F90 M5 first performance test numbers

[Wills2]

Car and driver have tested the car.

0-60 2.8
0-100 6.6
0-130 10.9
0-150 15.9

Pretty impressive numbers the 0-100 mph is very impressive.

[Elysium]

Crikey. I assumed the 0-60 would be one of those rolling start US tests, but the article says it was done with launch control.

I think the fastest I have seen for the f10 is 3.8 secs. This 4wd stuff is quite effectve!

[Digitalize]

Elysium said:

Crikey. I assumed the 0-60 would be one of those rolling start US tests, but the article says it was done with launch control.

I think the fastest I have seen for the f10 is 3.8 secs. This 4wd stuff is quite effectve!

Traction was the main issue with F10's. Despite weighing far more an X5/6M would post a very similar 1/4 mile purely because it could put the power down, especially when tuned.

[Welshbeef]

Wills2 said:

Car and driver have tested the car.

0-60 2.8
0-100 6.6
0-130 10.9
0-150 15.9

Pretty impressive numbers the 0-100 mph is very impressive.

6.6 seconds to 100mph ... hells bells that destroys a Ferrari F40 and a Carrera GT and a McLaren F1


6.6 seconds Jesus Christ.

[BenGismo]

That is ludicrously fast for a saloon car!

BMW finally went 4WD with the M5 and ALL of them will be automatic,well at least for the first ones on sale...no manual option. Not only is it automatic but is an 8 speed torque converter. I suppose it adds to the incredible off the line performance.

At least they have added a 2WD mode - if you do want to hoon it sideways.

I still dont like that they have a 4.4L V8 and yet NEED to add digital added noise to the engine like the previous version. Still...an amazing car.

Edited by BenGismo on Thursday 15th February 21:31

[Digitalize]

BenGismo said:

I still dont like that they have a 4.4L V8 and yet NEED to add digital added noise to the engine like the previous version. Still...an amazing car.

Edited by BenGismo on Thursday 15th February 21:31

The standard exhaust sounds better than the F10, but the M Performance sounds better than probably any aftermarket exhaust for the F10, and is cheap/orderable/warranty safe. Anyone who isn't ordering one as an attempt at a Q car would be mad not to spec it, to the point where I think aftermarket companies might struggle until the yobs get hold of them.

[Welshbeef]

Digitalize said:

The standard exhaust sounds better than the F10, but the M Performance sounds better than probably any aftermarket exhaust for the F10, and is cheap/orderable/warranty safe. Anyone who isn't ordering one as an attempt at a Q car would be mad not to spec it, to the point where I think aftermarket companies might struggle until the yobs get hold of them.

So yakiprovik will have to make do with farting RS Audi’s 😉

[MrBarry123]

Wills2 said:

Car and driver have tested the car.

0-60 2.8
0-100 6.6
0-130 10.9
0-150 15.9

Pretty impressive numbers the 0-100 mph is very impressive.

[Welshbeef]

MrBarry123 said:

Wills2 said:

Car and driver have tested the car.

0-60 2.8
0-100 6.6
0-130 10.9
0-150 15.9

Pretty impressive numbers the 0-100 mph is very impressive.

http://www.autosnout.com/Cars-0-100mph-Times-List.php

So faster than
Ferrari Enzo
Pagani Zonda F
F1LM
Porsche GT2 RS
And countless others - this being a 4 door sedan nuts

[MrBarry123]

^^^^^

Yes, it's mad.

Cool though.

[Mr Whippy]

So almost entirely incapable of being fully used on a UK road ever, without doing something illegal or dangerous.

Great car. I bet it's a hoot for the entire 2.0 seconds you can enjoy WOT between 20-60mph

[Andy M]

Wills2 said:

Car and driver have tested the car.

0-60 2.8
0-100 6.6
0-130 10.9
0-150 15.9

Pretty impressive numbers the 0-100 mph is very impressive.

Do you have a link to the test?

Car and Driver tested the E63s at 0-60 in 3s and 0-100 in 7. Elsewhere 0-150mph is recorded at 16.6s

The E63s is slightly heavier than the new M5, but has a 9 speed gearbox and more powerful engine. Those M5 figures are hugely impressive if correct.

[Wills2]

Elysium said:

Crikey. I assumed the 0-60 would be one of those rolling start US tests, but the article says it was done with launch control.

I think the fastest I have seen for the f10 is 3.8 secs. This 4wd stuff is quite effectve!

That's a good point and comes from their 1/4 mile drag strip times where a roll out is part of the start procedure, they have the time it takes the front tyre to roll out of the stage beam, worth .3 of a second.

