BMW M4 0% Deals are on!

BMW M4 0% Deals are on!

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JMBMWM5

2,283 posts

198 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
Sadly, pre-reg prices a good indication to what a new one will be worth as soon as you finish the handover.

Can't recall these dropping that much straightaway recently?
The M4 and M3 prices are going through the floor now, try Part exchanging or pricing at webuyanycar, be sitting down though.

Beato

256 posts

125 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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Just don’t look at the trade in!! I’ve man maths a new M3. 12% off, service pack thrown in and 0% for 48 months
Worked out better than buying a pre reg at 52k where 5.9, 6.9% apr was pretty common

I’ll worry about the residuals in 36 -48 months time and enjoy the car until then

nardogrey

3 posts

69 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Carwow is now 16% off and 0% APR is on until the end of September from what I can see. Is this as good as it gets, or do you think September could see even bigger discounts as the new 3 series comes out and the M4 looks older?

Jazzer

1,674 posts

204 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Why waste your money on these things?

They are over valued by some way, hence the brutal depreciation.

Rent one for peanuts if you must, but for God’s sake don’t buy outright.

An E92 M3 is much more of an M-car all day long.

nardogrey

3 posts

69 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Jazzer said:
Why waste your money on these things?

They are over valued by some way, hence the brutal depreciation.

Rent one for peanuts if you must, but for God’s sake don’t buy outright.

An E92 M3 is much more of an M-car all day long.
Not interested in keeping it, but considering effectively renting it on PCP until the end of the term.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Jazzer said:
Why waste your money on these things?

They are over valued by some way, hence the brutal depreciation.

Rent one for peanuts if you must, but for God’s sake don’t buy outright.

An E92 M3 is much more of an M-car all day long.
Because the E92 M3 is now an old car what newest 2012? So 6 years old nearly 7 at the newest - to plenty they wouldn’t consider owning a car over x years old (or rather their cash4car company car opt out scheme prevents it).

p1stonhead

25,541 posts

167 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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JMBMWM5 said:
he M4 and M3 prices are going through the floor now, try Part exchanging or pricing at webuyanycar, be sitting down though.
Into the high twenties on AUC now. A few more grand and I’m going for an M4 I think.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Tuesday 21st August 2018
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Jazzer said:
They are over valued by some way, hence the brutal depreciation.
I think there is something to this statement, albeit it is usually the way with M cars at the end of their life cycle.

BMW seem to push the list price up to obscene levels that simply can't be sustainable, and usually aren't. I just can't figure out why they do it?

An £80k M3/4? I mean c'mon! Is it simply that as they get less desirable (due to being old) BMW put the price up to stupid levels so dealers can knock off tens of thousands in order to make them look good value? (see also 640GC etc)

TobyTR

1,068 posts

146 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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A PHer on the F90 M5 Competition thread compared the E34 M5 price when new to today's and it was very similar

Doing the same, an E46 M3's new base price in 2003 was £39k... in today's money would be £57,990

I think that's okay considering how much car you're getting in an F80 M3/M4

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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TobyTR said:
A PHer on the F90 M5 Competition thread compared the E34 M5 price when new to today's and it was very similar

Doing the same, an E46 M3's new base price in 2003 was £39k... in today's money would be £57,990

I think that's okay considering how much car you're getting in an F80 M3/M4
On that same thread it was pointed out how salaries have not on average increased by the same amount.

Plus of course VAT has gone up from 17.5% to 20% - actually it went down to 15% VaT rate for a lot of the E92 M3 sale time

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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Jazzer said:
An E92 M3 is much more of an M-car all day long.
True. The E92 M3 brakes are awful compared to the current OE Brembo set up.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 22nd August 2018
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nickfrog said:
True. The E92 M3 brakes are awful compared to the current OE Brembo set up.
How much is that to change? Not much buy E92 M3 £10-13k £1-2k brake upgrade happy dayz

nickfrog

21,140 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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At that money you're looking at 100,000 miles plus so brakes may not even be your main issue. You're looking at £2,500 for an AP set up. But the point is a current M3/M4 can be as much a M as a V8.

