E92 M3. Is EDC a must have?
Discussion
As per the title really. I'm looking at an M3 Comp as a daily/occasional track car, and found a 60k, 2010 example without EDC. There's also a 2011, 86k with EDC up for the same price. I'm swaying toward the lower mile one, as the only difference is the lack of EDC. As I've never had a car with adaptive dampers, am I going to miss/need them either on the road, or track?
I bought an e92 a few weeks ago, no EDC, no regrets. If you like the car buy it, suspension can always be upgraded in future (including coilovers with DCC) but I consider it non essential. The standard stuff is very planted and great on a run, it's definitely comes a bit unstuck on poor condition B roads but i'm not convinced EDC cars would be much better, my f10 M5 had a similar system and I found the difference fairly limited.
I've had E92s both with and without.
For me it's very much a nice-to-have rather than essential. I wouldn't dismiss the right spec car (in terms of colour, options etc) simply because of the lack of EDC. The E92 is supple enough not to need an optional comfort mode, and Sport didn't really make that much difference to handling imho.
Personally, LCI or Individual Audio would be much more attractive than EDC.
The exception to the above is that, in a Comp Pack car with EDC, cranking everything up to Sports+ does make an E92 feel pretty hardcore - in a good way.
For me it's very much a nice-to-have rather than essential. I wouldn't dismiss the right spec car (in terms of colour, options etc) simply because of the lack of EDC. The E92 is supple enough not to need an optional comfort mode, and Sport didn't really make that much difference to handling imho.
Personally, LCI or Individual Audio would be much more attractive than EDC.
The exception to the above is that, in a Comp Pack car with EDC, cranking everything up to Sports+ does make an E92 feel pretty hardcore - in a good way.
As has been said a comp pack came with EDC as part of the package.
I spent a couple of years looking for a LCI manual car with EDC, in the summer I finally bought one without, can’t say I’ve really thought about it since. Standard passives are plenty supple enough plus seem to control it once pushing on.
I spent a couple of years looking for a LCI manual car with EDC, in the summer I finally bought one without, can’t say I’ve really thought about it since. Standard passives are plenty supple enough plus seem to control it once pushing on.
For me every available optional extra is a must I hate blanks were switches should be .. OCD, however I would say edc is a must I wouldn’t buy a car without. There are plenty available with it .
A daily / track car is never a good idea . Buy a track car and a daily drive consumables on the m3 on track are expensive allso if you drive hard .
A daily / track car is never a good idea . Buy a track car and a daily drive consumables on the m3 on track are expensive allso if you drive hard .
Edited by Weekendrebuild on Friday 13th December 11:05
KPB1973 said:
Blanchimont said:
To close this off. I pick up a genuine 2011 Comp pack (with EDC!) on Monday, providing my car sells 
Can not wait!
Congrats! Is the Meg making way for it? Can not wait!It'll be interesting to hear how you get on longer term. As mentioned in the French Bred forum, I went the other way and then back again (with a couple of porkers between the meg and the m3's).
Both have their strengths and weaknesses but the engines are incomparable. The s65 is a lovely thing in combo with the DCT.
Does your new motor have any other upgrades? The exhaust mod is mandatory!
Both have their strengths and weaknesses but the engines are incomparable. The s65 is a lovely thing in combo with the DCT.
Does your new motor have any other upgrades? The exhaust mod is mandatory!
KPB1973 said:
It'll be interesting to hear how you get on longer term. As mentioned in the French Bred forum, I went the other way and then back again (with a couple of porkers between the meg and the m3's).
Both have their strengths and weaknesses but the engines are incomparable. The s65 is a lovely thing in combo with the DCT.
Does your new motor have any other upgrades? The exhaust mod is mandatory!
I think it already has it. It's also had some coding done too. Beep on lock, digi speedo and things like instant MPG, and DRL's on too which doesn't look to be standard.Both have their strengths and weaknesses but the engines are incomparable. The s65 is a lovely thing in combo with the DCT.
Does your new motor have any other upgrades? The exhaust mod is mandatory!
Blanchimont said:
As per the title really. I'm looking at an M3 Comp as a daily/occasional track car, and found a 60k, 2010 example without EDC. There's also a 2011, 86k with EDC up for the same price. I'm swaying toward the lower mile one, as the only difference is the lack of EDC. As I've never had a car with adaptive dampers, am I going to miss/need them either on the road, or track?
Hi Blanchimont, I know it's been 2years since you were considering the 2010 non-EDC M3 Comp mentioned above, but I wonderered if you can remember any further details about that car. I'm investigating a potentially cloned vehicle and a non-EDC M3 Comp Pack is key to cracking this case. For reference, 13 early E92 M3 Comp Pack's came without EDC due to a mistake at the factory.
Questions it would be great if you can help with in any small way include;-
- Where abouts in the country was the car located when advertised?
- Was it exactly 60k miles at the time, or was it a little less / a little more?
- A long shot, I know, but if by chance you have any pictures of the car from your communications with the seller, particularly interior pictures or pictures of the service book that you'd be willing to share, that could be key to cracking this particular investigation
Many thanks in advance for any help you're able to offer.
PS: I would have PM'd, but as I've only just signed up to PH, am not allowed to send PM's, yet.
The softest setting of EDC made the m3 one of the most comfortable cars I've ever driven. More so than the 530d and Q7. Less so than the GLS, but of course, far more composed.
