M2 Competition

M2 Competition

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topboss

352 posts

252 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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Good to see cars coming through. I ended up cancelling mine as got sick of the constant delays and lack of definitive build dates when ordering the optional brake kit.

They do look great.....may look at one next year sometime when builds are more flowing.

Davislove

2,295 posts

245 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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BMW are very crafty when it comes to headlights. It’s never clear what you’re actually getting, or not, as standard in my view.

Davislove

2,295 posts

245 months

Tuesday 6th November 2018
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mikeN54 said:
Looks great inside too, I've got orange stitching too.

Yep the "black" wheels aren't black they're a smoked laquer on bright alloy face.

Just right IMO

I'm gutted I didn't order adaptive lights, not for the function (which I hate) but the looks. It wasn't clear in the brochures or online that "standard LED lights" looked different to the "adaptive LED lights", the new hex DRL rings look great and I thought I'd get those, just without the adaptive function.

Thing is I've had 4 of the 5 items on the Plus Pack so it would only have been £400 to add adaptive lights too!

Oh well, live and learn...

Edited by mikeN54 on Monday 5th November 15:59
Could you post a picture of your M2C headlights so we can see the difference? It’s all a bit confusing!

mikeN54

607 posts

180 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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Quick google...This first review uses a car with standard LED headlights:

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/2019-bmw-m2...

This review uses one with adaptive led lights:

https://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/m2/21561/bmw-m2-competit...


JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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mikeN54 said:
JNW1 said:
mikeN54 said:
Also, the adaptive on the M2 are not ICON multi LED reflector units but a sort of more basic (lower cost) pivotable LED projector unit.
So are the ICON LED's on the M2C the so-called "dancing headlights" as fitted to the 3 and 4-series or are they just the turn from side to side arrangement like the adaptive Xenons on the original M2?
No the 3/4/6/7 series ICON Leds are multi reflector, multi LED lamp lights which allow more light manipulation and other fancy stuff (I have them on my M6)

But after looking carefully this last week, the M2 adaptives (not ICON adaptive I think, just "adaptive") are a more simple projector lamp which I don't think can have same variable light distribution (VLD) of the 3/4/6/7 ones.

Thats why icons went back to reflectors to get those functions when projectors had been the new thing for several years.
But when you go on the configurator the headlight upgrade option for the M2C is definitely for ICON LED's (hence my assumption they're the same as those fitted to the 3 and 4-series and are not just lights that swivel from side to side like the adaptive xenons on the original M2).

In point of fact I actually thought ICON LED's became an option on the M2 LCI introduced around September last year so does anyone have a car with those fitted and if so can you confirm what functionality you get with the upgrade?!

mikeN54

607 posts

180 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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Yes you're right, the config calls them ICONs, my error, but other material just calls them "adaptive".

Youtube clip of latest projector type adaptive LEDs with hex DRLs on LCI M2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voZv2NJF7FA

For sure they will have a variant of the no glare high beam (NGHB) function and variable beam spread (VLD), but it won't be the same as the 3/4/5/6/7 reflector units because the lights are not multi reflector type.

Most important to me is they look great though, I always turned off the adaptive function on my m6 which is why I didn't order it on the M2, my bad..

As someone who drives in dark rural areas all the time, none of these adaptive / auto high beam systems are quick enough and they just dazzle other drivers and then take an age to go back to high beam when the oncoming car has passed - almost dangerous. With them i'm constantly overriding them with the light stalk.

Edited by mikeN54 on Thursday 8th November 10:29

AW10

4,422 posts

248 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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Interesting comments - I've found the adaptive lights/high beam assist on my pre-LCI M2 to work very well.

Davislove

2,295 posts

245 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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mikeN54 said:
Quick google...This first review uses a car with standard LED headlights:

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/2019-bmw-m2...

This review uses one with adaptive led lights:

https://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/m2/21561/bmw-m2-competit...
thanks, not sure which I prefer tbh.

it’s annoying to have the option

Frimley111R

15,537 posts

233 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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Davislove said:
thanks, not sure which I prefer tbh.

it’s annoying to have the option
First world problems... hehe

mikeN54

607 posts

180 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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Yep, 1st world for sure.

£800 is a lot as a stand-alone option, but this is less than the cost was on 3/4/5/6/7 cars which suggests a lower spec product. (£2.5K on M6)

The standard ones are growing on me, which is just as well as I'm stuck with them!

At least they are full LED (main, dip, rings and indicator all LED) so no nasty incandescent lamp to spoil them as was on the Xenons with incandescent rings and indicator



Edited by mikeN54 on Thursday 8th November 13:25

JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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mikeN54 said:
£800 is a lot as a stand-alone option, but this is less than the cost was on 3/4/5/6/7 cars which suggests a lower spec product. (£2.5K on M6)
The ICON LED's on a 340i Touring are a £745 option (so very similar to the cost on the M2C) and they definitely include things like the selective beam function; they're not the same as the more basic adaptive LED's you get on something like an M140i....

mikeN54

607 posts

180 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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M140i headlight light options are same as 2 series inc M2C.

1 and 2 series adaptive are "basic" (your words wink) projector LEDs, whereas 3/4/5/6/7 are more advanced reflector versions.


anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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ICON on my M3 were about 1200 or so. They were also really good.

JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Thursday 8th November 2018
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mikeN54 said:
M140i headlight light options are same as 2 series inc M2C.

1 and 2 series adaptive are "basic" (your words wink) projector LEDs, whereas 3/4/5/6/7 are more advanced reflector versions.
Hmm, so on a 2-series you pay pretty much the same for the ICON LED option as you do on a 3-series but in return you get the more basic system found on the 1-series (and for which you'd pay less than £500 on an M140i?). Makes the option on the 2-series sound a bit over-priced if that's the case!

mikeN54

607 posts

180 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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The m140i seem to have the older DRL ring style but they are projector led lights same as new 2 series LCI adaptive lights but they have the bonus of the cool looking new DRLs..

maccas99

1,697 posts

187 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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I'm lost, don't we just need to see where we are going at night? biggrin

as7920

724 posts

200 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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The adaptive ICON LED on my M2 LCI are awesome. Only ever been flashed once. I have them turned on most of the time in the dark and let it decide.

Really useful for picking up those nasty potholes along the road edge.

The adaptive lights on my Pre-LCI frequently had other roads users flashing me.

Davislove

2,295 posts

245 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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enough of headlights, anyone seen this?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4rxo1WgDwI

The Competition sounds a bit quiet in comparison?

JNW1

7,711 posts

193 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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maccas99 said:
I'm lost, don't we just need to see where we are going at night? biggrin
Fair point, well made!! biggrin

mikeN54

607 posts

180 months

Friday 9th November 2018
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as7920 said:
The adaptive ICON LED on my M2 LCI are awesome. Only ever been flashed once. I have them turned on most of the time in the dark and let it decide.

Really useful for picking up those nasty potholes along the road edge.

The adaptive lights on my Pre-LCI frequently had other roads users flashing me.
They're all flawed / too slow as they have to wait for the oncoming car's lights to come into view of the sensor camera before they dip or move. Whereas "human" controlled lights dip before the oncoming car rounds the corner. I just can't bring myself to use them on my m6, just split second dazzling every car that approaches you.

You might only have been flashed once, but there'll be 99 people thinking "ouch tt just blinded me" wink


Edited by mikeN54 on Friday 9th November 21:22