F90 M5 Competition

F90 M5 Competition

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jm doc

2,776 posts

231 months

Friday 24th June 2022
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theboss said:
Stever said:
I don't really get this, you don't have to be thrashing a car all the time to enjoy it? As has been said it's not really that easy in the South East but owning an M car is aspirational, it's for roadtrips on less crowded roads (visit Shropshire or Herefordshire for instance), and weekends away as well as for daily local runs but there are other reasons why owning an M car is enjoyable isn't there? It's a quality item, and I like quality.

I enjoy the M6 most days it's a very nice place to be with efficient aircon, heated or cooled and ventilated seats, good hifi and still sounds good if you put the windows down while you're squirting it around. You can play with all the major settings the settings to adjust the car at different times to different moods and if you have a long journey to do even 4 up it munches the miles away effortlessly.

Obviously it doesn't apply to everyone but some cars make you feel good just owning or driving them, how great would it feel just to reverse an F40 out of your garage! How far and when you push the loud pedal is in your control, you can just as easily get nicked in a Yaris. As for the soul less electric stuff yuck you can keep that, they're not really for people who enjoy driving hehe

I bought my sons old 2006 mini cooper s, enjoy driving that too and TBH I seem to drive that faster than any of the cars but I wouldn't want to do a reasonable length journey in it
It's hard to disagree with any of that, and living in the Welsh Marches has certainly shaped my perspective on long term M5 ownership (F10 in my case) against a rising tide of "you can't use that properly in the UK" sentiment. I've used it properly for the last 150k miles and can't bring myself to part with it.

It seems a bit sad really, to have offloaded all the daily chores to company expensed EVs. The intention is to just the M5 just for touring and fun, but I don't seem to do much of it. I have a big driving trip lined up for August which will take me all over central Europe and the Balkans, so the M5 will get its legs stretched then at least.
And these are the trips you will always remember, epic fun, I'm doing similar later this year through the French alps and into Germany, back through Holland and Belgium.

Imagine the nightmare of trying to do that in an EV? Bonkers.


Boosted_8

97 posts

36 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Stever said:
I don't really get this, you don't have to be thrashing a car all the time to enjoy it? As has been said it's not really that easy in the South East but owning an M car is aspirational, it's for roadtrips on less crowded roads (visit Shropshire or Herefordshire for instance), and weekends away as well as for daily local runs but there are other reasons why owning an M car is enjoyable isn't there? It's a quality item, and I like quality.

I enjoy the M6 most days it's a very nice place to be with efficient aircon, heated or cooled and ventilated seats, good hifi and still sounds good if you put the windows down while you're squirting it around. You can play with all the major settings the settings to adjust the car at different times to different moods and if you have a long journey to do even 4 up it munches the miles away effortlessly.

Obviously it doesn't apply to everyone but some cars make you feel good just owning or driving them, how great would it feel just to reverse an F40 out of your garage! How far and when you push the loud pedal is in your control, you can just as easily get nicked in a Yaris. As for the soul less electric stuff yuck you can keep that, they're not really for people who enjoy driving hehe

I bought my sons old 2006 mini cooper s, enjoy driving that too and TBH I seem to drive that faster than any of the cars but I wouldn't want to do a reasonable length journey in it
Another angle of opinion on 'why own a fast car': I personally find it less stressful having 600hp than 200hp. Why? you can quickly get yourself out of trouble . e.g. If something unexpected happens you can find or make a gap you otherwise would not be able to.

beanoir78

352 posts

100 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Boosted_8 said:
Stever said:
I don't really get this, you don't have to be thrashing a car all the time to enjoy it? As has been said it's not really that easy in the South East but owning an M car is aspirational, it's for roadtrips on less crowded roads (visit Shropshire or Herefordshire for instance), and weekends away as well as for daily local runs but there are other reasons why owning an M car is enjoyable isn't there? It's a quality item, and I like quality.

I enjoy the M6 most days it's a very nice place to be with efficient aircon, heated or cooled and ventilated seats, good hifi and still sounds good if you put the windows down while you're squirting it around. You can play with all the major settings the settings to adjust the car at different times to different moods and if you have a long journey to do even 4 up it munches the miles away effortlessly.

Obviously it doesn't apply to everyone but some cars make you feel good just owning or driving them, how great would it feel just to reverse an F40 out of your garage! How far and when you push the loud pedal is in your control, you can just as easily get nicked in a Yaris. As for the soul less electric stuff yuck you can keep that, they're not really for people who enjoy driving hehe

I bought my sons old 2006 mini cooper s, enjoy driving that too and TBH I seem to drive that faster than any of the cars but I wouldn't want to do a reasonable length journey in it
Do you live in a Robert Ludlum novel?



Another angle of opinion on 'why own a fast car': I personally find it less stressful having 600hp than 200hp. Why? you can quickly get yourself out of trouble . e.g. If something unexpected happens you can find or make a gap you otherwise would not be able to.

