mid range rpm. The gearing is slightly shorter which helps too.

The s65 is very tractable at low rpm and I really enjoy it around town on the nursery run. For me it misses out in the mid range 3000-5000rpm where the weight coupled with the long gearing can leave it lacking.

Best thing to do is to turn off traction control so the diff will lock, open the window a bit, then hammer it. Soon comes alive then.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2018
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Given there are comments about the lack of torque from people who have tested it and x owners who didn’t gel - is supercharging the S65 V8 unit a solution to this?

chriscoates81

482 posts

132 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Leon R said:
Really sorry you haven't gelled with it, it's a real shame as yours is a very nice example too.

I love mine but I think that is helped a lot by two things:

1) Mine is a second car alongside a hatch that does all the mundane stuff in life meaning the M3 only gets used when I want to drive.

2) Mine is a DCT with a few upgrades meaning more power and more torque plus the servotronic update.
Whats the servotronc update all about?

dvshannow

1,580 posts

136 months

Thursday 24th May 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Given there are comments about the lack of torque from people who have tested it and x owners who didn’t gel - is supercharging the S65 V8 unit a solution to this?
I dont think so its been done in the US but there are so many good turbos out there now oem why bother no2 if you want a 600bhp rwd car there are much easier routes

I see why its loads of fun though

Leon R

3,206 posts

96 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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chriscoates81 said:
Whats the servotronc update all about?
From Evolve:

Servotronic Mapping

Features

- More assist at low speeds
- Improved steering feel
- Ideal for cars with under driven pulleys where steering has become heavier
- Custom settings available at your request

FazerBoy

954 posts

150 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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dvshannow said:
I dont think so its been done in the US but there are so many good turbos out there now oem why bother no2 if you want a 600bhp rwd car there are much easier routes

I see why its loads of fun though
I have a supercharged E92 M3 with 600bhp.

It has totally different engine characteristics and sound to that of a turbocharged engine putting out the same power.

I wouldn’t swap mine for a remapped version of the current M3/M4, nor for a turbocharged M5.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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FazerBoy said:
I have a supercharged E92 M3 with 600bhp.

It has totally different engine characteristics and sound to that of a turbocharged engine putting out the same power.

I wouldn’t swap mine for a remapped version of the current M3/M4, nor for a turbocharged M5.
Now this sounds very appealing & proper Petrol head

Anyvids or performance stats?

FazerBoy

954 posts

150 months

Friday 25th May 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Now this sounds very appealing & proper Petrol head

Anyvids or performance stats?
It’s definitely quick!

It’s the ESS 625. There’s loads of vids on YouTube.

I like it because it totally retains the high-reviving character and sound of the amazing s65 V8. It still revs to 8,400rpm and the power is still mostly at the top end - there’s just a lot more of it. After 6,000rpm it goes mental...

Expensive but absolutely worth every penny.

MikeGoodwin

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3,337 posts

117 months

Saturday 26th May 2018
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It's a not a mod I can afford lol. Funny when I was trying to keep up with a c63 I was just thinking I could do with another 200hp not to mention the extra torque. The e92 has maybe 380hp stock from what I've seen and it's not slow even by current standards. God knows what 600hp is like.

Another week and I'm enjoying the m3 again. Bad commuting traffic but despite that I've had a fair few opportunities to grab the thing by the neck and abuse it (with some respect still...). Responds well to being driven hard. Its made me feel like it's a really special car again. Go figure. I may have to get a fiat panda 100hp for rainy days and winter to remind me it is genuinely good.

Can't wait for holiday to be over and I can have my exhaust mod done. Priorities....

Other update drivel.... I used some gliptone leather dye on my bolsters to get rid of some scuffs and totally ruined them a couple of months back. New dye is a different shade of black and shiny vs the old matte novo leather. Used some panel wipe today to remove the sheen and luckily they have come out spot on with the wear marks still gone. Some gliptone conditioner and the seats are looking like they have half the mileage and years on them.

See you soon for another update where I hate the m3 again.

ratty6464

628 posts

210 months

Sunday 27th May 2018
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MikeGoodwin said:
It's a not a mod I can afford lol. Funny when I was trying to keep up with a c63 I was just thinking I could do with another 200hp not to mention the extra torque. The e92 has maybe 380hp stock from what I've seen and it's not slow even by current standards. God knows what 600hp is like.

Another week and I'm enjoying the m3 again. Bad commuting traffic but despite that I've had a fair few opportunities to grab the thing by the neck and abuse it (with some respect still...). Responds well to being driven hard. Its made me feel like it's a really special car again. Go figure. I may have to get a fiat panda 100hp for rainy days and winter to remind me it is genuinely good.

Can't wait for holiday to be over and I can have my exhaust mod done. Priorities....

Other update drivel.... I used some gliptone leather dye on my bolsters to get rid of some scuffs and totally ruined them a couple of months back. New dye is a different shade of black and shiny vs the old matte novo leather. Used some panel wipe today to remove the sheen and luckily they have come out spot on with the wear marks still gone. Some gliptone conditioner and the seats are looking like they have half the mileage and years on them.

See you soon for another update where I hate the m3 again.
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A month after I first got the M3 i nearly traded it in for a 135i, but the salesman convinced me not to. Glad he did.

Stick with it and one day it will just click. It’s not perfect by any means but once you fully gel with it it will be fun.