The only time it came out of comfort mode and into the middle setting (never the hard setting) was if I wanted to drive the car more spiritedly, and not because I wanted to stiffen the car up, but because I found there was an axle tramp type of sensation when pulling away hard. But this only happened in the soft setting (mine was an early non-comp manual).
Fwiw, I'd never consider a non-edc car after riding in one. We had to come to an almost complete stop everytime we had to climb one of those supermarket style speed bumps, and still get thrown all over the place.
Both cars were on the 19" wheels and Michelin super sports.
The only time it came out of comfort mode and into the middle setting (never the hard setting) was if I wanted to drive the car more spiritedly, and not because I wanted to stiffen the car up, but because I found there was an axle tramp type of sensation when pulling away hard. But this only happened in the soft setting (mine was an early non-comp manual).
Fwiw, I'd never consider a non-edc car after riding in one. We had to come to an almost complete stop everytime we had to climb one of those supermarket style speed bumps, and still get thrown all over the place.
Both cars were on the 19" wheels and Michelin super sports.
Ice_blue_tvr said:
The softest setting of EDC made the m3 one of the most comfortable cars I've ever driven. More so than the 530d and Q7. Less so than the GLS, but of course, far more composed.
The only time it came out of comfort mode and into the middle setting (never the hard setting) was if I wanted to drive the car more spiritedly, and not because I wanted to stiffen the car up, but because I found there was an axle tramp type of sensation when pulling away hard. But this only happened in the soft setting (mine was an early non-comp manual).
Fwiw, I'd never consider a non-edc car after riding in one. We had to come to an almost complete stop everytime we had to climb one of those supermarket style speed bumps, and still get thrown all over the place.
Both cars were on the 19" wheels and Michelin super sports.
My E92 M3 with EDC was the best riding performance car that I've had too. Like you I never had it in the hardest setting either. Comfort was lovely, and I put it in the middle setting if I was pushing on. The only time it came out of comfort mode and into the middle setting (never the hard setting) was if I wanted to drive the car more spiritedly, and not because I wanted to stiffen the car up, but because I found there was an axle tramp type of sensation when pulling away hard. But this only happened in the soft setting (mine was an early non-comp manual).
Fwiw, I'd never consider a non-edc car after riding in one. We had to come to an almost complete stop everytime we had to climb one of those supermarket style speed bumps, and still get thrown all over the place.
Both cars were on the 19" wheels and Michelin super sports.
I'm so disappointed with the ride in the F82 M4 that I have now in comparison. Even in comfort mode it is still miles too hard for me. It is a shame how much BMW ruined the M4 in that regard I reckon, because the E92 M3 with EDC was just so right for sure.
KPB1973 said:
I've had E92s both with and without.
For me it's very much a nice-to-have rather than essential. I wouldn't dismiss the right spec car (in terms of colour, options etc) simply because of the lack of EDC. The E92 is supple enough not to need an optional comfort mode, and Sport didn't really make that much difference to handling imho.
Personally, LCI or Individual Audio would be much more attractive than EDC.
The exception to the above is that, in a Comp Pack car with EDC, cranking everything up to Sports+ does make an E92 feel pretty hardcore - in a good way.
I agree with this comments 100%. Try and get an LCI / stereo upgrade if you can. For me it's very much a nice-to-have rather than essential. I wouldn't dismiss the right spec car (in terms of colour, options etc) simply because of the lack of EDC. The E92 is supple enough not to need an optional comfort mode, and Sport didn't really make that much difference to handling imho.
Personally, LCI or Individual Audio would be much more attractive than EDC.
The exception to the above is that, in a Comp Pack car with EDC, cranking everything up to Sports+ does make an E92 feel pretty hardcore - in a good way.
cerb4.5lee said:
My E92 M3 with EDC was the best riding performance car that I've had too. Like you I never had it in the hardest setting either. Comfort was lovely, and I put it in the middle setting if I was pushing on.
I'm so disappointed with the ride in the F82 M4 that I have now in comparison. Even in comfort mode it is still miles too hard for me. It is a shame how much BMW ruined the M4 in that regard I reckon, because the E92 M3 with EDC was just so right for sure.
That's sad to hear. I think time has not been kind to the f8x generation. Tail happy, less comfy and a bit of a farty exhaust note I'm so disappointed with the ride in the F82 M4 that I have now in comparison. Even in comfort mode it is still miles too hard for me. It is a shame how much BMW ruined the M4 in that regard I reckon, because the E92 M3 with EDC was just so right for sure.
still a fantastic all rounder though? cerb4.5lee said:
My E92 M3 with EDC was the best riding performance car that I've had too. Like you I never had it in the hardest setting either. Comfort was lovely, and I put it in the middle setting if I was pushing on.
I'm so disappointed with the ride in the F82 M4 that I have now in comparison. Even in comfort mode it is still miles too hard for me. It is a shame how much BMW ruined the M4 in that regard I reckon, because the E92 M3 with EDC was just so right for sure.
I recall going on a dealer launch driving day when the F80 came out Lee, I had a e92 comp at the time, the F80 felt like a go cart in comparison (in a good way) but as you say much firmer it was also massively more direct with real front end bite into a corner.I'm so disappointed with the ride in the F82 M4 that I have now in comparison. Even in comfort mode it is still miles too hard for me. It is a shame how much BMW ruined the M4 in that regard I reckon, because the E92 M3 with EDC was just so right for sure.
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