If we add that in the it's 6.9 to 100mph which is still mighty, I'm unsure how they factor in roll out if their not at a drag strip and whether a Vbox can replicate it but many US sites use it in their calcs.

Edited by Wills2 on Friday 16th February 10:18

[Joscal]

Completely wasted on UK roads IMHO. I've had quite a few M5's and truthfully my F10 was too quick as it is.

If I lived in Germany or somewhere without speed cameras I'd have one in a heartbeat.

Dosen't take away from the fact that the figures are remarkable though.

[Wills2]

Andy M said:

Wills2 said:

Car and driver have tested the car.

0-60 2.8
0-100 6.6
0-130 10.9
0-150 15.9

Pretty impressive numbers the 0-100 mph is very impressive.

Do you have a link to the test?

Car and Driver tested the E63s at 0-60 in 3s and 0-100 in 7. Elsewhere 0-150mph is recorded at 16.6s

The E63s is slightly heavier than the new M5, but has a 9 speed gearbox and more powerful engine. Those M5 figures are hugely impressive if correct.

It's on Car & Drivers website.

[Mr Whippy]

Joscal said:

Completely wasted on UK roads IMHO. I've had quite a few M5's and truthfully my F10 was too quick as it is.

BMW need to rethink their M range, or create a new range for 'driving pleasure'

Think cheap and moderately powerful, but set up for fun over performance.

The last car BMW made like that was the 320si.
If that'd have been a 6 potter for the noise/smoothness I'd have had one.


Imo BMW should have kept a smaller revvier 6 pot turbo vs going 4 pot turbo too... having to buy a 340bhp engine in a 140i to get a six is bonkers.


But really the 5 is now like a 90s 7er, and they didn't do m7 back then as it was dumb.
Just like this m5 is now just a bit dumb.

[Joscal]

Mr Whippy said:

BMW need to rethink their M range, or create a new range for 'driving pleasure'

Think cheap and moderately powerful, but set up for fun over performance.

The last car BMW made like that was the 320si.
If that'd have been a 6 potter for the noise/smoothness I'd have had one.


Imo BMW should have kept a smaller revvier 6 pot turbo vs going 4 pot turbo too... having to buy a 340bhp engine in a 140i to get a six is bonkers.


But really the 5 is now like a 90s 7er, and they didn't do m7 back then as it was dumb.
Just like this m5 is now just a bit dumb.

Funny you should say that I'm going back in time and looking at E46 M3's for that very reason! I had one when they first came out and I think they are the right size, naturally aspirated and not bonkers fast. Finding a good unmolested one close to me is proving pretty difficult though.

[Wills2]

Mr Whippy said:

BMW need to rethink their M range, or create a new range for 'driving pleasure'

Think cheap and moderately powerful, but set up for fun over performance.

The last car BMW made like that was the 320si.
If that'd have been a 6 potter for the noise/smoothness I'd have had one.


Imo BMW should have kept a smaller revvier 6 pot turbo vs going 4 pot turbo too... having to buy a 340bhp engine in a 140i to get a six is bonkers.


But really the 5 is now like a 90s 7er, and they didn't do m7 back then as it was dumb.
Just like this m5 is now just a bit dumb.

I've never understood this mind set, the M5 was always the heaviest and best equipped 5 series with more power than you needed nothing has changed in terms of that positioning.

M cars have never been cheap and moderately powerful it's not what the customers want.

[hertfordshire1]

Joscal said:

Completely wasted on UK roads IMHO. I've had quite a few M5's and truthfully my F10 was too quick as it is.

If I lived in Germany or somewhere without speed cameras I'd have one in a heartbeat.

Dosen't take away from the fact that the figures are remarkable though.

Agree with this. I owned F10 for 2.5 years and I always said it was too fast for our roads (I commute daily on a motorbike, so have a good sense of what speed is like)..

Had to drive it with such restraint - but even then most of the time I would been pinched driving it. Had it flat out at 169 (limited) multiple times in Germany and it often humbled many a car on the Nurburgring..

The new one round there would be a very rapid indeed.

I've gone sensible and bought a new X5M - bit more space and until its run in, have no idea how it compares to the F10 speed wise. Auto gearbox is an improvement round town at least!

[Joscal]

Wills2 said:

I've never understood this mind set, the M5 was always the heaviest and best equipped 5 series with more power than you needed nothing has changed in terms of that positioning.

M cars have never been cheap and moderately powerful it's not what the customers want.

I agree with this but it's the size that bothers me, I had a loan G30 when my F10 was in for a service and it was absolutely enormous! I know BMW have to do it to cater for the Chinese market particularly but personally I think it's too big for anything other than Mways. To be fair all cars are going the same way.