Wills2

22,804 posts

175 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Jazzer said:
They are over valued by some way, hence the brutal depreciation.
I think there is something to this statement, albeit it is usually the way with M cars at the end of their life cycle.

BMW seem to push the list price up to obscene levels that simply can't be sustainable, and usually aren't. I just can't figure out why they do it?

An £80k M3/4? I mean c'mon! Is it simply that as they get less desirable (due to being old) BMW put the price up to stupid levels so dealers can knock off tens of thousands in order to make them look good value? (see also 640GC etc)
It's true at the end of the model cycle they go bananas, with special editions here, there and seemingly everywhere, massive discounts and 0%, however not a bad time to buy the right car at the right price.

I remember getting a new frozen silver edition e92 CP in 2012 during the last silly season for 45k against a 64k list, that was a good buy and a cracking car.









Wills2

22,804 posts

175 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Jazzer said:
Why waste your money on these things?

They are over valued by some way, hence the brutal depreciation.

Rent one for peanuts if you must, but for God’s sake don’t buy outright.

An E92 M3 is much more of an M-car all day long.
I can't agree with that, they couldn't give the e92 away back in 2008 I picked up a new one for 39k against 54k list same in 2012 again got one for 45k from 64k list, silly discounts at certain periods are the name of the M game nothing to do with the F series not being good cars.



Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Monday 27th August 2018
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Wills2 said:
I can't agree with that, they couldn't give the e92 away back in 2008 I picked up a new one for 39k against 54k list same in 2012 again got one for 45k from 64k list, silly discounts at certain periods are the name of the M game nothing to do with the F series not being good cars.

Honda couldn’t give away those Civic Type RS in 2008 either not countless other brands... something to do with the financial crash and consumers not spending

Wills2

22,804 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Wills2 said:
I can't agree with that, they couldn't give the e92 away back in 2008 I picked up a new one for 39k against 54k list same in 2012 again got one for 45k from 64k list, silly discounts at certain periods are the name of the M game nothing to do with the F series not being good cars.

Honda couldn’t give away those Civic Type RS in 2008 either not countless other brands... something to do with the financial crash and consumers not spending
That's the point, nothing to do with the car not being good just market conditions.

tgclowes

198 posts

116 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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Maybe it's because I'm an AMG fan but the M4 I drove didn't feel particularly special, maybe more like a quick 440i (not necessarily a bad thing) so the £60k+ price tag put me off, but after these 0% offers etc the market is flooded with M4s on circa 1,300 miles for around £45k which for me makes them much more appealing.

japseye007

117 posts

99 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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CAN someone explain the math to me.
Paying £500 a month for a £50k++ car with as little as £5k down? Is there a big balloon payment, 50% at the end of the 4/5 year period or what am I missing?

£500 x 12 months x 4 years = £24,000 at 0%
That’s well less than the balloon with some of these cars coming in at well above £50k.......

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Tuesday 23rd October 2018
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japseye007 said:
CAN someone explain the math to me.
Paying £500 a month for a £50k++ car with as little as £5k down? Is there a big balloon payment, 50% at the end of the 4/5 year period or what am I missing?

£500 x 12 months x 4 years = £24,000 at 0%
That’s well less than the balloon with some of these cars coming in at well above £50k.......
Do you have a link to that deal, just googling found me...
Model BMW M4 Coupe Competition Package & Seven-speed Double Clutch Transmission (M DCT) w/ DRIVELOGIC
Term of agreement 48 months
monthly payments of £599.00
On the road cash price* £66,150.00
Customer Deposit £5,999.00
Retailer Deposit Contribution £5,221.50
BMW Financial Services Deposit Contribution £1500.00
Total Deposit £11,802.39
Option to Purchase Fee £0.00
Optional Final Payment £25,236.31
Total Amount Payable £53,389.31
Amount of credit £60,888.50
Rate of Interest 0%
Representative APR 0%
Excess Mileage (Pence per mile) 16.498
Contract Mileage 32,000 (8,000 per annum)


So with contributions the deposit is well over £11k and the monthlies are £600.