Where's all the V10 M6s?
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Been looking forever for a nice low mileage, LCI, full leather one but seems to be the same cars for sale all the time and maybe 1 or 2 turning up here and there. There has been a couple of convertibles but only after a for a coupe.
This is lovely spec though but not in warranty as its over 60k and about 2k more than I want to spend, yes I'm tight arse lol
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I was in Swindon yesterday and spotted a white convertible plate M6 SXE and I'm sure it was for sale not that long ago. Quick google and looks like autotrader reviewed it.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3lYlse0JZk
Guess its a waiting game now the F10 M5/M6/GCs are dropping value maybe someone will chop theirs in for one......
Anyone thinking of selling?
This is lovely spec though but not in warranty as its over 60k and about 2k more than I want to spend, yes I'm tight arse lol
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
I was in Swindon yesterday and spotted a white convertible plate M6 SXE and I'm sure it was for sale not that long ago. Quick google and looks like autotrader reviewed it.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3lYlse0JZk
Guess its a waiting game now the F10 M5/M6/GCs are dropping value maybe someone will chop theirs in for one......
Anyone thinking of selling?
Well, for the RHD convertible only 420 were ever made across nearly five years. It’s almost nothing.
When looking for mine, I could reliably bank on only 5/7 being for sale on Autotrader at any one time. So in essence, they are just not common machines.
There’s always the odd one that’s been tarted up (inadvisably in my opinion, as they look just right stock), then there’s always someone who decided on a strange internal/external colour combo but my strongest advice would be if you find one, and everything checks out, then haggle at your peril. A great car will go. Majority of convertibles to my knowledge were black on black, like mine.
From what I can see of the one in the advert, it’s got everything I’d expect - they all came pretty much fully optioned but it’s doubly unusual to see the soft close feature present. I don’t think it adds anything to the value in the scheme of things but it’s nice to have and know you’re one of the few who has it. If it’s important to you it might be worth confirming on things like DAB, but then overall the car is so epic that these are unimportant fripperies. A car in great condition trumps the odd feature/option debate.
Many might feel different, but I’ve always thought the E64 a superb looking car - more than the coupe. And on top of that I also think the later F12/13 is fairly bland, shapeless and has lost that polarising character. Bangle’s design to me works and has stood the test of time well because the whole concept of the buttresses for the roof makes the “origami” sort of come together. Pictures don’t always do the car justice, but the view of the rear dead on really shows the car to be pretty squat and burly. Car design, particularly MB these days is now riffing off this look and adds to my view that years later it’s aged extremely well. And it’s in that line of thinking - if you enjoy the shape, and of course love the engine - then you realise that often when people do mental comparisons with things like DB9s and Continentals and realise what a ball ache they can be, and then also realise how antiquated those sorts of beasts are, then you can understand why good E64s in particular very rarely change hands.
There isn’t really a big choice selection of luxury, sporting GTs. It’s not a big market. But get close to the V10 M6 and the other (often pricier and more glamorous options) just don’t seem quite as bargainous or justifiable.
Epic and hugely desirable car, and if it’s me, knowing the market is small and niche, if it feels right then, at £22k, £25k, whatever, I wouldn’t blink. Money is important to everyone but on the right car I wouldn’t risk losing a purchase over the odd ‘kilo’ here and there.
Two things to check:
1. Turn on car and open roof to sort of halfway. Basically have the mechanism hanging up in the air. Jump out and have a look at the mechanical bits. Look for the drain holes. There’s two at the furthermost rear and another four under the rear sliding window. Just have a good look to see if these look like they’ve been regularly cleaned and not with either water all pooled up or tell tale ring marks. This advice goes for all E64s. Water spooling here can move beyond the rear structure and then drip down onto the comms and electrics that’s stored behind the complex carpet setup on the left hand side of the boot.
2. Lift up the boot carpet and reach down to where the battery is. Check for dampness.
Neither of these is the end of the world if the car works perfectly but is more to assess general maintenance and how well your potential purchase has been kept.
Epic, glorious cars. Best of luck.
When looking for mine, I could reliably bank on only 5/7 being for sale on Autotrader at any one time. So in essence, they are just not common machines.
There’s always the odd one that’s been tarted up (inadvisably in my opinion, as they look just right stock), then there’s always someone who decided on a strange internal/external colour combo but my strongest advice would be if you find one, and everything checks out, then haggle at your peril. A great car will go. Majority of convertibles to my knowledge were black on black, like mine.
From what I can see of the one in the advert, it’s got everything I’d expect - they all came pretty much fully optioned but it’s doubly unusual to see the soft close feature present. I don’t think it adds anything to the value in the scheme of things but it’s nice to have and know you’re one of the few who has it. If it’s important to you it might be worth confirming on things like DAB, but then overall the car is so epic that these are unimportant fripperies. A car in great condition trumps the odd feature/option debate.
Many might feel different, but I’ve always thought the E64 a superb looking car - more than the coupe. And on top of that I also think the later F12/13 is fairly bland, shapeless and has lost that polarising character. Bangle’s design to me works and has stood the test of time well because the whole concept of the buttresses for the roof makes the “origami” sort of come together. Pictures don’t always do the car justice, but the view of the rear dead on really shows the car to be pretty squat and burly. Car design, particularly MB these days is now riffing off this look and adds to my view that years later it’s aged extremely well. And it’s in that line of thinking - if you enjoy the shape, and of course love the engine - then you realise that often when people do mental comparisons with things like DB9s and Continentals and realise what a ball ache they can be, and then also realise how antiquated those sorts of beasts are, then you can understand why good E64s in particular very rarely change hands.