Stever

1,524 posts

248 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Sorry no idea what that means never read his novels?

Nice 'garage' by the waythumbup

Jonny TVR

4,533 posts

280 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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I've had a standard F90 M5 previously .. a 2018 model. It looks like the Taycan I have on order is going to be another year to wait, possibly more and I'm completely fed up with my daily Range Rover. I think I'm going to buy a 2019/20 F90 M5 competition. The spec is pretty amazing on these as standard but any recommendations on must haves is appreciated. I'm hoping there shouldn't be too much depreciation for a year but who knows in this strange volatile world. Will I notice a big difference between a standard M5 and the comp?

Anyone know this one? what do you think?
https://www.harwoods.uk.com/aston-martin/used-cars...

Also with teh exception of aesthetics is the facelift model worth the extra money?

Edited by Jonny TVR on Thursday 30th June 14:37

billyali86

31 posts

103 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Jonny TVR said:
I've had a standard F90 M5 previously .. a 2018 model. It looks like the Taycan I have on order is going to be another year to wait, possibly more and I'm completely fed up with my daily Range Rover. I think I'm going to buy a 2019/20 F90 M5 competition. The spec is pretty amazing on these as standard but any recommendations on must haves is appreciated. I'm hoping there shouldn't be too much depreciation for a year but who knows in this strange volatile world. Will I notice a big difference between a standard M5 and the comp?

Anyone know this one? what do you think?
https://www.harwoods.uk.com/aston-martin/used-cars...

Also with teh exception of aesthetics is the facelift model worth the extra money?

Edited by Jonny TVR on Thursday 30th June 14:37
I recently sold my Pre Lci comp and 4 weeks later bought an Lci. I had another car in between and had a number of issues. It reminded me that the M5 really is one of the best all rounders you can buy. As you said the m5 comes pretty well loaded with spec out the factory. That car linked is missing the premium pack which has the following:

Soft close doors - I was only person who used this function like you are supposed to, everyone else slammed the doors
Seat ventilation front - pointless feature, the seats are not cooled so if its a warm day its just warm air being blown onto your back
Ambient air - an air freshener will do the same thing, without the need of a cartridge refill at £30 a pop
Ceramic finish for controls - I quite liked the ceramic finish, however it would leave fingerprints all over the i drive controller
Massage function - nice to have but I think i used them twice in almost 2 years of having the

My new car does not have this pack and I do not really miss, I have explained exactly why above. Comfort pack is nice to have for the steering wheel heating.


I loved my pre LCI (it was modded with a map and downpipe so sounded amazing). The LCI cars are alot quieter, even as stock. The lci just looks fresher IMO. The i drive software is updated with a bigger screen. The car rides nice due to the dampers being from the M8, gearbox is also quicker. The cheapest I have seen a used LCI at is around £66k. It depends on you, are these changes worth £6k for you? I went for the LCI as I felt the front of Pre lci was starting to look a bit dated and I plan to keep this car for a while

Pics of both attached




Edited by billyali86 on Thursday 30th June 16:37

jm doc

2,776 posts

231 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Jonny TVR said:
I've had a standard F90 M5 previously .. a 2018 model. It looks like the Taycan I have on order is going to be another year to wait, possibly more and I'm completely fed up with my daily Range Rover. I think I'm going to buy a 2019/20 F90 M5 competition. The spec is pretty amazing on these as standard but any recommendations on must haves is appreciated. I'm hoping there shouldn't be too much depreciation for a year but who knows in this strange volatile world. Will I notice a big difference between a standard M5 and the comp?

Anyone know this one? what do you think?
https://www.harwoods.uk.com/aston-martin/used-cars...

Also with teh exception of aesthetics is the facelift model worth the extra money?

Edited by Jonny TVR on Thursday 30th June 14:37
I've had both, pre-LCI and LCI is my current car. I would say there is a significant difference and not just aesthetics, dynamically it is better in several areas as well, the transmission particularly is brilliant. That said, it's all relative and the pre-LCI is still an amazing car, but make sure it's a comp version.

Marty Funkhouser

5,426 posts

180 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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So a couple of poorly timed speeding tickets have put the brakes on the M5 I had planned to buy - apologies again to the PHer!

I've been offered a zoom speed awareness course for one of them so I am now looking again.

Seen the one below but he's asking crazy money for a private sale...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206086...


Phil.

4,755 posts

249 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Jonny TVR said:
I've had a standard F90 M5 previously .. a 2018 model. It looks like the Taycan I have on order is going to be another year to wait, possibly more and I'm completely fed up with my daily Range Rover. I think I'm going to buy a 2019/20 F90 M5 competition. The spec is pretty amazing on these as standard but any recommendations on must haves is appreciated. I'm hoping there shouldn't be too much depreciation for a year but who knows in this strange volatile world. Will I notice a big difference between a standard M5 and the comp?