There isn’t really a big choice selection of luxury, sporting GTs. It’s not a big market. But get close to the V10 M6 and the other (often pricier and more glamorous options) just don’t seem quite as bargainous or justifiable.
Epic and hugely desirable car, and if it’s me, knowing the market is small and niche, if it feels right then, at £22k, £25k, whatever, I wouldn’t blink. Money is important to everyone but on the right car I wouldn’t risk losing a purchase over the odd ‘kilo’ here and there.
Two things to check:
1. Turn on car and open roof to sort of halfway. Basically have the mechanism hanging up in the air. Jump out and have a look at the mechanical bits. Look for the drain holes. There’s two at the furthermost rear and another four under the rear sliding window. Just have a good look to see if these look like they’ve been regularly cleaned and not with either water all pooled up or tell tale ring marks. This advice goes for all E64s. Water spooling here can move beyond the rear structure and then drip down onto the comms and electrics that’s stored behind the complex carpet setup on the left hand side of the boot.
2. Lift up the boot carpet and reach down to where the battery is. Check for dampness.
Neither of these is the end of the world if the car works perfectly but is more to assess general maintenance and how well your potential purchase has been kept.
Epic, glorious cars. Best of luck.
Yeah, low mileage examples are few and far between, even more so if you want an LCI version with most of the bugs resolved. These will rise in value I feel.
I'm still delighted every morning I walk over to get in mine; owning that engine is a special thing.
When it gets over 6,000 RPM is just goes ballistic, you really are hanging on! And the noise - jesus, the noise!
I'm still delighted every morning I walk over to get in mine; owning that engine is a special thing.
When it gets over 6,000 RPM is just goes ballistic, you really are hanging on! And the noise - jesus, the noise!
pvogue said:
This is lovely spec though but not in warranty as its over 60k and about 2k more than I want to spend, yes I'm tight arse lol
With all due respect, it sounds like these cars are probably not for you then...Even with a warranty, you could spend £2k pretty easily (e.g. big service and a set of tyres).
Shaoxter said:
With all due respect, it sounds like these cars are probably not for you then...
Even with a warranty, you could spend £2k pretty easily (e.g. big service and a set of tyres).
Im not fussed about servicing the car I pay what I have to with whatever decided to happen with wear and tear, just buying it im a tight arse. I want certain things which not all will have but just waiting game really. Even with a warranty, you could spend £2k pretty easily (e.g. big service and a set of tyres).
Shaoxter said:
pvogue said:
This is lovely spec though but not in warranty as its over 60k and about 2k more than I want to spend, yes I'm tight arse lol
With all due respect, it sounds like these cars are probably not for you then...Even with a warranty, you could spend £2k pretty easily (e.g. big service and a set of tyres).
For any make and model of car there will be horrors out there that mean only one decision can sensibly be taken - get rid. But for the most part if people just live with the expectation that an initially expensive car is an indulgence then they might live more happily.
I can’t be bothered with a warranty. But can see why many do. So no deep opinion on it.
My rough rule of thumb on a car that can throw big bills is.....understand your car, cultivate a sensible and honest relationship with a dealer and a specific relationship person (as for some things a dealer may be the most pragmatic way, and like any relationship, a good one is worth/can save a lot) and just keep say £10k in another rainy day account.
My old car old last week (I sold it in 2015). It was fully sorted and still under BMW AUC warranty and the owner still struggled to get rid of it. He practically ended up giving it away at the price he sold it for 
The mileage is irrelevent. Plenty of low-mileage cars have eaten their clutch/flywheels and had replacement throttle actuators and so on and low miles aren't a guarantee of anything really.
It's worth finding a mechanically sorted car owned by an enthusiast - who has spent proper money on it rather than avoided driving it to avoid big bills - rather than a rarely driven garage queen.
The mileage is irrelevent. Plenty of low-mileage cars have eaten their clutch/flywheels and had replacement throttle actuators and so on and low miles aren't a guarantee of anything really.
It's worth finding a mechanically sorted car owned by an enthusiast - who has spent proper money on it rather than avoided driving it to avoid big bills - rather than a rarely driven garage queen.
Few miles or not, my gearbox knows I change at 8k+
My wife loves to drive my car in auto, max gear shift speed - she can drive tbf - and the gearbox locks her in to changes at 7k and beyond.
I love the SMGIII - it requires thinking. That almost imperceptible lift as you change gear at full tilt.
Easily as engaging a skill as a manual box, maybe more so.
My wife loves to drive my car in auto, max gear shift speed - she can drive tbf - and the gearbox locks her in to changes at 7k and beyond.
I love the SMGIII - it requires thinking. That almost imperceptible lift as you change gear at full tilt.
Easily as engaging a skill as a manual box, maybe more so.
I had a good look around before picking mine and finding a decent lowish mileage LCI car was impossible. I ended up going for a 2006 Car with 20k miles, full service history, New clutch and the CIC. I’m utterly delighted with it. At some stage I may look out for a set of the front LED but aside from that it’s ideal, to my eye, externally.
I wouldn’t be terribly afraid of a really good pre-LCI Car.
I wouldn’t be terribly afraid of a really good pre-LCI Car.
Problem with getting an older model, non-LCI is it would bug me that I would have to upgrade to the LCI stuff afterwards. Bootlid, IDrive, Lights etc etc Rather buy a later spec one with most of what I want.
I don't want uber miles on the car as long as it has been looked after properly. It will be 2nd car anyway.
I don't want uber miles on the car as long as it has been looked after properly. It will be 2nd car anyway.
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