Anyone know this one? what do you think?
https://www.harwoods.uk.com/aston-martin/used-cars...

Also with teh exception of aesthetics is the facelift model worth the extra money?

Edited by Jonny TVR on Thursday 30th June 14:37
I’ve owned both. If the you don’t want to spend more then the pre-LCI will still be fun and it pop and bangs more in Sport+

The above example has a heated steering wheel so has the Comfort Pack I believe, which is the minimum spec I would accept. What would put me off is the Pirelli tyres, the Michelin’s are far better especially in the wet.

Terminator X

14,921 posts

203 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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Jonny TVR said:
I've had a standard F90 M5 previously .. a 2018 model. It looks like the Taycan I have on order is going to be another year to wait, possibly more and I'm completely fed up with my daily Range Rover. I think I'm going to buy a 2019/20 F90 M5 competition. The spec is pretty amazing on these as standard but any recommendations on must haves is appreciated. I'm hoping there shouldn't be too much depreciation for a year but who knows in this strange volatile world. Will I notice a big difference between a standard M5 and the comp?

Anyone know this one? what do you think?
https://www.harwoods.uk.com/aston-martin/used-cars...

Also with teh exception of aesthetics is the facelift model worth the extra money?

Edited by Jonny TVR on Thursday 30th June 14:37
Get one pre OPF as the ones with the OPF are almost silent imho.

TX.

JMBMWM5

2,283 posts

197 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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Marty Funkhouser said:
So a couple of poorly timed speeding tickets have put the brakes on the M5 I had planned to buy - apologies again to the PHer!

I've been offered a zoom speed awareness course for one of them so I am now looking again.

Seen the one below but he's asking crazy money for a private sale...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202206086...
Price looks ok to me.

Jonny TVR

4,533 posts

280 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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Thank you everyone for giving your time to reply to my search questions. Pistonheads can be such a great source of information thank you.

Next week I'm gong to start searching .. I have been reminded that we are moving house in the next week biggrin but I need a distraction right.

I'll keep you posted.

Stever

1,524 posts

248 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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Good luck in your search Jonny.

Moving to find a bigger garage?? smile

Jonny TVR

4,533 posts

280 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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Stever said:
Good luck in your search Jonny.

Moving to find a bigger garage?? smile
No the opposite! reducing to a double but got two four post lifts being installed when we move in so should take 4 if my measurements are correct smilerolleyes The M5 would live outside in the elements

Marty Funkhouser

5,426 posts

180 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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JMBMWM5 said:
Price looks ok to me.
Seems steep for a private sale. BMW dealers are doing these late 50's from what I can see.

Jonny TVR

4,533 posts

280 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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Marty Funkhouser said:
Seems steep for a private sale. BMW dealers are doing these late 50's from what I can see.
I think sometimes private sellers think that they can get dealer money particularly in the current climate

Jonny TVR

4,533 posts

280 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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billyali86 said:


Edited by billyali86 on Thursday 30th June 16:37
That really looks good in that colour too

jm doc

2,776 posts

231 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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Marty Funkhouser said:
JMBMWM5 said:
Price looks ok to me.
Seems steep for a private sale. BMW dealers are doing these late 50's from what I can see.
Agree, would need to be signficantly cheaper than a BMW AUC to tempt me into a private buy and I don't think this is

Marty Funkhouser

5,426 posts

180 months

Friday 1st July 2022
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jm doc said:
Agree, would need to be signficantly cheaper than a BMW AUC to tempt me into a private buy and I don't think this is
Its been hanging around on Autotrader for the last 10 weeks - thats a pretty fair indication its overpriced (unless its a dog which it doesn't appear to be).

Going to see what he says to £55k next week.

inonefly

10 posts

33 months

Saturday 2nd July 2022
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Hello,
I'm in the search of a F90 M5 (which will be my first M car) to replace my GLC63s coupe, hopefully in the next few weeks. Need some help deciding M5 vs M5C within my budget of £60k - looking at the current BMW approved cars, could be low mileage M5 (10-20k) or higher mileage M5C (20-30k mostly).

ACC is a must-have as I like taking my car for road trips, which also limits my options - very surprised this option is not popular and I see more basic M5 with ACC than M5C. Sunroof I'm giving up as I only see 1 M5 with it so far - this maybe not a concern for most but I will take the car for long trips (ie, plan to drive to Lyon-Nice in Aug) so wife and daughter were very against a M5, daughter actually asked why can't we get a Tesla rolleyes The comfort package is common so should be easy to locate one, premium package I like the message seat but not sure how useful it is ?

I'm eyeing one 3 basics M5's, not the best colour combo for me but probably can live with (will head down to a local dealer tomorrow to look at one, full black interior is what I am unsure of). There's plenty M5C but none with ACC - well there's one with 37k on the clock but I don't go for a car with that high mileage.

I'm in two minds atm, just get one of the M5 before my August trip to France and have some fun, or hold out and maybe rise budget say 65k for a M5C?